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You know what’s really pissing me off about them going forward without Snyder is the fact that they are still making everything look like Snyder is making it especially Black Adam and The Rock should be ashamed of that.

Fine dump Snyder but then also dumb his aesthetics stop ripping it off!
Indeed. Watch the Black Adam trailers and tell me that doesn't look like Snyder's work. The 3h The Batman runtime was insulting after what they cut from BvS/JL.

It was embarrassing for The Rock to have to answer a bunch of questions about Superman. They totally could have put it to bed before the Con, but let the hype build and ultimately crush their presentation. No Keaton? No Momoa? While Marvel had the cast of their next four IPs at the show. Incredible domination on display. Feige rock bottomed DC.
 
Keaton would have been cool if part of the Flash film was a brief jaunt into Burton's Batman universe, but making him the Batman of the DCEU moving forward is a moronic idea. What an absolute **** show the DCEU is.
And there's speculation this isn't even the same Keaton from the Burtonverse!! This is like bringing Tobey and Andrew in but not using their past films as additional context, rewarding the fans who were invested in those movies. Just such a weird decision from all angles.

And now this Affleck on Aquaman 2 news...I just don't know what they're doing at this point lol.
 
And there's speculation this isn't even the same Keaton from the Burtonverse!! This is like bringing Tobey and Andrew in but not using their past films as additional context, rewarding the fans who were invested in those movies. Just such a weird decision from all angles.

And now this Affleck on Aquaman 2 news...I just don't know what they're doing at this point lol.
There's no way any of us can know what they're doing at this point, because it's clear WB don't even have any idea what they're doing.
 
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Still crazy we’ve had three Batmen and three Jokers in the span of a few years…
 
To be fair, both Keaton and Affleck appearing in the same movie is part of establishing the nature of the multiverse, and the travel that is possible between infinite parallel timelines/universes that Barry discovers via the speed force.

The Flash was originally going to rewrite the main continuity to eliminate Superman (Zod kills him as a baby) and replace him with Kara Zor El, kill off Affleck’s Batman and replace him with Keaton, and introduce Batgirl mentored by 70 y/o Bruce Wayne a la Batman Beyond. My guess is that Barry finds himself in an alternate universe that perhaps Batfleck has already traveled to somehow? Because all the other elements suggest that he is not in his original home timeline/universe. Like Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz, “I don’t think we’re in Kansas anymore, Toto.”

Anyway, that was the old WB regime’s plan. Then… and this is a surmise… apparently once Discovery took over they were like, hell no, we’re keeping the Snyderverse open, not killing it. That’s when all the films‘ releases (either completed or in post) got delayed and they scheduled reshoots. That was because Zaslav wants Cavill front and center again, as well as the DC trinity, and he wants to hire a new DC “czar” to figure out how to resume the Snyderverse in a way that storytelling more resembles the MCU. So there were reshoots to the Flash and instead Ben Affleck’s Batman is sent to the Snyderverse‘s Knightmare future.

They can’t undo the entire Flash script/plot. They’ve had to revise it.

Again, the original plan (now scrapped) was that it would rewrite and replace the Snyderverse. But evidently the universe the Flash establishes will now be a new parallel universe that features Batgirl, Supergirl, 70 y/o mentor Batman—and I suspect Blue Beetle as well, and other new superheroes to follow eventually. And that’s okay within a multiverse design.

But I predict that this new Supergirl/Batgirl/Keaton Batman/Blue Beetle universe which was formerly going to be the main continuity is now going to be a pocket universe.

Similarly, what Geoff Johns had planned for the Rock 's Black Adam to take over the main continuity is now also going to be alternate pocket Shazam-Verse universe.

And the “shock and awe” is going to be the return of Ben Affleck to complete the Snyderverse saga, plus Henry Cavill in solo Superman films, and a trinity film with Cavill, Affleck, and Gadot as well.

Please note the day after Alan Horn is hired we see Jason Mamoa leak that Ben is back in his film. That is not a coincidence!
 
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Well, after the depressingly poor SDCC showing it's nice to see some interesting news. Affleck is a great Bruce Wayne/Batman, they can't go wrong giving him more screen time. Whether this means Cavill will be back too, and there will be more Affleck/Cavill/Gadot remains to be seen.
Whatever, as I said before, MoS/BvS/ZSJL is good enough for me. Thrown in Aquaman and the first Wonder Woman movie, and I can say I am in a good place as far as DC heroes and the Snyderverse go. I can move on, but if there's some more quality stuff with that cast coming, I'm happy as well.
 
