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This is a quick rough comparison, if they post an image of the custom stormbreaker with a known body or sculpt it will be easier to scale. I went my more arm length to adjust it

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I think this is a great Thor. Movie wise he was fine, I felt they ignored some of the growth from Ragnarok (now he needs to have a hammer to be the God of Thunder again?) Figure wise, I would say Roadworn and Gladiator are also top of the line with regards to Thor figures. If I didn't have a Thor, this would be a great one to grab. But I already own Gladiator, and do have limited space...so hard to justify all these shaved headed Thors. Getting multiples of the same character is a real stretch for myself and others. Plus, I don't really like this Thor costume that much. The bear arms make it look better, but then we are getting pretty close to gladiator thor.

The rule breaker though is Iron Man. I only have the DC MK 6, but that Concept Art 46 is just tremendous. It is arguably one of the best MCU armor designs, one of the most advanced looking, and yet the paint scheme is reminiscent of classic comics. It is a figure that I could display with almost any marvel shelf and make it work. I feel about 75% chance of nabbing that at this point.

I have a A1 Thor with the Dark World HS and i think it looks perfect. I was not planning on getting another Thor but these are so different. A1 has bright colors, hammer and long hair and this one is almost all black with short hair, axe and one eye (i'll be using the patch). If i had picked up any Ragnarok Thors i would have skipped this one.
 
I think this is a great Thor. Movie wise he was fine, I felt they ignored some of the growth from Ragnarok (now he needs to have a hammer to be the God of Thunder again?) Figure wise, I would say Roadworn and Gladiator are also top of the line with regards to Thor figures. If I didn't have a Thor, this would be a great one to grab. But I already own Gladiator, and do have limited space...so hard to justify all these shaved headed Thors. Getting multiples of the same character is a real stretch for myself and others. Plus, I don't really like this Thor costume that much. The bear arms make it look better, but then we are getting pretty close to gladiator thor.

The rule breaker though is Iron Man. I only have the DC MK 6, but that Concept Art 46 is just tremendous. It is arguably one of the best MCU armor designs, one of the most advanced looking, and yet the paint scheme is reminiscent of classic comics. It is a figure that I could display with almost any marvel shelf and make it work. I feel about 75% chance of nabbing that at this point.

Yeah I have roadworn but not gladiator so this is a no brainer. Now I have imo both of the best HT Thors. I’m also in same boat with Iron Man. I have the VI and have the 50 on PO but that 46 concept looks amazing with the color scheme. The regular 46 is the armor I wish I had most but it’s too expensive now so I may cancel my VII PO and get the 46concept
 
I think this is a great Thor. Movie wise he was fine, I felt they ignored some of the growth from Ragnarok (now he needs to have a hammer to be the God of Thunder again?) Figure wise, I would say Roadworn and Gladiator are also top of the line with regards to Thor figures. If I didn't have a Thor, this would be a great one to grab. But I already own Gladiator, and do have limited space...so hard to justify all these shaved headed Thors. Getting multiples of the same character is a real stretch for myself and others. Plus, I don't really like this Thor costume that much. The bear arms make it look better, but then we are getting pretty close to gladiator thor.

The rule breaker though is Iron Man. I only have the DC MK 6, but that Concept Art 46 is just tremendous. It is arguably one of the best MCU armor designs, one of the most advanced looking, and yet the paint scheme is reminiscent of classic comics. It is a figure that I could display with almost any marvel shelf and make it work. I feel about 75% chance of nabbing that at this point.

