HBO's Game of Thrones

[EVILFACE]

Prolly gets tossed of a bridge and lands on Oath Keeper. Sitting style....

 

[rushmore223]

Prolly gets tossed of a bridge and lands on Oath Keeper. Sitting style....

I want him to have a long, drawn-out, Nordberg style death.

 

[higgins1989]

Last flaying ever to take place in the North would be ideal but forshadowing seems to suggest dogs of some kind.

 

[karamazov80]

I'm realizing the parallels between Roose's death and Robb Stark's death, which were likely a very conscious choice. Both are betrayed by people they trusted, as a means of gaining/maintaining power and influence, with the final blow coming from an intimate knife in the gut. And both have their spouses and young offspring killed, ending their bloodlines. Poetic justice for Roose, even if his death was a bit quicker than he deserved.

 

[higgins1989]

I'm realizing the parallels between Roose's death and Robb Stark's death, which were likely a very conscious choice. Both are betrayed by people they trusted, as a means of gaining/maintaining power and influence, with the final blow coming from an intimate knife in the gut. And both have their spouses and young offspring killed, ending their bloodlines. Poetic justice for Roose, even if his death was a bit quicker than he deserved.

Difference is I don't think this will happen in the books and Roose is smarter than this, at this point they just want to make Ramsay an invincible villain at the expense of logic.

 

[karamazov80]

That scene makes sense if Roose truly trusts and loves Ramsay. And we saw small hints of this in the TV show, but by and large Roose's behaviors were primarily self-interested, and in promoting his blood line generally, not Ramsay specifically.

 

[daikkenaurora]

I'm realizing the parallels between Roose's death and Robb Stark's death, which were likely a very conscious choice. Both are betrayed by people they trusted, as a means of gaining/maintaining power and influence, with the final blow coming from an intimate knife in the gut. And both have their spouses and young offspring killed, ending their bloodlines. Poetic justice for Roose, even if his death was a bit quicker than he deserved.

I never got the sense that Roose trusted Ramsey. I always felt that he was using Ramsey for his own goals.

 

[karamazov80]

If he didn't trust Ramsay, then he was a total fool to allow Ramsay to know the sex of his child at all, without putting countermeasures in place to protect himself and the baby. In fact, he should have removed Ramsay from the situation entirely as soon as his wife became pregnant. Again, he knew what Ramsay was capable of.

 

[daikkenaurora]

If he didn't trust Ramsay, then he was a total fool to allow Ramsay to know the sex of his child at all, without putting countermeasures in place to protect himself and the baby. In fact, he should have removed Ramsay from the situation entirely as soon as his wife became pregnant. Again, he knew what Ramsay was capable of.

I dont see how he could trust Ramsey at all. Maybe Roose thought he had him under control since he basically gave him Winterfell. "I've given him more than he deserves. I own him." is what Roose could have been thinking.

 

[GodzillaSpawn]

I do think Roose had a real working love for Ramsey but I also think he arrogantly felt like he could always control him and in a sense felt rather invincible on that dynamic.

Ramsey is a crazy character, but I never thought he was funny or interesting enough as a character to ever like him. He's portrayed well enough by the actor, but to me his made to be annoying and savage in a frustrating manner. Like the writers knew we'd all hate joffrey that's what I felt like they are doing with Ramsay.

I thought Stannis and Tywin were the best villains because they had moments where they seemed very human as well. Even Khaleesi's brother was interesting and funny in Loki kind of way. But Ramsey is psycho i never thought he was funny. Guys like Joffrey and Ramsey I feel like are just there to aggravate you until they finally get theirs.

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[karamazov80]

Yeah, the best way this makes sense is to think that Roose fell victim to human frailties, be it ego, affection, or (what I think is likely the case) a combination of the two. I can't imagine Peter Baelish falling for something like this.

I dont see how he could trust Ramsey at all. Maybe Roose thought he had him under control since he basically gave him Winterfell. "I've given him more than he deserves. I own him." is what Roose could have been thinking.

