General NBA Discussion

[DinoDB1975]

Yeah, I really can't argue with that logic. I only referred to the '07 Cavs in a beat down manner because they were never really in that series and got swept.

Oh, I know, I didn't think you were inferring anything else. Just adding my $.02.

^Yeah, I read about Rooks. Sad when players I watched pass away. Rooks, Anthony Mason...wow.

 

[Darkseed]

^Yeah, I read about Rooks. Sad when players I watched pass away. Rooks, Anthony Mason...wow.

Especially when their younger then me....

 

[jstep13]

I recall the disagreements I had with members when the trade was proposed and I wanted Wiggins....Love was a top player in the league yada yada yada....he hasn't sucked but he hasn't worked out as planned where into his second season talks of trades have resurfaced

haha I'm pretty sure that was you and I who had that debate. I still believe that was the best move possible. While Wiggins is a fine player, his defense is terrible (maybe worse than Love) and it would take a few years for him to develop into an all-around player. Also keep in mind that having LeBron on the same team would've likely stunted his development. With him being part of that young posse in Minn,, he pretty much has free reign to do as he pleases. He would not have any such freedom in CLE so don't assume that the Wiggins in Minn is the Wiggins you would've had in CLE. If CLE wanted to win now, I would've made that trade ten times over...

Kevin Love is out for tonight.

OMG, let the LeBron excuses roll now...

 

[sarakawa]

I think CLE will prob play better without Love tonight. I know I called a CLE win in game 2 but I honestly think they will steal one here at home. I also think GS will take game 4 and most likely finish the series at home in game 5.

 

[Darkseed]

haha I'm pretty sure that was you and I who had that debate. I still believe that was the best move possible. While Wiggins is a fine player, his defense is terrible (maybe worse than Love) and it would take a few years for him to develop into an all-around player. Also keep in mind that having LeBron on the same team would've likely stunted his development. With him being part of that young posse in Minn,, he pretty much has free reign to do as he pleases. He would not have any such freedom in CLE so don't assume that the Wiggins in Minn is the Wiggins you would've had in CLE. If CLE wanted to win now, I would've made that trade ten times over...

I don't recall actual people just the conversation. I know their motivation was "win now" because of James. Thanks in part to my boy, we won games but no championship looms on the horizon and Love could be traded. As a fan a few years longer wasnt going to hurt anything. Wiggins and Irving as the core (future) looked good to me. In hindsight I still stand by my not wanting Love....James could be the 4, Wiggins the 3 and our match ups this series would have been better at least.

 

[WWEJedi]

Dude...stop talking about Jordan, you don't know ****

Everything I said about Jordan is true though. They are facts.

 

[sarakawa]

Everything I said about Jordan is true though. They are facts.

So, just to be clear, have you gone back and watched jordan's games? his finals appearances at least?

 

[Darth Madden]

Screw all of you... Spud Web was the GOAT. That guy could dunk and he was like 2 feet tall.

 

[filip629]

Give it a break. Accept the facts that Jordan needed Pippen and couldn't get out of the first round without him. In case you missed it, I had Jordan ranked #3 on my list, could be #2 or even at #4, but never #1, nope.

Oh, by the way... LeBron came back from 0-2 hole against the Pistons in probably the greatest single player playoff performance ever in game 5 where he scored 25 straight, 48 total, made the game winning shot, and actually won the game..... unlike Jordan with his meaningless overrated 63 point game loss

You still keep harping on the same thing with Pip. Pip has publicly acknowledged on numerous occasions that he owes everything he is as a basketball player to MJ. MJ was great as soon as he put on a uniform. Pip became a HOFer and an NBA Champ after MJ scorched and humiliated him (and others) in practice and lead the Bulls to greatness. Where was Pip against the Pistons in game 7 when they lost the East? Complaining about a migraine. Who jumped into Xavier McDaniel's face when Pip was getting slapped around like a little girl? That's right MJ. Who refused to go into a playoff game with 1.8 seconds left in the game and his team trailing? Who blew a 15 point 4th quarter lead in the WCF to the Lakers? That's right, Pip did. If Pip has no problem saying he is who he is because of MJ, I'll take his word for it. Especially since I watched all those Bulls games and know it's the truth. All the garbage you spew won't change that. Lastly, that era of Celtics and Pistons teams are full of great HOF players. Not only that, but some of the top 50 best players of all time. Those teams crush any LeBron lead Cavs teams including your oh so precious '07 Cavs Finals teams.

