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Statues are boring and over priced in most cases, especially for the shotty paint applications. The aged pics were posted to show the actresses neck and to show the differences in scale between the actresses neck in real life and the figure.
then use screen shots. what good are those pics gonna do when comparing to this figure. people's body's change over time. and my point was that these are action figures and therefore have the limitations of action figures including appearence. you can't get every body demension perfect.
 
Well, they did develop a new body for Arnold..so, i guess people can question it.I think the female figures need more selection in body types for 1/6th in general.And its a neck, its her neck and has not changed all that much from when she was younger, i think we got the point of the post.
 
Hi Guyz, we've been talking about the new sculpt on One Sixth Warrior and its possible it could be the angle of the head making it less like Linda. Ive had a go at editing the head in photoshop to make it more like it should be, its not perfect though. Take a look and see what you think.

https://www.onesixthwarriors.com/fo...sarah-connor-terminator-2-judgment-day-5.html

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Sculpt is fine IMO. I still haven't seen a pic with her correct hair color though.
 
Just posted this up at One Sixth Warrior but i'll post here for u guyz as well. This is the edited version of the sculpt i did with the new hair colour. Hair could use some more fine tuning but its kinda close i think. Made the Jaw more compact, less pointy, nose is shorter and slightly wider and re-shaped/tilted the eyes slightly. Small changes but make a huge difference.

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Hi Guyz, we've been talking about the new sculpt on One Sixth Warrior and its possible it could be the angle of the head making it less like Linda. Ive had a go at editing the head in photoshop to make it more like it should be, its not perfect though. Take a look and see what you think.

https://www.onesixthwarriors.com/fo...sarah-connor-terminator-2-judgment-day-5.html

I like the changes you've made. Hopefully HT does a little tweaking to it before production.

HT's is close but not quite right to me. If they don't make any changes I'll probably just display with glasses on since she looks the best like that as is.
 
Reposting these from earlier in the thread (thanks to Buttmunch)...

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A little late to this "new sculpt" party, but...
As folks have been saying, it's better...the paint apps sure help, but that hair is way too thick and dark.

After watching part of the movie again last night, I can see why some are hankering for a "hair down" version opposed to the tied back one HT is providing here...the ponytail is featured only briefly, but as a figure, it's a look that is way easier for them to render, I'm sure.

Still wish they'd revisit the body...but I am looking forward to seeing better shots of the arms. They do look less awkward in the newer shots, but some CU's would be nice...

As for the weapon/outfit choices....as with the T800, I think HT is just trying to create figures of the characters that encompass a more rounded version of the character instead of getting hung up totally on one look...remember how the TS JC figures featured the guns reversed...could've been a natural oversight/mistake or if one wants to add a dollop of cynicism here, it could've been intentional to get folks to pick up both version to create screen-accurate displays of them...

I think that this version of Sarah is good...a couple more tweaks (at least lighten the hair please!) will have her looking fine.

One last question for folks that have other HT figures and can comment on the scale issue: If Sarah is featured on a (mostly) previously released base body, how will her height stack up against a standard male figure? Presumably, the T800 will be taller than the standard male, but Sarah should still be a little shorter...
 
headsculpt definitely needs some fine-tuning. but the end product should turn out well as usual.

i was expecting a little more extras with this figure though. like the "pescadero" inmate costume. she did have the ponytail in that sequence, so that one headsculpt would still work.
 
i was expecting a little more extras with this figure though. like the "pescadero" inmate costume. she did have the ponytail in that sequence, so that one headsculpt would still work.

Good call...and an easy costume (relatively speaking) to render...you listening, HT? :)
 
One last question for folks that have other HT figures and can comment on the scale issue: If Sarah is featured on a (mostly) previously released base body, how will her height stack up against a standard male figure? Presumably, the T800 will be taller than the standard male, but Sarah should still be a little shorter...

Sarah's listed to be about 11 inches, which is about right, female figures usually look significantly shorter against males.

Here's a reference, Elizabeth against hte males in the Pirates line.

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The T-800 is supposed to be about 12.5 inches tall, so he'll be about 1.5 taller than her.
 
What's interesting is when the new pic is shrunk down to a thumbnail, it starts to look even more like the original Sideshow pics. Just check CoolToyReview.com's news story on the new pics. The dark areas under the eyes seem to become more pronounced when the resolution of the pic is downgraded. So I think some of the issues with the likeness are definitely photography-related.

