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Maybe he didn’t wanna get vaporised by a bunch of first order ships. I honestly don’t get how transporting yourself through the force onto the otherwise of the galaxy isn’t cool. Nah just going there and getting murdered is way cooler. Instead of mind ****ing everyone, then looking off into the binary sunset just like his journey began. Yeah that’s totally lame.

Do gotta agree with this.

Didn’t like TLJ overall as a film, but I liked Luke’s character arc and liked that he went out on his own terms without getting struck down by anyone, yet, likely still knew his actions would be the death/end of him, so it was still self-sacrificial. And having him stare at the binary sunset to end his journey, just as it had began, I felt was very fitting.

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Do gotta agree with this.

Didn’t like TLJ overall as a film, but I liked Luke’s character arc and liked that he went out on his own terms without getting struck down by anyone, yet, likely still knew his actions would be the death/end of him, so it was still self-sacrificial. And having him stare at the binary sunset to end his journey, just as it had began, I felt was very fitting.

The wider question I had is why Luke had to "go out" at all. Hamill was great - as I've said before, partnered with a young lead, Luke could have been a wizened, badass co-lead for a new trilogy instead of a one film mentor-must-die guy. I would love to have seen an older, warrior-wizard Luke's (so different to OT Luke) journey through the SW universe. Oh well, what's done is done - suck it up.:lol
 
The wider question I had is why Luke had to "go out" at all. Hamill was great - as I've said before, partnered with a young lead, Luke could have been a wizened, badass co-lead for a new trilogy instead of a one film mentor-must-die guy. I would love to have seen an older, warrior-wizard Luke's (so different to OT Luke) journey through the SW universe. Oh well, what's done is done - suck it up.:lol

Gandalf style in LOTR?
 
But... so cool he ended up "murdered" anyway?

How is not going there and getting murdered way cooler if the result is exactly the same (saves the day but dies doing it) and if he's actually there he also takes on all that risk. That's inspiration for future rebels, whereas holo-phoning it in feels less so. Maybe it's clever what he does, but it really doesn't feel brave - and heroes certainly need both but bravery is the more valued attribute. And actually showing up to the fight also gets hero points.

I guess it hinges on this very unclear/poorly explained idea of "you can die doing the holo-prjection thing" - but it's pretty unclear and you don't really sense the risk of it before and during the process.

And even as a clever bit it just feels a bit virtual reality Madden NFL vs actually running that yard line if you know what I mean. Like it was a cool goal and all but he was never really even there to begin with, so where's the "aspirational" aspect for the kid watching it?

Well he still gave his life either way, and if the whole point was to buy time for the Resistance to escape then that wouldn't have worked too well if he were obliterated by the AT-ATs in the first few seconds of his big showdown with Kylo. He's not invincible after all, and I doubt even Yoda would have been able to withstand an attack like that.

As for it being aspirational to a new generation, it's still the legendary Luke Skywalker sacrificing himself in a showdown with the entire First Order, and using the most epic Jedi Mind Trick ever to make them look like complete fools so that the Resistance would have time to escape and live on. Which seems like a pretty badass move to me.
 
Well he still gave his life either way, and if the whole point was to buy time for the Resistance to escape then that wouldn't have worked too well if he were obliterated by the AT-ATs in the first few seconds of his big showdown with Kylo. He's not invincible after all, and I doubt even Yoda would have been able to withstand an attack like that.

As for it being aspirational to a new generation, it's still the legendary Luke Skywalker sacrificing himself in a showdown with the entire First Order, and using the most epic Jedi Mind Trick ever to make them look like complete fools so that the Resistance would have time to escape and live on. Which seems like a pretty badass move to me.

There is a poetry to how Rian wrote Lukes exit, but it should have been saved for the third movie.
 
I can kind of agree with that. While I love the overall story arc for Luke in the ST, it does feel a bit strange to see him killed off in the second movie, after we had barely got to know him again.
 
The wider question I had is why Luke had to "go out" at all.

There is a poetry to how Rian wrote Lukes exit, but it should have been saved for the third movie.

I can agree with that as well. I wish Luke would have been around for the entire trilogy, but even then, still would have liked to have seen him go out in a similar fashion.
 
There is a poetry to how Rian wrote Lukes exit, but it should have been saved for the third movie.

I agree with this, but I would also have been more than ok with Luke walking off into the sunset at the end of IX to make reoccurring appearances through XII. Just seems like a super missed opportunity to show the new Jedi in action. Something different from the hero looses the mentor trope. He [Ryan] seemed like he was trying to be SO different in his story telling to do something so predictable at the end was just "meh".
 
Well he still gave his life either way, and if the whole point was to buy time for the Resistance to escape then that wouldn't have worked too well if he were obliterated by the AT-ATs in the first few seconds of his big showdown with Kylo. He's not invincible after all, and I doubt even Yoda would have been able to withstand an attack like that.