I think statements like these significantly miss the context of IW. Nowhere was it stated that he isnt the god of thunder without the hammer nor was it ever implied. His godliness never stemmed from the hammer and the Russos certainly never implied that. Especially from his many feats pre stormbreaker (surviving in space, anchoring the massive CITY size rings of the the forge, and tanking a neutron star for a short while). He was certainly portrayed as godly before he got the axe. Yes, he got a power upgrade in Ragnarok and was able to channel his power from himself directly without an object... But looking back in that final fight with Hela, did his increased power help him stop her? No, even then it wasnt enough. And with Thanos who is arguably stronger than Hela( without the stones alone, much more so with them), did ppl really expect thor to just be able to lightning punch him to death? Cmon really? No, he needed a weapon to actually harm thanos. Simple as that. Now that they established him as his own god without the weapon, we can give him a new one without it seeming like a crutch. And looking back, as powerful as Bor and Odin were (his forefathers), did they still not have a kings weapon? I feel the Russos and the writers of IW piggy backed off Thor in Ragnarok brilliantly. As it showed a pain and loss (ppl, family, and home) behind his new sense of humor and midset. It added depth. And where as Ragnarok established him as powerful on his own, IW simply advanced his ablilities further through natural progression. Not stepping back i feel. The ONLY thing i would say they diluted from the Thor3 was the loss of his eye. For whatever production excuse they came up with, I still feel it was just silly to undue that particular change. It really felt weak and the patch helped mirror him to odin. But outside of that, i think Thor has only progressed.
 
I think statements like these significantly miss the context of IW. Nowhere was it stated that he isnt the god of thunder without the hammer nor was it ever implied. His godliness never stemmed from the hammer and the Russos certainly never implied that. Especially from his many feats pre stormbreaker (surviving in space, anchoring the massive CITY size rings of the the forge, and tanking a neutron star for a short while). He was certainly portrayed as godly before he got the axe. Yes, he got a power upgrade in Ragnarok and was able to channel his power from himself directly without an object... But looking back in that final fight with Hela, did his increased power help him stop her? No, even then it wasnt enough. And with Thanos who is arguably stronger than Hela( without the stones alone, much more so with them), did ppl really expect thor to just be able to lightning punch him to death? Cmon really? No, he needed a weapon to actually harm thanos. Simple as that. Now that they established him as his own god without the weapon, we can give him a new one without it seeming like a crutch. And looking back, as powerful as Bor and Odin were (his forefathers), did they still not have a kings weapon? I feel the Russos and the writers of IW piggy backed off Thor in Ragnarok brilliantly. As it showed a pain and loss (ppl, family, and home) behind his new sense of humor and midset. It added depth. And where as Ragnarok established him as powerful on his own, IW simply advanced his ablilities further through natural progression. Not stepping back i feel. The ONLY thing i would say they diluted from the Thor3 was the loss of his eye. For whatever production excuse they came up with, I still feel it was just silly to undue that particular change. It really felt weak and the patch helped mirror him to odin. But outside of that, i think Thor has only progressed.

I agree with some elements, but I disagree. Thor was arguably just as strong as Hela, Hela however was immune to basically anything Asgardian since she converted the Odin Force to her death magic and immortality. Having the power of immortality is something Thanos arguably didn't obtain. Only Surtur could defeat her since he destroys Asgard (the source of her power.)

Thor's journey in Ragnarok was that the weapon did not provide him with extra power, that within himself he held the true power.

In interviews, the Russos have specifically states they were not overly aware with what was going on in Ragnarok, just that they knew Thor was losing his hammer and they preferred a Thor with a hammer. Thor running at Thanos as the beginning of the movie hitting him with a lead pipe makes a good joke, but Thor is already way past this development wise (when pieces of the ship contained him as his brother and friends were killed, why did he not unleash his power then, break his chains, and zap everybody.)

I do like Thor's progression in IF from a self-contained view. Thor regressing to need a weapon (when the point of Ragnarok is that godly weapons are pointless) is what I don't like. Thor holding the rings open and everything is cool, but doesn't make a ton of sense in context of IF, since his power is bouncing around. Personally I would have rather seen Drax or somebody else who needs further character development to sacrifice their lives to help Thor. That would have been better writing.
 