I've gone back and forth with the new sculpt pics and T2 Hamilton pics and I can't find anything wrong with things like the cheeks, chin, nose, or the structure of the face. Any perceived problems do seem to be based on comparing the sculpt with photos that are not at the same angle, hence distorting the appearance of the jawline or nose in the mind of the viewer. View the first pic below for one that seems to match the angle of the straight-on sculpt shot and you can see the chin and nose match up. I also think they have her hair color basically right, but it's missing the cheesy blond highlights that Hamilton appeared to have dyed in.

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If there's any real strangeness to the sculpt, it's with the eyes. Hamilton appears to have bigger eyes in most pics. I think there are possibly two explainable reasons for this. One, the sculpt has intentionally given her a narrow-eyed expression with an intensely furrowed brow, as if she's squinting to aim a gun and pissed off at the same time. This might not be the best choice, since it's like a permanent action pose in the eyes, and one she doesn't use too often. The closest I can find to it online is the below.

https://www.dvdactive.com/images/reviews/screenshot/2009/6/t2skynetbdcap2.jpg

There she is narrowing her eyes from the brightness, although the expression is sadness, not determined anger as in the Hot Toys doll (yeah, I'm not someone who needs to pretend these things aren't dolls). Even here, though, her prominent eyelids remain slightly visible. On the Hot Toys doll, you can't see them at all. The only pic I can find where she's furrowing her brow SO much that the eyelids are obscured is linked below. Except here, she is furrowing her brow while holding her eyes wide open. The furrowed brow while squinting that the doll has is something I can't really find.

https://mikes-images.com/misc/t2/images/t2_mq_275.jpg

Another issue is that Hamilton seems to have more eye makeup on in the movie with longer, thicker lashes (Maybe it's Maybelline?). Look at this linked screencap to see them clearly:

https://mikes-images.com/misc/t2/images/t2_mq_069.jpg

I'm not sure how possible it is to reproduce that in a toy. It might start looking unrealistic if you paint the eyelash lines too long on the face, like on a Barbie doll. And you can't have them physically sticking out that much. I wonder if Hot Toys didn't go with the narrow-eyed expression because they thought it made the lack of long eyelashes less obvious than wide-open eyes.

Her eyebrows definitely also need to be darker and bigger vertically, meaning a thicker line than they are on the face now. Even when Hamilton had her strongest bad peroxide dye job going, her eyebrows remained very dark and only lightly trimmed. The ones on this toy are too narrow in shape from top to bottom and too light in color.

It's also possible the doll's eyes are too small or too sunken in. Hamilton's eyes definitely appear to be bulging out of her face more in most pictures than they seem to be on the doll. I think that's a subtle underlying sculpt issue and not something they will probably be able to fix. It wouldn't be like just narrowing or reshaping the jaw line or something simple.
 
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Sarah's listed to be about 11 inches, which is about right, female figures usually look significantly shorter against males.

Here's a reference, Elizabeth against hte males in the Pirates line.

POTC.jpg


The T-800 is supposed to be about 12.5 inches tall, so he'll be about 1.5 taller than her.

Nice mod on your wee little Jack Sparrow. :lol He'd be shorter than Swan if ya hadn't.
 
Yeah, cause all mothers instantly become old, fat, and saggy as soon as the cord is cut. Everybody knows that.

She was in college in T1 which makes her between 18-22. If John is 10 in T2, she can't be older than 32. That's pretty young still, especially for somebody in great shape.
 
Hey, better that she looks like a mommy than a mummy, as in her recent pics. :eek:

Hamilton herself was 28 in 1984 and 35 in 1991.
 
Hey, better that she looks like a mommy than a mummy, as in her recent pics. :eek:

With what she's getting in alimony from Jim, do you really think she cares? :lol

In the "Top 10: Most Expensive Divorce Settlements" she's rated #8:
Number 8
James Cameron & Linda Hamilton -- (more than) $50 million
James Cameron is the visionary filmmaker who gave the world grand Hollywood spectacles like the first two Terminator movies, in which Linda Hamilton starred, True Lies , and Titanic . The romance between the two reportedly began on the set of T2 in 1991, although they only got married in July 1997.

But at that time, Titanic was released and Cameron apparently spent more time with one of his stars, Suzy Amis, than with his wife. During their 17-month marriage, which produced a daughter, they were separated for eight months. Cameron, whom Hamilton describes as an "absolutely miserable, miserable, unhappy man," was forced to give her more than half his revenues from Titanic -- over $50 million -- in 1999.
https://www.askmen.com/top_10/entertainment_60/74_top_10_list.html
 
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