Have Movie Audiences Always Been So Fickle?

[pturtle]

Very true. I think it's sort of a peer pressure thing, or they think it's expected of them and "cool" to instantly act negatively toward any new announcement without any real knowledge of it. Being happy or excited is a sign of weakness or something.

One thing I find hilarious is when you call out an obvious troll for repeatedly bashing a film in it's own thread, they sometimes result to the "Well, you're being equally as bad by being optimistic about the film!" argument like that's even remotely the same thing.

I can't understand why some people are fixated on trying to ruin the excitement some people have for a movie, video game, figure or anything else, and think it's okay because they're "real" fans.


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[crows]

it goes both ways.

If you happen to hate Predator or Terminator or some classic like that, and you really don't like it, sometimes you cannot say anything because then everyone will get in your case and insult you.
Just like everyone hates on MOS, everyone loves Avengers, and if you happen to say avengers was bad, you are going to get the same kind of angry reactions as if you said MOS was good.

the internet is creating a lot of hive mentality. everyone loves Gravity so all of the sudden people will agree with them to go with the flow.
But everyone hates Amazing Spiderman 2 so then you get some people saying it was worse than Batman and Robin. (when they haven't even seen it yet)

Like I said angry comments go both ways, supporting something or hating on something. I don't think is the fact that people now hate everything and everyone but the fact that everything is extremes now. You either really love something or you really really hate something. there is no middle ground anymore. either you defend something or trash it. That's exactly what I've noticed online. completely supporting something or completely trashing it.

 

[ironwez20]

People love to ***** and think it's cool to do so. I go in looking to be entertained and work from there. If people agree that's great and if not that's ok as well.

Exactly. people like to whine and maon about movies before they even come out. Its stupid and unnecessary. Nothing is ever perfect. Somthimes you have to live with that and whining about wont change a thing. You go to the movies to have fun not to sit there and find faults in every scene what kind of fun is that. Save that for the second viewing or when you buy it on dvd.

 

[ironwez20]

^^^This!!!

I don’t know if people are just that upset these days, or if they find it to be cool, or if it’s a generational thing, but complaining and whining as soon as a movie title is announced seems to be the standard these days. As soon as a trailer releases for any movie, I’m almost sure as soon as I check discussions boards , the majority are already complaining about the most nonsensical reasons. I’m starting to think these same people believe films are being made to purposely make them/public upset, instead of actually entertained.

I also dont like this new trend of if it aint marvel its gonna suck. Xmen looks good, spiderman wasnt great but it was better than both thor movies and im3 for me. Everytime an announcement is made on a non marvel movie that is within the the comic or geek genre people lose there **** that it looks stupid and its nothing but a cash grab. WTf do you think disney is doing releasing every marvel character movie a year?

 

[karamazov80]

On the other hand, times change, sensibilities change, and honestly, all movies do not age well. A great Super Hero movie 20 years ago may not be great today because in some aspects, not just technology, the bar has been raised. Writing, acting, directing, and the way the characer is portrayed and the story grounded to reflect the times will make it less appealing to other generations.

With comic movies, I think there is some truth to this, just because the only ones making serious dramatic comic movies prior to the 2000s were Burton (who obviously took a stylized, even surrealistic approach), and the guys behind Blade. But if you're talking about something more general, like action movies, then I don't think much has changed apart from the technical stuff. A well told action movie in the '60s or '70s (say, Bullitt, First Blood, or the Man with No Name series) would work as a well told action movie today. For the most part, I think the really good movies are the ones that transcend the era in which they are made, and there are always films that will do that. A movie that was well written, directed and acted in the 1940s--like Hitchcock's stuff, Citizen Kane, Double Indemnity, or the Maltese Falcon--still more than hold up.