I think that's a way of explaining it as I posted earlier, but in that sense it's not really different than trust in a contractual relationship. Roose never came off as a fool in the show, and he did demonstrate wariness toward Ramsay. But the only way his behaviors make sense to me is that he didn't think Ramsay would do what he did, out of affection, familial ties, appreciation, etc.

 

[DinoDB1975]

I don't think that's ever been stated, it's just a theory - speculating that Syrio Forel is actually Jaqen H'ghar

The theory started after Season one, when Yoren is bringing the new recruits to Castle Black. There's one guy in the cell on the horse cart with a hood over his face. A lot of people were theorizing that it was Syrio.

I hope when ramsay's time come, it wouldn't be a quick and easy death as Bolton. Maybe have him at the mercy of theon, returns ng the favor to cut his favorite toy would be a starter

Either Death by (his) dogs or Death by Direwolf is the only way for Ramsey to go out now. Hope they go for his sausage link first.

Last flaying ever to take place in the North would be ideal but forshadowing seems to suggest dogs of some kind.

The flaying would be poetic justice, but I'd like to see Theon redeem himself and take out Ramsey.

I'm realizing the parallels between Roose's death and Robb Stark's death, which were likely a very conscious choice. Both are betrayed by people they trusted, as a means of gaining/maintaining power and influence, with the final blow coming from an intimate knife in the gut. And both have their spouses and young offspring killed, ending their bloodlines. Poetic justice for Roose, even if his death was a bit quicker than he deserved.

Well, Roose's bloodline remains with Ramsey. He was legitimized (for lack of a better word) two seasons ago.

 

[daikkenaurora]

Yeah, the best way this makes sense is to think that Roose fell victim to human frailties, be it ego, affection, or (what I think is likely the case) a combination of the two. I can't imagine Peter Baelish falling for something like this.


I think that's a way of explaining it as I posted earlier, but in that sense it's not really different than trust in a contractual relationship. Roose never came off as a fool in the show, and he did demonstrate wariness toward Ramsay. But the only way his behaviors make sense to me is that he didn't think Ramsay would do what he did, out of affection, familial ties, appreciation, etc.

That I definitely agree with.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

I read an interesting theory about Hodor online today

 

[karamazov80]

Well, Roose's bloodline remains with Ramsey. He was legitimized (for lack of a better word) two seasons ago.

True.

 

[Ce Ilhuicamina]

You guys go too soft on the *******. If Jon has some Thenns at his command I'd love them to eat him alive piece by piece. Poetic justice: Ramsay tortures people using the ancient and banned practice of flaying it's only fair that he dies by another sick tradition of the first men. As a descendant of both cannibals and flayers (is that even a word?) I'd be happy with any of them to be honest.

Damn, Iwan Rheon sure has stepped forward to fill the abysmal hole Joffrey left, such a versatile actor I no longer see him as "Barry" from Misfits.

I read an interesting theory about Hodor online today

Does it involve the Great Other?

 

[daikkenaurora]

You guys go too soft on the *******. If Jon has some Thenn's at his command I'd love them to eat him alive piece by piece. Poetic justice: Ramsay tortures people using the ancient and banned practice of flaying it's only fair that he dies by another sick tradition of the first men. As a descendant of both cannibals and flayers (is that even a word?) I'd be happy with any of them to be honest.

Damn, Iwan Rheon sure has stepped forward to fill the abysmal hole Joffrey left, such a versatile actor I no longer see him as "Barry" from Misfits.





Does it involve the Great Other?

Jon would invite him to a Thenn dinner party.

Iwan is definitely not Simon anymore. Dude can act.

 

[karamazov80]

For some reason, my first thought on how Jon might change after being revived is to become more cruel and less empathetic to his enemies. And the first potential targets there would be Thorne and Olly. Because it was weird that Thorne, at least, wasn't just killed outright by the Wildlings.

 

[DinoDB1975]

Does it make me a bad person for wanting Olly to die?

I still cringe at the Captain Morgan pose and curt nod he gave to Jon Snow after shooting Ygritte.

 

[GeneralZodLives]

The Hodor theory is pretty interesting. I don't really know what they could do in the show to make it a better story if they don't use it.