As for 0-2 playoff holes...I never said MJ's Bulls were the only team to overcome that deficit. I said they were the first. Know what else that series win over the Knicks lead to? The Larry O'Brien Trophy. That's right! A CHAMPIONSHIP! Did LeBron win a ring in '07 that I don't know about? To my best recollection, he's only got the 2 that were bought for him in Miami. You'd think a guy who gave us "probably the greatest single player playoff performance ever" could scrape out at least one win in the '07 Finals. I guess it was too much to ask.

Dude...stop talking about Jordan, you don't know ****

Here, I'm gonna leave you with this in case you missed it the first time. It saves me the trouble of typing it.

 

[filip629]

So, just to be clear, have you gone back and watched jordan's games? his finals appearances at least?

Of course not. He's too busy spouting ignorant garbage here.

 

[WWEJedi]

So, just to be clear, have you gone back and watched jordan's games? his finals appearances at least?

Of course. I watched Kerr and Paxson win him titles. I also watched Jordan ball hog and make some great shots of his own to win titles. I also watched how he had a HOF coach and a big three of his own.

I forgot how great some of your memories must be. 20-25 years ago and you all remember every little detail of your boyhood crush magical performances in the finals. How many of you still have posters of Jordan in your bedrooms?

You still keep harping on the same thing with Pip. Pip has publicly acknowledged on numerous occasions that he owes everything he is as a basketball player to MJ. MJ was great as soon as he put on a uniform. Pip became a HOFer and an NBA Champ after MJ scorched and humiliated him (and others) in practice and lead the Bulls to greatness. Where was Pip against the Pistons in game 7 when they lost the East? Complaining about a migraine. Who jumped into Xavier McDaniel's face when Pip was getting slapped around like a little girl? That's right MJ. Who refused to go into a playoff game with 1.8 seconds left in the game and his team trailing? Who blew a 15 point 4th quarter lead in the WCF to the Lakers? That's right, Pip did. If Pip has no problem saying he is who he is because of MJ, I'll take his word for it. Especially since I watched all those Bulls games and know it's the truth. All the garbage you spew won't change that. Lastly, that era of Celtics and Pistons teams are full of great HOF players. Not only that, but some of the top 50 best players of all time. Those teams crush any LeBron lead Cavs teams including your oh so precious '07 Cavs Finals teams.

As for 0-2 playoff holes...I never said MJ's Bulls were the only team to overcome that deficit. I said they were the first. Know what else that series win over the Knicks lead to? The Larry O'Brien Trophy. That's right! A CHAMPIONSHIP! Did LeBron win a ring in '07 that I don't know about? To my best recollection, he's only got the 2 that were bought for him in Miami. You'd think a guy who gave us "probably the greatest single player playoff performance ever" could scrape out at least one win in the '07 Finals. I guess it was too much to ask.

Here, I'm gonna leave you with this in case you missed it the first time. It saves me the trouble of typing it.

I'm sure you think those 63 points were the best ever, Jordan couldn't even scrape together a first round playoff win without Pippen

Of course not. He's too busy spouting ignorant garbage here.

Jordan isn't the GOAT. It is not ignorant garbage. I just don't understand how a man who needed to rely on two prayer shots from Kerr and Paxson to win rings is the GOAT. Jordan should be 4-2 in the finals. Actually, without Pippen, he wouldn't even have rings. Then Jordan couldn't take the Wizards to the playoffs in the "weak east."