 

[rushmore223]

With comic movies, I think there is some truth to this, just because the only ones making serious dramatic comic movies prior to the 2000s were Burton (who obviously took a stylized, even surrealistic approach), and the guys behind Blade. But if you're talking about something more general, like action movies, then I don't think much has changed apart from the technical stuff. A well told action movie in the '60s or '70s (say, Bullitt, First Blood, or the Man with No Name series) would work as a well told action movie today. For the most part, I think the really good movies are the ones that transcend the era in which they are made, and there are always films that will do that. A movie that was well written, directed and acted in the 1940s--like Hitchcock's stuff, Citizen Kane, Double Indemnity, or the Maltese Falcon--still more than hold up.

For the most part, I was talking about comic book movies, as I think that genre has only recently really evolved and come into it's own. Mostly because studios are actually taking the subject matter seriously now, where I feel they did not in the 70's and 80's, those movies were always delivered with a campy tone in the past.

As far as sensibilities go, there arent that many comedies (for instance) that can stand the test of time. Something that was funny in the 80's really isnt that funny today. There are many exceptions to this, like Young Frankenstein is one movie I always find funny, no matter when I watch it.

I do agree with other examples you hae posted, thrillers, action films, mysteries, dramas, etc...

A truly great film will transcend any time period and hold it's value.

 

[vodoun]

Does anyone ever watch the old films and find it refreshing that society has no smartphones? The days when people spoke to each other without everyone having to have or hear opinions. It hit me the other day when I was watching Beverly Hills Cop. People walking about with their heads held up high.

 

[karamazov80]

For the most part, I was talking about comic book movies, as I think that genre has only recently really evolved and come into it's own. Mostly because studios are actually taking the subject matter seriously now, where I feel they did not in the 70's and 80's, those movies were always delivered with a campy tone in the past.

As far as sensibilities go, there arent that many comedies (for instance) that can stand the test of time. Something that was funny in the 80's really isnt that funny today. There are many exceptions to this, like Young Frankenstein is one movie I always find funny, no matter when I watch it.

I do agree with other examples you hae posted, thrillers, action films, mysteries, dramas, etc...

A truly great film will transcend any time period and hold it's value.

I actually feel the same about comedies, as well. The Thin Man movies, the Marx Bros., Charlie Chaplin, Monty Python, Some Like it Hot, Annie Hall, Singing in the Rain, Airplane, all those old Cary Grant movies like the Philadelphia Story and His Girl Friday, Spinal Tap, etc. Comedies have always been hit or miss, but I think that, like anything else, the best comedies will transcend the social relevance of a given time. Are Richard Pryor, George Carlin, or Eddie Murphy any less funny because they did their acts in the '70s and '80s?

 

[vodoun]

Isn't another problem so many have really short memories?

 

[occulum]

People love to ***** and think it's cool to do so. I go in looking to be entertained and work from there. If people agree that's great and if not that's ok as well.

this is how I pretty much how I look at it as well.

Also remember, most people who like a movie tend to make a couple positive comments while the ***** & moaners seem to never shut up. Those with positive opinions & attitudes tend to just stay away for the same reasons I avoid going to Walmart.

The most entertaining part to me is how the negative-nancy's claim to not like the sand in their ******s, but then they keep coming back and putting more sand in their ******s just so they can continue complaining about all the sand in their ******s.
They sure do spend an awful lot of time at the beach to not like sand there.... ....

 

[karamazov80]

Does anyone ever watch the old films and find it refreshing that society has no smartphones? The days when people spoke to each other without everyone having to have or hear opinions. It hit me the other day when I was watching Beverly Hills Cop. People walking about with their heads held up high.

Related to that, we read our daughter lots of Berenstein Bears books, and one is called "Too Much TV." It is in desperate need of an update, called something like "Too much smartphones and IPads."

 

[SnakeDoctor]

Its partially a generational thing, and partially human nature. We're spoiled (that's the generational part). Spoiled people are brats (that's the human nature part). We have immediate access to literally any entertainment we want. An embarrassment of riches that breeds discontentment. We have the luxury to complain about every little thing ... and a lot of people squeeze that luxury for all its worth. Previous generations had no such luxury, and thus were far more appreciative of the comparatively little they had.

