Hot Toys - MMS157- Sucker Punch: Babydoll

[teoyangk]

What is the difference between the normal version and extended version?

 

[toylion]

What is the difference between the normal version and extended version?

18 minutes.

 

[Monger]

What is the difference between the normal version and extended version?

I've only seen the extended version, but from what I understand...

Spoiler

For one thing it adds to just about every fight scene as to make it more epic and flesh out the battles. I think it also adds some dance scenes or extends them. You still don't really see Baby Doll dance, but there are various other dance scenes early on.

The major difference however is that prior to Baby Doll getting the lobotomy, she encounters the Doctor in her hallucination-like state, where he is the High Roller that was to be sold to. He has a huge conversation with her concluded that willingly giving her virginity (which is getting the lobotomy in reality) will free her from all the troubles of life and make her a free person or something like that. Baby Doll essentially agrees and is about to kiss him before it goes to the lobotomy. In a sense it makes it so that Baby Doll doesn't seem to be the victim as she wanted to be "free." Either way, it is a ____ing sad ending despite this added scene trying to make it not seem like she got ____ed over big time.

Prior to seeing it, I was under the impression that there was an alternate ending but this is actually more like an entire missing piece of the movie. Even though it's only five or so minutes long (the High Roller scene), it is vital to understanding what the doctor was talking about in reality. He mentions things like how she looked as though she willingly got the lobotomy and that scene explains why she didn't put up a fight. People say it somewhat ruins Baby Doll's character, but all it does is explain an action that wouldn't have made sense otherwise (go through all the trouble of trying to escape just to put no fight against the lobotomy).

So yeah. If that really is what the extended version did, then it is required viewing to fully enjoy the movie in my opinion.

 

[teoyangk]

I've only seen the extended version, but from what I understand...

I only saw the theatrical release in the theatre. I've got to go and get my hands on the external version and watch it again...

 

[Monger]

Yeah get it on Blu Ray. The movie is just beautiful.

 

[HotKing]

I realised the more I looked at the prototype pictures of BabyDoll, the more it grows on me and I actually feel that the HS was pretty good.
It does not strike u immediately at once but the longer u view her HS pictures, the looks are there but definitely not 100%, maybe around 85% at the moment or so.

 

[cr`]

Amber is of Korean descent... & also the first 1/6 Korean (race) figure by HT ... by a Korean face sculptor talent.

except that gentle giant, a non-asian company, also did amber first before sweet pea & rocket. i think this has to do more with whose likeness and license got approved first, and less with an asian company preferring to do asian face first.

Yeah I saw Sucker Punch the other day and the name of the movie says it all. You see the movie wanting hot women doing awesome stuff and that's exactly what you get. You then get totally attached to the cast and get punched in the face in the ending. No band-aids. No medicine. Just one big punch to the face.

The Extended Edition is a necessity. I am shocked people were mad about what it added to the movie. I feel like it helps add to Baby Doll's character. Unfortunately, it also makes the sucker punch hurt all the more.

The more I think about it though the more I like it. It was a very unique movie, flawed, but ultimately very memorable. Thee is also a ridiculous amount of both foreshadowing a very minor symbolism in almost every scene, from the way the camera moves during conversations to the pictures on the walls of most of the rooms. There's so much that there is probably no way you could point all of them out. It's pretty cool when you notice them though. A lot of them are really subtle.

this is the first time i heard the word "subtle" used for sucker punch. it's a non-movie. girls are all great, but they're given nothing to do but look sexy and shoot and stuff.

 

[jayveeeusebio]

Spoiler

For one thing it adds to just about every fight scene as to make it more epic and flesh out the battles. I think it also adds some dance scenes or extends them. You still don't really see Baby Doll dance, but there are various other dance scenes early on.

