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....and this one doesn't :

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Well, the big bags under the eye's make him look like a drug addict, the long stretched out mouth looks a bit funny, as strange as it sounds, I think the nose is too big, especially at the top, and the large amount of forehead doesn't help.
Also, the billow out hair on the side makes it all look like a wig and that the head is hollow behind it all.

Just saying.......
 
Well, the big bags under the eye's make him look like a drug addict, the long stretched out mouth looks a bit funny, as strange as it sounds, I think the nose is too big, especially at the top, and the large amount of forehead doesn't help.
Also, the billow out hair on the side makes it all look like a wig and that the head is hollow behind it all.

Just saying.......

Not 100% Ian surely, but I do still like it. :)
 
Okay, first off, with the 'head trauma', that's just blatant rudeness. There's no need for that.
Next, nothing i say is going to change the fact that the SSW GTG doesn't look like Ian mcKellen, but the new one does? So just because you say it looks like Ian McKellen, it does? :slap I refer you to the post straight after your long ranting one, that agrees with me, and there are a few others if you care to look for them. It's mostly going to be positive feedback because we're on a Sideshow forum, on other forums the reaction has been pretty much the same as mine.
Yes, i bash some of Sideshow's products, but i also adore others. With you it just always seems to be bashing, and rather childish and unrelated comments.


As for the photos you use, i notice when you're trying to win an argument you find the WORST photos you can of something you want to bash, and for something you want other people to see as better you use a large, high-definition professional photo. Yeah, that's subtle.

I'm quite happy to keep this dialogue going Woodsy, but only if you're going to be mature about it and talk to me rationally. I'm far used to past aggresive forum members to bother about having needless arguments over statues with you. Anyone remember Smaug's Fury?

OK, my mistake there are two of you. I can't speak for the reaction on the S&F forum, but it certainly wouldn't surprise me if the reaction over there is negative....too often it is where SS is concerned. Here however, and on StatueForum the reaction to the likeness has been very favourable. It's certainly not on par with the reaction to Trevor's PF likeness, but it has been very well received nonetheless. My point being, while maybe a few of you don't see Ian McKellan in this sculpt the vast majority of us do. So just because you say SS's doesn't look like Ian McKellan, it doesn't? :slap My mistake, I guess we're all wrong then.

I am a bit confused though....the main premise of my previous post was twofold. Firstly, to dispute your ridiculous claim that the SSW Gandalf looks like Sir Ian, while the SS maquette doesn't. Now here's your quote from four days ago :
And this GTG statue does not look like Ian Mckellen, the Weta one does, so i don't get why you want to suddenly out of nowhere bash the Weta one.

And here's your quote from today :
nothing i say is going to change the fact that the SSW GTG doesn't look like Ian mcKellen, but the new one does?

So which is it? Does the SSW version look like Sir Ian? Or does it not look like Sir Ian, something which I've said all along and which you are now apparently agreeing with. And how can you accuse me of bashing the SSW Gandalf when you just said the very same thing yourself? :cuckoo:

My second point was to expose the blatant hypocrisy of your Weta bashing comment. Seriously, what kind of a person takes one shot after another at SS's Gandalf maquette.....like you have, and then starts to cry the second something is said about the SSW version. And if considering the likeness of the SSW Gandalf to be sub-par is your idea of Weta bashing, then I'd hate to see what you'ld be saying if I'd used your terms of "awful", "laughable", "too cartoony" and "a BIG fail" to describe it :lol

As for the photo comment, at least when I'm trying to make a point I take the time and effort to try and back it up. What's been preventing you from doing the same? What's been preventing you from getting off your a** and posting your own pic's to prove me wrong? I'm pretty sure you have access to a digital camera, and I know you have internet access so by all means find or take some pictures of your own. Seems pretty simple to me, take some pic's of yours and post them here. I'd do the same, but mine looks just like the one in the photo I posted so what's the point? As for the high res photo, that's the only one I could find that showed a good close-up, and to disprove the stupidity of your comment answer this....How is a high res close-up of Gandalf going to make him look better? If anything, it's going to amplify any errors or flaws in the sculpt which is pretty well the last thing I'd want to do if I was attempting to make Gandalf appear better than he really is. :slap But if this makes you feel any better [and it won't], here you go:

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And for you amusement I hope you don't mind me posting another shot of the "cartoony" SS version.....just so you can have another laugh:

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Now FE I don't have the slightest problem discussing statues with you either, but I do need some clarification. By talking rationally do you mean not changing you mind from one post to the next...'cause it's really hard to talk rationally with someone who does that. And by talking rationally does that mean eliminating all the hypocrisy....'cause its very difficult to talk rationally with someone who says one thing and does another [like criticizing someone for bashing your statue, but not having the slightest problem trashing theirs].