I do see the pendulum swinging back, though. For quite a few years, people fed their egos by complaining. He who had the cleverest, most refined complaint was clearly the smartest in the room. Lots seem to be figuring out that being the smartest in the room isn't all its cracked up to be.

SnakeDoc

 

[vodoun]

Very true. I think it's sort of a peer pressure thing, or they think it's expected of them and "cool" to instantly act negatively toward any new announcement without any real knowledge of it. Being happy or excited is a sign of weakness or something.

I honestly would have assumed that would have been a thing most would have phased out after school. One of the worst things about humanity.

Though, all thanks to social media everyone has to be liked so they have to go with the flow of liking or hating it.

 

[rushmore223]

I actually feel the same about comedies, as well. The Thin Man movies, the Marx Bros., Charlie Chaplin, Monty Python, Some Like it Hot, Annie Hall, Singing in the Rain, Airplane, all those old Cary Grant movies like the Philadelphia Story and His Girl Friday, Spinal Tap, etc. Comedies have always been hit or miss, but I think that, like anything else, the best comedies will transcend the social relevance of a given time. Are Richard Pryor, George Carlin, or Eddie Murphy any less funny because they did their acts in the '70s and '80s?

Yeah, but you just mentioned some of the greats. Someone else mentioned Beverly Hills Cop above, and that as actually one I was thinking of when I think of a movie I once thought was hilarious that just falls flat for me now. But maybe that is just me.

Someone else mentioned short memories, and that is partly to blame, as it seems like when I ask someone what their favorite movie is, they always mention something from the last coupe years.

 

[mistermadhouse]

Have Movie Audiences Always Been So Fickle?

The collective movie audience has always been fickle and self-righteous. You have to see and judge a movie for yourself, and on the merit of your own intelligence and capacity to understand it. It just seems like they're more fickle nowadays because the internet allows us to band together and either agree with each other - or grab our torches and pitchforks to drive out those with different opinions.

And remember...

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[Niltusk]

If you can't stand other people having opinions that you can't understand, that's something you should talk to a therapist about. Or..... maybe the Internet isn't for everyone if you worry more about others opinions than actually discussing topics, it's a sad state, but I think some people's only human interaction are these boards, great if you're a shut in and it opens a new world to you, bad if it's a crutch for you sitting in your mom's basement all day being a misanthrope. For someone working a 12 hour shift I'll personally say finding an entertaining place is a blessing, but if your only joy in life is coming here and "defending" movies and worrying about people's opinions... get a life, avoid these boards like the plague, this 'blessing' may well be your curse.

 

[Niltusk]

The collective movie audience has always been fickle and self-righteous. You have to see and judge a movie for yourself, and on the merit of your own intelligence and capacity to understand it. It just seems like they're more fickle nowadays because the internet allows us to band together and either agree with each other - or grab our torches and pitchforks to drive out those with different opinions.

And remember...

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Haha, I think a lot of people live by that book, not just on these boards.

 

[crows]

Does anyone ever watch the old films and find it refreshing that society has no smartphones? The days when people spoke to each other without everyone having to have or hear opinions. It hit me the other day when I was watching Beverly Hills Cop. People walking about with their heads held up high.

Not about smartphones or technology but I feel this way about the way the movie itself looks like.

I like tha before cameras gave movies this gritty look, horror movies were the best because it added to it. i liked that movies were a little bit grainy and the quality wasn't perfect

I hate that horror movies now look like a JC Penny or a SEARS commercial super stylized and the image is super crisp. I hate that so much..... every movie now looks like an add for Victoria's secret. that takes me out of the movie.

 

[GasparZizou]

My enjoyment of a movie has nothing to do with how old or new they are.

To say people like to trade new things for old things is to turn a blind eye to what often is a very valid opinion, some movies just don't hold up, period.

These days we don't have many good movies, but still every now and then a movie comes out, that happens to have a previous version and it's better than said previous version, if I like it, it's not only cause it's new and shiny.

 

[VintijDroidGutzz]

Maybe Scientology is the answer.

Once we have full 'knowingness' - & are clear, the internet won't be necessary anymore.

Technology isn't our enemy - Xenu is.