 

[mikedanger]

Oh man I can't wait for someone with more F's to give than I currently have for this conversation to relate your Jordan comments to Brady, lol

 

[WWEJedi]

Oh man I can't wait for someone with more F's to give than I currently have for this conversation to relate your Jordan comments to Brady, lol

Brady is the GOAT though, so you can't relate my Jordan comments. Plus, I never have gone to these lengths to defend Brady.... nor will I.

 

[mikedanger]

I just can't understand how a man who needed 2 prayer field goals from Adam Vinatieri to win rings is the GOAT.

I love you, bro...I really do appreciate how you get everybody all fired up with your trolling, but you left yourself exposed there. Gotta be more careful.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

I just can't understand how a man who needed 2 prayer field goals from Adam Vinatieri to win rings is the GOAT.

I love you, bro...I really do appreciate how you get everybody all fired up with your trolling, but you left yourself exposed there. Gotta be more careful.

You forgot the INT on the 1 inch line

 

[jstep13]

Jordan isn't the GOAT. It is not ignorant garbage. I just don't understand how a man who needed to rely on two prayer shots from Kerr and Paxson to win rings is the GOAT. Jordan should be 4-2 in the finals. Actually, without Pippen, he wouldn't even have rings. Then Jordan couldn't take the Wizards to the playoffs in the "weak east."

Why do you keep calling Kerr/Paxton prayer shots? I know you weren't around to witness them but in both games they were game 6's. If the Bulls had lost, they would've had game 7's at home. It was nice they made those shots but is there any doubt MJ would've taken care of business at home? It wasn't like Lebron's situation where he was shriveled up and ready to commit harakiri after continuously air bailling shot after shot in the waning moments of game 6 until Ray Allen bailed him out.

And if you really want to compare apples and oranges, how many times has MJ missed the playoffs? How many times has LeBron missed the playoffs? What's your excuse there? And the only teams MJ lost to where the HOF Pistons, HOF Celtics and a sh*** Bucks team (in MJ's rookie year). I know you're trolling in between your rocket surgery classes you claim to be attending at your Ivy League school but at least try and come up with a valid argument if you want to be taken seriously.

 

[jstep13]

I just can't understand how a man who needed 2 prayer field goals from Adam Vinatieri to win rings is the GOAT.

I love you, bro...I really do appreciate how you get everybody all fired up with your trolling, but you left yourself exposed there. Gotta be more careful.

Raise your hand if anyone can name a QB, other than Brady, who would allow his team to lose to a .500 team in the Super Bowl after going 16-0? What a gutless CHOKER.

GOAT? Pfft...More like goat.

 

[mikedanger]

I agree with jstep...today's performance has been lackluster and if we are being honest, it was a touch lazy. Take the night off, kid. Shake this one off and live to troll another day. Do whatever you kids do these days...vape? I don't know. Just unwind and recommit for tomorrow, OK?

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

Why do you keep calling Kerr/Paxton prayer shots? I know you weren't around to witness them but in both games they were game 6's. If the Bulls had lost, they would've had game 7's at home. It was nice they made those shots but is there any doubt MJ would've taken care of business at home? It wasn't like Lebron's situation where he was shriveled up and ready to commit harakiri after continuously air bailling shot after shot in the waning moments of game 6 until Ray Allen bailed him out.

And if you really want to compare apples and oranges, how many times has MJ missed the playoffs? How many times has LeBron missed the playoffs? What's your excuse there? And the only teams MJ lost to where the HOF Pistons, HOF Celtics and a sh*** Bucks team (in MJ's rookie year). I know you're trolling in between your rocket surgery classes you claim to be attending at your Ivy League school but at least try and come up with a valid argument if you want to be taken seriously.

I wouldn't trust LeBron to take the kill shot

 

[user 1190]

Raise your hand if anyone can name a QB, other than Brady, who would allow his team to lose to a .500 team in the Super Bowl after going 16-0? What a gutless CHOKER.

GOAT? Pfft...More like goat.

Oh no you didn't