Hot Toys Bespin Han speculation thread

[Lordscum]

Exactly. Why would Ford single out Hot Toys and not Gentle Giant in his "contract"? It doesn't make sense. I doubt Ford even knows what Hot Toys are.

Or Hasbro , Figuarts , and Disney Park exclusives.

 

[TaliBane]

Seeing that Gentle Giant Statues likeness makes me wonder if Fords approval was even necessary as it doesn't look like Ford at all. Hence the Mike Myers jokes.

It's actually a smart move - like they obviously secured Pedro Pascal's likeness and cleverly used it for their Luke Bespin bust. So there's a slight mismatch but the face is still totally familiar.

 

[fantasticfrog]

There should be a 20/20 special or a documentary: why won’t hot toys make Harrison ford figures?
Like someone else said, han is so popular he doesn’t need a convention or anniversary.
It’s one of the great mysteries of our time. Even stormtrooper han was an exclusive and not a wide release if I remember correctly. I actually bought three because I needed two extra stormtroopers. Glad I did.
I could be wrong about it being the exclusive.

 

[Rzeznikk]

It's actually a smart move - like they obviously secured Pedro Pascal's likeness and cleverly used it for their Luke Bespin bust. So there's a slight mismatch but the face is still totally familiar.

Oof. Wth GG!

 

[MyenShi]

I doubt Ford even knows what Hot Toys are.

Ford was a mega star in the 80’s. He definitely knows what hot toys are.



Oh the company. Yeah probably not.

 

[The Green Goblin]

My guess as to why this figure is missing is that Lucasfilm wanted the spotlight on the young Han from Solo at the time. This one got lost in the shuffle between Solo, IW, and Endgame. After that the Mando craze hit, and they've apparently been losing sculptors, which is why we've been seeing so many figures without head sculpts. I just don't think it's a priority for them to release this anymore. Just look at how long it took for them to put that Bespin Luke up for order.

 

[TaliBane]

I just have too wide ranging of a desire for SW/Indy figs to go the $$$$ custom route, where you spend over $1,000 on a single human-scale fig.

I have well over 120 SW figs - creatures, robots, armored, etc - many I've made myself for $, but I just can't bring myself to spend more than around $250-300 on a single regular 1/6 character. The new SSC Jabba I spent $660 on, and my custom Dewback is maybe $400, but both of them are huge.

I just think that you can cobble together a "decent enough" Han Bespin for under the price of a HT Han Besp. Will it hold up to a standalone"hero" display like a HT fig? No. If you want that, then the $1000+ custom is probably your only option. But as a part of a wider ESB fig display, it's fine.

This is just the space trucker head, medi pants and SSC jacket+shirt (SSC Han Hoth extra) and an old SSC holster. Again, not stellar, but not bad.

 

[Johnny Utah]

I'm hoping to fill that void with an avalanche of Indy merchandise next year though.

I never got the DX Indy, but at this stage I'll settle if it's close enough, and more than one company makes a stab.

 

[TaliBane]

I'm hoping to fill that void with an avalanche of Indy merchandise next year though.

I never got the DX Indy, but at this stage I'll settle if it's close enough, and more than one company makes a stab.

There has to be some Indy 1/6 goodness next year. Indy 5's still a full year away from release, plenty of time for a company to make a play.

 

[Johnny Utah]

It would be cool if new player InArt did Indy. He won that ******** poll didn't he

 

[DrWeaponX]

The problem with a really good custom is that you'll spend 3-4 times what a HT Han Bespin will cost you. I'd assume all-up (head, paint, trackable shipping to and fro) DrX's head above would have easily cost more than a shipped HT fig.

Then there's the possibility you spend all that, go to the time/effort of putting it all together, then a few months later HT pulls a Luke Bespin on you: the years-lost fig suddenly previews and goes up for PO.

It's the key problem of HT's near-total lack of engagement with its collectors all along - they constantly do stuff that makes no sense (they preview 3 different power droids, actually releasing one, but no Han Besp?) and there's no way to predict it.

Even SSC at one time had a "Ask Sideshow" avenue to ask them questions (even if some of what they said they would make they didn't, and vice versa.)

You are correct sir!

 

[DrWeaponX]

But it's worth it. Nothing HT releases will touch custom work anyway. And they have already proven they can sculpt young Ford. Inigo nailed it. Yunsil clothing is steps above HT in terms of quality. And of course Robbies Leatherwork and blaster is nothing short of perfection. Yeah it's costs $$$$ but I'm totally OK with sacrificing a few mass produced HT pieces to have this level of quality on the shelf. And it's Bespin Han!View attachment 584044

I think those rationalizing on waiting should just stop waiting and go the custom route at this point. Trust me guys, you won't be disappointed.

More pics here:

This.

I think that’s the issue with this hobby - if you really want something, you’ll need to do it yourself. In this case, we both splurged for a custom piece that was expensive. There’s no getting around that. But “HT Bespin Han” was teased 4 years ago? He hasn’t been announced obviously and probably won’t be. To an earlier post, HT doesn’t think that they need to and can sit in it. Assuming he is “revealed” this summer, he likely won’t even be up for preorder for, at absolute best, a few more months. Then we’re waiting until 2024 at the earliest? For me as a collector, I’m not interested in leaving a hole on my (personal) shelf for nearly a decade. That’s too long of a wait time. Plus, like a lot of you, I lack patience!

It’s also a gamble and subjective - what makes anyone think HT will “nail” the likeness? Again, the Inigo head that Cellar and I ordered and had SS paint will surpass HT quality and (for us) likeness. I totally get that it’s a pain and pricey, but I also love making customs so for me, the hunt is kind of fun too.

