Agree to disagree. I haven't experienced such a negative physical reaction to a cinematic score since "Commando" back in the 80's. That insufferable throat singing and obnoxious wailing was truly jarring and also did not fit the scenes at all i.m.o. It was as if they tried to over compensate for the fact nothing was happening on screen by assaulting my eardrums. I normally consider Zimmer one of the absolute best there is, so there's no bias here.
Agree on Zimmer being one of the bests. Obnoxious wailing? Which moment/track are you talking about?
It’s a film, set on an Alien planet- the music should and *does* reflect that beautifully. If you’re talking about the moment we meet the Sardaukar in Pt. 1 with the throat singing, that sounds absolutely amazing to me, and really punches you in the moment. Great stuff.
“Kiss the Ring” is one of, if not Hans’ best (it’s a tie for me between it and “Time” from Inception.)
If the score didn’t work for you, that’s fine. But to say it’s used just to distract you from nothing happening during the film then you were obviously checked out watching the movie.
I said the visuals and the designs were BORING, not that the execution wasn't good. The CG in Dune is reference quality for sure. It's just that there's nothing interesting to look at while the characters are standing around telling us what's what.
Nothing interesting to look at, really?
Really? I don’t believe you.
Now you're really swinging... Furiosa has serviceable CG and the story, characters and direction more than make up for what isn't as perfect/seamless looking. I'll take an engaging, character driven action movie over an exposition heavy, stilted political drama any day of the week. To each his own...
I’m the one that’s “swinging”? Let’s take a look at this barely passable CGI. It’s definitely not “serviceable” unless that’s another word for lazy. Feel free to compare these shots to the ones I’ve posted above.
It’s about on par with a video game. If you want to ignore that fact and enjoy the film otherwise (like we all have) it’s fine. But it’s downright bad, borderline terrible at times. Especially with the implementation of Miller’s cheap frame manipulation and the terrible orange/burnt filter to give it “style”, if that’s what you’d call it.
Furiosa has a great story, and I really enjoyed it. Dune also has a great story, with impactful visual effects, that suck you into the screen rather than out like in Furiosa. If the visual effects take you out of what’s happening on screen and make your brain think “that doesn’t look natural or real” it impacts the entire film. It brings you back to reality. This happens very often in Furiosa, not once in Dune.
It's likely got alot more to do with money than lazyness. Also, I'd argue It's harder to CG the scenes in Furiosa than in Dune. Everything in Dune is masked by a borderline monochrome pallet. All the color, moving parts and dynamic action in Furiosa is alot trickier to pull off convincingly.
Now you’re the one swinging.
Furiosa and FR almost have the exact same budget. Miller could have dropped 30 minutes of the fan service for the runtime and focused that budget on the action sequences like FR. He didn’t do that, he got lazy.
They shot the majority of Dune Pt. 2 on location, in the Abu Dhabi desert, and other real life locations with real actors and sets. The Citadel scenes in Furiosa was shot at the disney backlot with green screens.
I’ll give you the CGI was probably more time consuming in Furiosa, as almost every scene has some sort of CGI in it. But the effects were definitely not harder. The Sandworm ride in Dune Pt. 2 took ages to do. And it was done as real as possible, with practical effects and only a minute use of CGI to enhance the moment. It took two months for them to film a sequence that’s only three minutes. Thats how blockbusters should be filmed.
In Furiosa, you get a closeup of Dementus sitting in a CGI vehicle, with a green screen background, with people off screen shaking his seat to make it look like he’s driving.
Well, they obviously were for you... The two major reasons Dune was fairly successful (It did struggle to make a profit due to its excessive budget) was: 1) Villeneuve's ongoing streak of highly acclaimed movies, including his surprisingly impressive sequel to Blade Runner. 2) There was a substantial fanbase who'd been waiting forever for a semi-decent adaptation of Dune. The anticipation and support for this movie was absolutely massive.
Mad Max is, all things considered, still a pretty niche franchise that already produced two genre masterpieces. Noone was really expecting Furiosa to rival Fury Road. Also, lots of fans were disapointed how the focus was taken away from the main character. This movie was always going to be a tougher sell. Now the word of mouth is spreading but it might be a little too late to save its cinamatic run. My guess is it will eventually get its due on streaming and physical though...
Dune Pt. 2 did not struggle.
190 Million dollar budget and passed 700 Million at the BO. It was being called a box office savior and a return to form in hollywood. Finally a blockbuster that was worth seeing akin to LOTR.
Bladerunner did not help it, GA’s are not familiar with most directors off the top of their heads besides the Lucas’s and the Spielberg’s.
BR2049 was a box office bomb, it flopped HARD. No one saw it. It didn’t help Dune at all.
Calling the Dune fanbase “Substantial” is also an over exaggeration. I know this, because i’ve loved Dune forever and have been in that fanbase for a VERY long time. I read the first 3 books before I was even in high school. No one cared or talked about Dune until the new movies came along.
The books were practically forgotten, there was one terrible film that was atrocious and a season of TV on the ScyFi channel that no one watched. The “fanbase” you’re alluding to was when the book became critically acclaimed in the late 60’s. And back then a 900 page novel was unheard of, not very many people actually read the whole thing or event attempted to.
MM fanbase was massive in comparison.
Enjoy Furiosa all you want, it’s an awesome ride and a great time. Packed full of entertaining sequences and fun performances. But it is no where near the quality of Dune.
) But still, great stuff.
I knew that too. 