I agree with some elements, but I disagree. Thor was arguably just as strong as Hela, Hela however was immune to basically anything Asgardian since she converted the Odin Force to her death magic and immortality. Having the power of immortality is something Thanos arguably didn't obtain. Only Surtur could defeat her since he destroys Asgard (the source of her power.)

Thor's journey in Ragnarok was that the weapon did not provide him with extra power, that within himself he held the true power.

In interviews, the Russos have specifically states they were not overly aware with what was going on in Ragnarok, just that they knew Thor was losing his hammer and they preferred a Thor with a hammer. Thor running at Thanos as the beginning of the movie hitting him with a lead pipe makes a good joke, but Thor is already way past this development wise (when pieces of the ship contained him as his brother and friends were killed, why did he not unleash his power then, break his chains, and zap everybody.)

I do like Thor's progression in IF from a self-contained view. Thor regressing to need a weapon (when the point of Ragnarok is that godly weapons are pointless) is what I don't like. Thor holding the rings open and everything is cool, but doesn't make a ton of sense in context of IF, since his power is bouncing around. Personally I would have rather seen Drax or somebody else who needs further character development to sacrifice their lives to help Thor. That would have been better writing.

I looked as the axe something to get past the Infinity Stones. Thanos had already kicked Thors *** and he was only getting stronger. i guessed watching the movie that he did everything he could do just like he did with Hela. Wrong or right just what i was thinking watching the movie.

One thing that always bugged me is where was Hulk while the whole attack was going on? He was on the ship but was hiding until a bunch of people had been killed?
 
Great discussion that I definitely agree with most points. It really felt like Stormbreaker was a “king’s weapon” that helped Thor not only travel to earth but also “defeat” Thanos.

Regarding the eye situation, the change could definitely had been for practical (movie) reasons but I also appreciate them giving him another eye. As a comic reader, I feel Thor is too young to be portrayed with the patch (Odin style) and it’s something they could save for the future.

Also glad this didn’t devolve into **** throwing.
 
Yeah, great discussion.. and one I've had with myself many a time regarding Thor's development and how his weapons fit into the equation. I think we would all be interested to see the Russo's take on how the battle in space actually would have gone down. Thor was disadvantaged massively either way because he really needs the big open spaces to be at his best.

And the eye situation is probably my big nitpick. It was like they decided we don't want one eyed Thor and changed it. There was absolutely no logic at all in how he got the new eye either. C'mon, even in a comic book superhero movie, that was dumb..
 
Thor needing a weapon is not him regressing. He had already lost in hand to hand combat with Thanos. Even without all of the Infinity stones. Now that Thanos has the stones, Thor needed something that could get through the power of the stones.
 
The eyepatch is potentially temporary too. If Hemsworth sticks around for future films such as something involving New Asgard, he can always bring it back when in the king role.
 
I agree with some elements, but I disagree. Thor was arguably just as strong as Hela, Hela however was immune to basically anything Asgardian since she converted the Odin Force to her death magic and immortality. Having the power of immortality is something Thanos arguably didn't obtain. Only Surtur could defeat her since he destroys Asgard (the source of her power.)

Thor's journey in Ragnarok was that the weapon did not provide him with extra power, that within himself he held the true power.

In interviews, the Russos have specifically states they were not overly aware with what was going on in Ragnarok, just that they knew Thor was losing his hammer and they preferred a Thor with a hammer. Thor running at Thanos as the beginning of the movie hitting him with a lead pipe makes a good joke, but Thor is already way past this development wise (when pieces of the ship contained him as his brother and friends were killed, why did he not unleash his power then, break his chains, and zap everybody.)

I do like Thor's progression in IF from a self-contained view. Thor regressing to need a weapon (when the point of Ragnarok is that godly weapons are pointless) is what I don't like. Thor holding the rings open and everything is cool, but doesn't make a ton of sense in context of IF, since his power is bouncing around. Personally I would have rather seen Drax or somebody else who needs further character development to sacrifice their lives to help Thor. That would have been better writing.