Well, after the depressingly poor SDCC showing it's nice to see some interesting news. Affleck is a great Bruce Wayne/Batman, they can't go wrong giving him more screen time. Whether this means Cavill will be back too, and there will be more Affleck/Cavill/Gadot remains to be seen.
Whatever, as I said before, MoS/BvS/ZSJL is good enough for me. Thrown in Aquaman and the first Wonder Woman movie, and I can say I am in a good place as far as DC heroes and the Snyderverse go. I can move on, but if there's some more quality stuff with that cast coming, I'm happy as well.

I think it is possible for everyone to have their cake and eat it too. WBD can do this! Easily, in fact.

Main continuity can remain Snyderverse in it's sweeping, grand, operatic, mythic style, with Snyder delivering all of his amazing visuals. Darkseid obtains the antilife equation, mind-controls Superman, conquers and decimates earth, etc. It'll give us all the Knightmare vision stuff that's been teased thus far in visions and dreams. Bruce assembles what's left of a resistance among the superheroes, metahumans, and supervillains. They succeed with a heist to steal from Darkseid the mother box that Cyborg and his father had kept. Barry sends Bruce back to the Batcave to save Lois and kill Darkside (in so doing sacrificing his own life) to restore the timeline.

Then in JL 3 the forces of Apokolips return to make a final all-out assault on earth to attempt to get the antilife equation back. Presumably led by Desaad but also including Granny Goodness, Kailbak, the Furies, Mantis, and other Apokoliptian villains. This results in something like "Avengers assemble" for earth as an entire planet. Led by a fully realized Superman, Amazons, Atlanteans, superheroes, super villains, all join forces to repel the invaders in a loving extravaganza and celebration of fantastical superhero genre tropes. Hopefully at least Orion and a few other gods from New Genesis travels to earth to help out as well.

But anyway, comic book-y as all get out. And gloriously so. This is basically the payoff, the full reconstruction, after the ”grimdark” deconstruction of MoS and BvS.

For the final chapter, JL 3, they will bring Black Adam, Shazam and the Shazam family, Supergirl, Batgirl, Blue Beetle, JL Dark superheroes, etc., from their pocket universes to the main continuity. I think Del Toro's JL Dark will also be a pocket universe of this multiverse, and we'll see them appear in JL 3 as well. That will be the ace up their sleeve in that all out war. It's going to be a lot like Flashpoint Paradox and Final Crisis, but very much it's own take by Snyder and the others among that brain trust for the new management such as DeLuca, Alan Horn, and whoever is hired by Zaslav to be the DC "czar."

Reeves' Batman trilogy and the Joker sequel will remain independent of all this however. Those will remain "black label" outside of what I'm describing. Those two directors have already contractually established that they want creative freedom to tell their own tales independent of what is going on in the DCEU.

Anyway, until that final act in JL 3, we'll see Aquaman 3, WW 3, Cavill's MoS 2, Batfleck's solo film (from earlier in his career, told in flashback is my guess), a DC trinity film, and JL 2. And in the alternate pocket universes, i.e., the Black Adam/Shazam-verse, the Batgirl/Supergirl/Blue Beetle-verse, and the JL Dark-verse we'll see development of those superheroes and villains, and their stories.

No one can really legitimately complain about this because everyone gets what they want and it all culminates in a grand finale that ties it all together. It's everyone having their cake and eating it too.
 
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Worse than that. Idiots didn’t even announce new the Batman plans or anything. I can’t believe such idiots run that studio. Is it DC ? Is it WB? Or are they both at fault. It seems like I’m the early 00s they were trying to gain steam with so many shows and movies but they always felt scared to gamble on there most popular characters. So afraid to take a chance with the JL.

I don’t know who is at fault . But it’s mind boggling that marvel decided they wanted to take the chance and made so many characters popular and DC didn’t get the incentive to maybe take a chance of there characters.

I don’t like snyders films at all but he still opened the door for the wider dc cast.
 
There's no way any of us can know what they're doing at this point, because it's clear WB don't even have any idea what they're doing.

WB had a plan—and it sucked. Kill off Superman (wtf?!!!) and replace Batfleck with 70 y/o Keaton (please). Or keep Superman in the Shazam-verse but make Black Adam the apex superhero.

That’s not what David Zaslav of Discovery says he wants.

When WBD took over they delayed the releases and started reshoots. WBD is still waiting to hire the new “czar” of the DC IPs. Once that person is in place we’ll learn what’s really going on.
 
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