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I think he would have been nominated no matter what. I admit that the win might have been swayed slightly in his favor by his death. But to reduce that to "symathy Oscar" doesn't feel fair. He wasn't gonna get another chance to be nominated. If he was gonna win, it had to be then.

You pretty much just described why it was a sympathy Oscar.
 
Yeah, I see what you mean. And I guess I agree more or less. I just prefer to give out candy coated hand-jobs then to use rhetoric like "sympathy oscar". ;)
 
Elvis was more famous after his death. Say to people you can't have and exploit heaven.
 
Couple of more pics with the everfalling hat! :)


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Thanks Mag! I get so scared moving his eyes lol. I'm digging the pose though. Good idea.



Nam, I have seen you in other threads always trying to start arguments. If you have a problem with Heath's performance then go flaunt it in The Dark Knight thread.
 
Couple of more pics with the everfalling hat! :)


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I don't understand how and why people have such an issue with the hat... mine is on all the way, you just got to push it on a little bit at time and use your finger tips and go around the rim evenly as you push down... Man, that sounds all perverted... but yeah, that's all it takes and that's what she said.

I don't know if you can see him all that well in pic but he is there in the background:
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Hey, at least I didn't use "oxymoronic" given I know how much you just loooooooooove that word. :lol

True dat. A toast to civility?

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Thanks Mag! I get so scared moving his eyes lol. I'm digging the pose though. Good idea.

It was worth taking the chance. :)


I don't understand how and why people have such an issue with the hat... mine is on all the way, you just got to push it on a little bit at time and use your finger tips and go around the rim evenly as you push down... Man, that sounds all perverted... but yeah, that's all it takes and that's what she said.

I don't know if you can see him all that well in pic but he is there in the background:
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M.


I've never had trouble with my hat either, but from what others have said, it sounds like some of them were made with too small of a diameter. :dunno


Great pic btw.
 
The whole sympathy oscar just sounds stupid. I dont think the Academy people were sitting around going" he died we need to give him an oscar" I dont know why people like saying this stupid ____. Thats all Im posting on the matter. I just had to say my peace. Theres certain arguments I personally dont get into anymore:
1. The existence of God
2.Did Metallica sell out or not.
and
3. Did Heath Ledger deserve an oscar
 
No, because Romero's Joker was straight out of the comic book (terrifically done, btw), and Nicholson, though new, was a pretty basic psycho murderous villain you could have seen in 100 80s action movies. Ledger Joker's appeal, in my opinion, is his larger role as a representative of anarchy, rejecting societal norms and trying to fundamentally change the system, etc. Tyler Durden stuff. The previous Jokers weren't trying to do that, really, and if they did, it was in such a cartoonish way that the kids who listen to the Cure or whatever couldn't relate.

The Crow is an entirely different creature. Even as a kid I knew there wasn't much going on there.
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I don't really see a difference in Nicholson's Joker and Ledger's other than application. We were more open-minded in the 80's and acceptable of a comic book movie in a comic book world. Today's viewing audience is more jaded and need things to be more grounded. Ledger's Joker was written to fit that but was no-more mad than Nicholson's. But when you make the disconnect from roles and look at the public and their grasp of it and just how they've embraced just about every aspect of the Joker, it's exactly the same as it was with Eric Draven after Lee's death in the 90's. I'm wondering if it has something to do with the finality of the roles.

wow.
 
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