Thank you for good discussion. May i rebuttal? I would hardly argue Thor was anywhere close to as strong as hela. As we see in the thrown room fight, she casually overpowers him multiple times. Any time they get a hold of each other, she shruggs him off with ease. And crushing mjolnir with pure strength alone is still above what thor can do for now id say. And thanos made hulk look like a man made of paper. So id say he is probably even above her strength wise.

Now when you start talking about odin force and death magic and what not...eh? Things will get harder to sort through because a lot of those mcu points were left vague or completely unexplained. Odin force as you may call it has never actually been verbally stated, nor does it seem like its just passed down like that in the mcu. Helas power seems to be her own, not gained by odin at all. There is no proof to say she gained that force and started converting it. And as for death magic... I mean she didnt really have death magic at all. Its not like she resurrected her Army with her own power. She needed the Eternal Flame to do that. I think the goddess of death moniker is simply due to the fact that she's nearly Unstoppable and a killing machine. But again in the MCU these asgardian titles and specific abilities aren't well explained. But yes she drew her power from Asgard and as such she was extremely difficult to kill, but the point is Thor even with all his power could not truly harm her. Immortality or not she seemed durable enough to take anything he could really throw at her. And the same was the case with Thanos, there is no move Thor has that can actually put him down at least not bare-fisted. period. And from a storytelling perspective and from a lore perspective in universe, he needed something that could pierce him and kill him. That can actually harm him. And we know the strength of Dwarven uru and the ppwer of their enchantments. The lesson of Ragnarok was not that Godly weapons aren't needed, the lesson was that it's not the weapon that makes you a god. And I'd wager with Stormbreaker Thor would have decapitated Hela as well.

And while the Russo's may not have been completely clear on the details of Ragnarok beforehand, I'm sure the writers of infinity War were at least somewhat aware of what Taika wanted to do. There is basic communication between MCU film writers. Even if its the most barebones. And that has been stated many times over the few yrs. Christopher Markus and Stephen mcfeely are great writers in their own right and I think they got it down. Thevye been writing these mcu characters for many yrs now.

I also don't understand what you mean by "his powers were bouncing around", they have been on a steady incline and pretty consistent so far to me. Especially after tanking the full Sokovia explosion at ground zero that not only vaporized the city but most of the land mass underneath. And while it may have simply knocked him out, he was shown up and about chatting with stark and cap just fine maybe a day later. He has slowing been shown more and more powerful with IW reaching the upper echelon . At the end of the day I just don't see how Thor would be able to beat Thanos without a weapon that could not only compete with his own durability but the Infinity Stones themselves. I feel like Thor learned who he was as a god in losing mjolnir and can go forward with who he is as the God of Thunder with Stormbreaker. But i do understand where you are coming from but my point still stands, there needed to be a counter to Thanos. And star forged weapon wielded by a thunder god makes the most sense. I think they handled it well without stepping on toes.
 
The eyepatch is potentially temporary too. If Hemsworth sticks around for future films such as something involving New Asgard, he can always bring it back when in the king role.

Man i would love an old king thor movie. With a little grey in hemsworths long hair and beard. Far into the future ruling over a new asgard or maybe even a deserted one. With the eye patch and all. Wihtered and experienced. Battle worn. yet with hemsworths massive but shredded physique. Very similar to jason aarons God of Thunder run. I think itd be the way to go
 
Man i would love an old king thor movie. With a little grey in hemsworths long hair and beard. Far into the future ruling over a new asgard or maybe even a deserted one. With the eye patch and all. Wihtered and experienced. Battle worn. yet with hemsworths massive but shredded physique. Very similar to jason aarons God of Thunder run. I think itd be the way to go

Also sounds like the never happened John Milius King Conan movie.
 
21cm length sure does seem longer and the head of the axe is bigger. According to the specs it has the uv paint so it will be interesting to see how that looks. I have zero experience with that stuff so i wonder if the glow will match, not a huge deal but it is something im wondering about. Not a dealbreaker
 
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