To me, it’s immaterial whether it’s Harrison or Howard or Disney holding off because at best you’re waiting another 2.5 years for something that may be way off anyways (or not). Having been collecting figures of all scales and lots of lines for nearly 3 decades, HT is going the route of Hasbro with SW: the trooper/exclusive/variant route which is really just masking a high-margin re-paint/reissue strategy.

Certainly there are collectors that love that - I’m probably in the minority though and I understand that “sells”. But I’d venture a bet that Bespin Han is at least another 5 years away.

 

[DrWeaponX]

I just have too wide ranging of a desire for SW/Indy figs to go the $$$$ custom route, where you spend over $1,000 on a single human-scale fig.

I have well over 120 SW figs - creatures, robots, armored, etc - many I've made myself for $, but I just can't bring myself to spend more than around $250-300 on a single regular 1/6 character. The new SSC Jabba I spent $660 on, and my custom Dewback is maybe $400, but both of them are huge.

I just think that you can cobble together a "decent enough" Han Bespin for under the price of a HT Han Besp. Will it hold up to a standalone"hero" display like a HT fig? No. If you want that, then the $1000+ custom is probably your only option. But as a part of a wider ESB fig display, it's fine.

This is just the space trucker head, medi pants and SSC jacket+shirt (SSC Han Hoth extra) and an old SSC holster. Again, not stellar, but not bad.

That was my original Bespin Han. You’re absolutely right that there’s nothing wrong with it! And I still have a soft spot for that slightly oversized Space tracker head!

 

[VintageDisney]

This.

I think that’s the issue with this hobby - if you really want something, you’ll need to do it yourself. In this case, we both splurged for a custom piece that was expensive. There’s no getting around that. But “HT Bespin Han” was teased 4 years ago? He hasn’t been announced obviously and probably won’t be. To an earlier post, HT doesn’t think that they need to and can sit in it. Assuming he is “revealed” this summer, he likely won’t even be up for preorder for, at absolute best, a few more months. Then we’re waiting until 2024 at the earliest? For me as a collector, I’m not interested in leaving a hole on my (personal) shelf for nearly a decade. That’s too long of a wait time. Plus, like a lot of you, I lack patience!

It’s also a gamble and subjective - what makes anyone think HT will “nail” the likeness? Again, the Inigo head that Cellar and I ordered and had SS paint will surpass HT quality and (for us) likeness. I totally get that it’s a pain and pricey, but I also love making customs so for me, the hunt is kind of fun too.

To me, it’s immaterial whether it’s Harrison or Howard or Disney holding off because at best you’re waiting another 2.5 years for something that may be way off anyways (or not). Having been collecting figures of all scales and lots of lines for nearly 3 decades, HT is going the route of Hasbro with SW: the trooper/exclusive/variant route which is really just masking a high-margin re-paint/reissue strategy.

Certainly there are collectors that love that - I’m probably in the minority though and I understand that “sells”. But I’d venture a bet that Bespin Han is at least another 5 years away.

Oh that last sentence hurts to read…
I just wanna be hopeful, and think that MAYBE, we’ll get a hot toys Indiana Jones next year? I can’t imagine a lucasfilm movie not getting the hot toys treatment. I feel like Indy 5 will really show us wether Hot Toys owns the likeness of Ford or not, or that Howard just doesn’t like Ford lately.

 

[MyenShi]

Oh that last sentence hurts to read…
I just wanna be hopeful, and think that MAYBE, we’ll get a hot toys Indiana Jones next year? I can’t imagine a lucasfilm movie not getting the hot toys treatment. I feel like Indy 5 will really show us wether Hot Toys owns the likeness of Ford or not, or that Howard just doesn’t like Ford lately.

I’m amused you just kinda waltzed back in here like nothing happened after causing the forum equivalent of a bar brawl to break out.

 

[VintageDisney]

I’m amused you just kinda waltzed back in here like nothing happened after causing the forum equivalent of a bar brawl to break out.

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What can I say, I just loveeee conversation

 

[Prime Clone]

I just have too wide ranging of a desire for SW/Indy figs to go the $$$$ custom route, where you spend over $1,000 on a single human-scale fig.

I have well over 120 SW figs - creatures, robots, armored, etc - many I've made myself for $, but I just can't bring myself to spend more than around $250-300 on a single regular 1/6 character. The new SSC Jabba I spent $660 on, and my custom Dewback is maybe $400, but both of them are huge.

I just think that you can cobble together a "decent enough" Han Bespin for under the price of a HT Han Besp. Will it hold up to a standalone"hero" display like a HT fig? No. If you want that, then the $1000+ custom is probably your only option. But as a part of a wider ESB fig display, it's fine.

This is just the space trucker head, medi pants and SSC jacket+shirt (SSC Han Hoth extra) and an old SSC holster. Again, not stellar, but not bad.

It's inconceivable we have Bespin Lando but not Han. Or any Mando or BOBF character but not Han!

 

[FlyAndFight]

It's inconceivable we have Bespin Lando but not Han. Or any Mando or BOBF character but not Han!

I read that quote in this voice...

 

[Mondragon]

I read that quote in this voice...

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Random:
Ever notice-
Jedi Luke is basicly The Man in Black
Princess Leia, obviously the Princess
Han & Chewie are essentially Inigo & Fezic.
Emperor and Vader are Humperdinck and Rugen (symbolic father killer, instead minus a hand, it's plus a finger)
And I guess that makes Obi-Wan and his wife Yoda, the old exiled Miracle Max and Val, living in a hut.


Oh right, on topic, so when is the next ESB anniversary, or event?

Cue all the why did you bump for that! crying and rock throwing

Sorry I mean...

 

[RandomHero]

This thread being bumped out of nowhere is the bane of my existence.