As for it being aspirational to a new generation, it's still the legendary Luke Skywalker sacrificing himself in a showdown with the entire First Order, and using the most epic Jedi Mind Trick ever to make them look like complete fools so that the Resistance would have time to escape and live on. Which seems like a pretty badass move to me.

To be fair - he only stood (well, virtually at least) in front of the ATATs because he wasn't really there. If he actually showed up, he would be stupid to do that.

And those Resistance people watching didn't watch "the legendary Luke Skywalker sacrificing himself in a showdown with the entire First Order" - it was all just a trick. There was no showdown (and that was the subversion RJ wanted) - actual bravery was set aside for cleverness, and Luke only "sacrificed" - ie died - because he was stupid (*see below.)

And it doesn't make the First order look like fools - because the whole Resistance is standing there watching all ga-ga as well (until it's randomly suggested it's a ruse.) Luke looks 100% real so not sure how something so convincing makes the FO look stupid.

And because the whole "holo-projection can kill you" idea is so poorly set up, we have no real context to how much "sacrifice" Luke really made, or how brave he was to do it. I mean it's silly that the inference is the longer you do the projection (or the further you project?) the more deadly it becomes for the user - but then why does he stop to have a long casual chat with Leia if he's inching closer to death with every second? This just makes no sense, yet its how we're supposed to judge Luke's final act.

*Wouldn't Luke behave as if he was holding his breath underwater? Like every second counts. So why stop to have a chat? And why not tell Leia what his plan is? Why not tell the Resistance people up front so they could make a run for it as soon as he walked out to face the FO instead of having them watch like idiots, wasting valuable time? If he had done all this, he might have been able to do the trick, save everyone AND STILL SURVIVE!

So it's not even the Crait sequence itself, but the whole lead-up and context being so totally unclear and contradictory (in terms of rules that help us understand what's happening and the stakes) that makes it so problematic. And that's before you consider that this force-projection idea unravels many aspects of the OT (like why Ben, Vader and Yoda never did it when they could/should have,) just like the TLJ lightspeed-as-weapon inconsistency that gets SOOO much play on youtube.


I dunno - I think the best way to approach the Crait ending in TLJ is to turn the sound down, blur your eyes and thinking a bit and just enjoy the visuals - then it works. Luke facing ATATs, scuffle with a bad guy in black, bad guy outsmarted, good people escaping, meditating Luke dies before twin suns. And we got our good death for Luke.:dunno:lol

Gandalf style in LOTR?

Not sure on that - I don't remember much from the LOTR trilogy.:lol

I can kind of agree with that. While I love the overall story arc for Luke in the ST, it does feel a bit strange to see him killed off in the second movie, after we had barely got to know him again.

He wasn't just killed off in the second movie, he was ONLY really in the second movie - his screen time in TFA is literally seconds with not a word spoken.:dunno I mean Luke Skywalker... is only in ONE film in the trilogy that follows ROTJ? wtf?:lol
 
I feel like I have so much to say in response to these critiques, but I don't want to derail this thread any further than it has. But all I can really add without hopefully inciting anything is that I really enjoyed Luke's character and it was a tremendously satisfying conclusion for me. There's several things I could critique TLJ for but one thing it nailed without a doubt was every scene involving Rey or Luke or Kylo.

That being said, I've been thinking about this one for a while. My SW Hot Toys already outnumber my non SW figures, and I feel kind of weird about it because I don't even like Star Wars THAT much, but I can't stop thinking about how much I enjoyed Luke's portrayal here. Been trying to decide between him & Neo for a hot minute, all these fantastic pictures have me leaning towards Luke though & maybe just getting John Wick to have some Keanu in my collection.
 
Luke was Darth Mauled. :lecture


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That name was sooo perfect for the 1990's - Darth Mall.:lol Even the tattoo overkill was GL just knowing where the culture was heading.

I feel like I have so much to say in response to these critiques, but I don't want to derail this thread any further than it has. But all I can really add without hopefully inciting anything is that I really enjoyed Luke's character and it was a tremendously satisfying conclusion for me. There's several things I could critique TLJ for but one thing it nailed without a doubt was every scene involving Rey or Luke or Kylo.

That being said, I've been thinking about this one for a while. My SW Hot Toys already outnumber my non SW figures, and I feel kind of weird about it because I don't even like Star Wars THAT much, but I can't stop thinking about how much I enjoyed Luke's portrayal here. Been trying to decide between him & Neo for a hot minute, all these fantastic pictures have me leaning towards Luke though & maybe just getting John Wick to have some Keanu in my collection.

In all seriousness - if it works for you, great. I kind of envy you. I so wish it did for me. It'd be a whole lot easier too.:lol
 
The original idea came from superimposing a circuit board on the face of a member of the art department.

In the DVD featurette, GL tells the art crew to think of the most terrifying thing ever, they came up with a "clown." Never heard the circuit inspiration one before, but makes sense.
 
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