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the terminator is capable of learning...period.
Ockham respects you :)
(me too, if asked)


While i'm at it i'm looking for boots, glasses and gloved hands.
I'm trading AR18 for those or cash :)
while i need that AR badly and have lots of "new variant" boots as i use "old variants" on all t1 figures... shipping from me would take over a month.
 
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It can still record dialog and recycle it as needed ;)

In T2 Arnold learn the meaning of the value of human life and started to learn about human emotions.

In T1 it was just a record and play back. My yak back in the 90's was capable of that.

Yep, I was just pointing it out. He did say it in T2, albeit the extended version. And I guess James Cameron wouldn't want to contradict himself, would he?
 
Yep, I was just pointing it out. He did say it in T2, albeit the extended version.
several other things against it have been pointed out since.

And I guess James Cameron wouldn't want to contradict himself, would he?
for money?
1984: "Nobody goes home. Nobody else comes through. It's just him - and me."
1991: well you know.
 
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Heh. Well some things fit together, some don't, I guess. :wave
like this:
t2:
194c0419f3e6.png

117
00:20:19,134 --> 00:20:21,008
Remember the message?

118
00:20:22,429 --> 00:20:25,050
''The future is not set.

119
00:20:25,599 --> 00:20:29,014
There is no fate
but what we make for ourselves.''

t1:
576
01:05:12,037 --> 01:05:15,965
Thank you, Sarah, for your
courage through the dark years.

577
01:05:16,005 --> 01:05:18,012
I can't help you with
what you must soon face...

578
01:05:18,052 --> 01:05:20,540
except to say that
the future is not set.

579
01:05:20,581 --> 01:05:23,101
You must be stronger
than you imagine you can be.

580
01:05:23,140 --> 01:05:26,751
You must survive,
or I will never exist.

581
01:05:26,788 --> 01:05:28,511
That's all.
that's all! no word about fate ;)

including "nobody else comes" and t2 knowledge about dyson work on t1 remains, how do you take a movie line if it goes against the previous movie line?

(t2 knowing about t1 remains - either skynet or connor gives him that knowledge - either skynet or connor change/force/avoid the reason and conditions of skynet creation, not the reason of connor existance).
 
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several other things against it have been pointed out since.

for money?
1984: "Nobody goes home. Nobody else comes through. It's just him - and me."
1991: well you know.

Yeah but thats just as far as Kyle Reese, a grunt (ah, no offense), knew.
 
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like this:
t2:
194c0419f3e6.png



t1:
that's all! no word about fate ;)

including "nobody else comes" and t2 knowledge about dyson work on t1 remains, how do you take a movie line if it goes against the previous movie line?

(t2 knowing about t1 remains - either skynet or connor gives him that knowledge - either skynet or connor change/force/avoid the reason and conditions of skynet creation, not the reason of connor existance).

Since we're taking deleted scenes into account:

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_I6UvSj-P8[/ame]

I know Sarah says it, and it isn't a message, but this scene reveals what Sarah believes. What Sarah has believed up till T2. The dream with Reese was her dream, it was her unconsciously telling herself what she believed, as all dreams normally do. Not saying that that was what Cameron meant with it, but some things you just have to suspend disbelief for, you know? It's a movie afterall and continuity errors are bound to happen.
 
Yeah but thats just as far as Kyle Reese, a grunt (ah, no offense), knew.


I always looked at the inconsistencies as things changing as time goes because of things they are altering in the present day. I know that it is more about Hollywood and money to cash in on sequels, but for the sake of justifying it in my head, dates, messages and history kept evolving from movie to movie because of the time travel. It's my fun way of dealing with poor writing. :lol Although in the short lived series, they did touch on alternate paths a little which was interesting.
 
Yeah but thats just as far as Kyle Reese, a grunt (ah, no offense), knew.
no, that's what James Cameron said back then. we talked about what Cameron said earlier and later. you know, today he can say that terminators were just a dream of a drunk guy whose pants were stolen in the beginning of the first movie.

The dream with Reese was her dream, it was her unconsciously telling herself what she believed, as all dreams normally do.
young Connor later in the movie quoting words that he never said and never will... maybe he was a dream, too. of the same drunk guy with stolen pants :)
 
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