And by maturity, are we talking about the kind of maturity where some people feel the need to come into a SS thread, on a SS forum, and make fun of/trash a SS statue.....a statue they were never going to buy in the first place. The kind of maturity where some just won't allow those who are excited about this new maquette to enjoy it without being bombarded by bad one-liners. I wonder how mature Jeff Yaeger thinks you are after reading your "Marvel super hero" and "I am what I am" show tune comments.....:wink1: See paragraph above for a refresher on hypocrisy. :lecture

While were talking about conditions, I'd like to make a few of my own. Namely, just stop already with the hypocrisy and the lies. The hard, cold, fact is no one's been turning Gandalf "bashing" into an artform around here....except you. And enough with the "you're always bashing Weta" remarks. It's a lie and we both know it. Some Weta statues are great, some are terrible, and most are somewhere in between....and I have always given Weta credit where credit is due. If you have to lie or misrepresent someone to make a point, then don't bother. I'm not interested in playing those games. :nono
 
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I like FrodoEyes and I like Woodsy. It hurts my heart to see you two fighting like this. Like a small child in a dysfunctional family, forever traumatized by the site of two parents arguing. I'm running away because somehow I feel that all of this is my fault. :monkey2
 
The weta one looks like Santa Claus

Maybe a little bit, but what I though more then anything was that mine doesn't exactly look like that, tho more from a paint point of view then a sculpt.

However, taking both profile images, I think that actually shows just how good the Weta one is and from comparing just those two at least, you can see Ian and Gandalf much more then with the SS one.

But for me, what the side image of the SS one does, is just show how bad all the hair is. It's just so thick and 'blobby' with no real detail at all. The Weta one suffers much the same problem in the main hair, however, the beard on that one is way better and how it should all have been detailed. So sorry, but that does make it look somewhat more 'cartoony' in general, which isn't helped by the smooth clothes either, compared to all the texture in the Weta one. I mean just look at the two pics you posted woodsy, SS has an all smooth shoulders, etc compared to the Weta one.

I think that's what drawing the 'cartoony' comment.
I wish I had better pics of my Weta Gandalf, but he was the very first statue/collectible that I ever got and frankly the pics are rather poor. Maybe it's time I took some new ones.
 
I like FrodoEyes and I like Woodsy. It hurts my heart to see you two fighting like this. Like a small child in a dysfunctional family, forever traumatized by the site of two parents arguing. I'm running away because somehow I feel that all of this is my fault. :monkey2

:rotfl From now on we'll try and agrue when you're away at school.
 
Maybe a little bit, but what I though more then anything was that mine doesn't exactly look like that, tho more from a paint point of view then a sculpt.

However, taking both profile images, I think that actually shows just how good the Weta one is and from comparing just those two at least, you can see Ian and Gandalf much more then with the SS one.

But for me, what the side image of the SS one does, is just show how bad all the hair is. It's just so thick and 'blobby' with no real detail at all. The Weta one suffers much the same problem in the main hair, however, the beard on that one is way better and how it should all have been detailed. So sorry, but that does make it look somewhat more 'cartoony' in general, which isn't helped by the smooth clothes either, compared to all the texture in the Weta one. I mean just look at the two pics you posted woodsy, SS has an all smooth shoulders, etc compared to the Weta one.

I think that's what drawing the 'cartoony' comment.
I wish I had better pics of my Weta Gandalf, but he was the very first statue/collectible that I ever got and frankly the pics are rather poor. Maybe it's time I took some new ones.

True enough, but that's just a capture from the video. The shoulders in that image don't even appear to be in focus, and they certainly don't look that smooth in those high res photos....photo's which I am very leery to post at the moment for fear of trying to make Gandalf look too good.....:monkey3 : :lol
 
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