The major difference however is that prior to Baby Doll getting the lobotomy, she encounters the Doctor in her hallucination-like state, where he is the High Roller that was to be sold to. He has a huge conversation with her concluded that willingly giving her virginity (which is getting the lobotomy in reality) will free her from all the troubles of life and make her a free person or something like that. Baby Doll essentially agrees and is about to kiss him before it goes to the lobotomy. In a sense it makes it so that Baby Doll doesn't seem to be the victim as she wanted to be "free." Either way, it is a ____ing sad ending despite this added scene trying to make it not seem like she got ____ed over big time.

Prior to seeing it, I was under the impression that there was an alternate ending but this is actually more like an entire missing piece of the movie. Even though it's only five or so minutes long (the High Roller scene), it is vital to understanding what the doctor was talking about in reality. He mentions things like how she looked as though she willingly got the lobotomy and that scene explains why she didn't put up a fight. People say it somewhat ruins Baby Doll's character, but all it does is explain an action that wouldn't have made sense otherwise (go through all the trouble of trying to escape just to put no fight against the lobotomy).

So yeah. If that really is what the extended version did, then it is required viewing to fully enjoy the movie in my opinion.

Saw that last part too but only on youtube haha. Thanks for that explanation!

 

[Cereza]

Just saw this HT female body for sale.
https://cgi.ebay.com/Hot-Toys-1-6-T...509?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27bc1152fd

I wish she had that lips

 

[WCK]

Looks more like a Sweet Pea than a Babydoll

 

[Cereza]

Looks more like a Sweet Pea than a Babydoll

It looks like anyone xD But i meant the LIPS.

 

[Monger]

Sometimes, I wish Hot Toys would do more enemies and grunts. For example, with Iron Man 2 we never really got any enemy robot releases. With this movie, I really wish we could get the samurai with the gatling gun and perhaps even some of the other enemies, but I know it would never happen.

I know they don't want to waste time and resources on licenses, but when it comes down to it we always get a lot of action people to pose, but very rarely do we actually get things to pose them with. Having Baby Doll hold a dynamic pose with her katana is nice and all and having her dropkick Bruce Lee is cool, but it would be nice to actually have her be fighting something she fought. That's definitely asking too much though.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Sometimes, I wish Hot Toys would do more enemies and grunts. For example, with Iron Man 2 we never really got any enemy robot releases. With this movie, I really wish we could get the samurai with the gatling gun and perhaps even some of the other enemies, but I know it would never happen.

I know they don't want to waste time and resources on licenses, but when it comes down to it we always get a lot of action people to pose, but very rarely do we actually get things to pose them with. Having Baby Doll hold a dynamic pose with her katana is nice and all and having her dropkick Bruce Lee is cool, but it would be nice to actually have her be fighting something she fought. That's definitely asking too much though.

That is exactly what i want, sometimes the villain is more iconic than the hero, we are sorely lacking in HT villains.

I want:

Doc Ock
Whiplash MK 2
Azazel
Revolver Ocelot

 

[Monger]

I feel like these figures are getting more dynamic these days so that we can have them in fight scenes and dioramas instead of just generic displays, but we still don't have the necessary things for those dioramas and battle scenes. or the most part, we are almost always missing a battle facial expression. Here's a figure that actually has a battle face, but nothing to fight. Kind of lame I suppose, but we are making progress.

 

[Cereza]

I actualy would like a Blue, it would be awesome.

 

[Cereza]

Smt like this.

 

[Lawrence]

Not before any of the girls or Gorski though

 

[Cereza]

 

[jayveeeusebio]

Sometimes, I wish Hot Toys would do more enemies and grunts. For example, with Iron Man 2 we never really got any enemy robot releases. With this movie, I really wish we could get the samurai with the gatling gun and perhaps even some of the other enemies, but I know it would never happen.

I know they don't want to waste time and resources on licenses, but when it comes down to it we always get a lot of action people to pose, but very rarely do we actually get things to pose them with. Having Baby Doll hold a dynamic pose with her katana is nice and all and having her dropkick Bruce Lee is cool, but it would be nice to actually have her be fighting something she fought. That's definitely asking too much though.

I would be cool to have that diorama!

 

[Damien]

time to do dioramas then