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[holtrax]

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enjoy

 

[BazookaJoe]

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Yeah I think to look at it logically you are right Jimmie, but it goes to show how well written the first film is that you can come up with plenty of theories to excuse what could be a little bit of a plot hole

Plus like BMD says it leads to a great scene and for me fits his progression from a calculating infiltrator to a human wrecking ball;

1) the phone book killings where he has a modicum of stealth and cunning and tries to be as efficient as possible
2) tech noir where he "goes loud" as he has zeroed in on his target and doesn't reckon on Reese interrupting his plans
3) the attack on the Police station where he knows he will draw attention but almost sees it his last chance for an assault
And then 4) the tanker truck chase where subtlety is definitely out the window and he almost has a sense of desperation at having failed to kill his target so many times

 

[a-dev]

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https://downfallofterminator.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/all-that-is-wrong-with-terminator-3.html

Long read but it emphasises just how pointless and stupid T3 was (apologies if you're a fan)

In runs "Kate", much to General Brewster's surprise. Before she can say anything else, the T-850 uses an HK UMP to start dumping bullets into "Kate", who is really the T-X...............Our hero, the T-850 has just saved General Brewster's life. Good job!...............................The real Kate and John Connor run into the room, with Kate yelling at her dad to get away from the T-X. General Brewster decides it's a much better idea to remain confused, while everyone else decides that being in the same room with a leather-clad, machinegun-toting buffoon may be a potentially fatal idea. Meanwhile, the T-X reforms and takes aim at General Brewster. the T-850 is so pleased with itself at having saved General Brewster's life, it forgets that keeping General Brewster alive is an ongoing process. Since Kate didn't order the T-850 to save her father a second time, it just stands there, forcing Kate to resort to screaming at her dad again in a futile effort to save him. John Connor decides to emulate the T-850 and also decides to do nothing to save General Brewster............Still stunned by the stupidity of the script, General Brewster does nothing, allowing the T-X to shoot him several times, but considerately avoids hitting any immediately lethal areas in order to allow him to help the protagonists before dying.

Now that it's too late to save General Brewster, the T-850 decides to return to action, shooting the T-X several times with a grenade launcher. Surprisingly enough, none of the grenades explode at this short range. Ironically, whether by design or by accident, they ended up mimicking real-world behavior of grenades fired at close range, even though this movie seems to pride itself in avoiding realism. The T-X is knocked into a conveniently located vent that is as flimsy as it is gigantic, causing the T-X to be inconvenienced long enough for some character drama.

General Brewster is dying, so naturally the T-850 decides that this would be the perfect time for a mood-breaking unfunny one-liner.

It is a long read (and a frustrating read if you're in work) but it has a lot of gems like this^

 

[BadMuthaDude]

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Yeah I think to look at it logically you are right Jimmie, but it goes to show how well written the first film is that you can come up with plenty of theories to excuse what could be a little bit of a plot hole

Plus like BMD says it leads to a great scene and for me fits his progression from a calculating infiltrator to a human wrecking ball;

1) the phone book killings where he has a modicum of stealth and cunning and tries to be as efficient as possible
2) tech noir where he "goes loud" as he has zeroed in on his target and doesn't reckon on Reese interrupting his plans
3) the attack on the Police station where he knows he will draw attention but almost sees it his last chance for an assault
And then 4) the tanker truck chase where subtlety is definitely out the window and he almost has a sense of desperation at having failed to kill his target so many times

Thr cool thing about the police station is that the assault was plan B. First, he tried to see if he could gain access to her simply by politely asking. They gave him the option to wait but he was probably well aware that his facade wouldn't hold up if he was sitting in a police station, especially when his disguise is damaged and starting to die. He is fully functional again after the repairs so a full out assault on the police is now a reasonable option.

 

[a-dev]

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It is a long read (and a frustrating read if you're in work) but it has a lot of gems like this^

Still haven't finished it. **** me.

 

[BadMuthaDude]

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Does it mention the most aggravating thing about the T-X? The "Haha remember the Terminator said Sarah Connor? I'm going to do that for everyone! Hell I'll ask two names to one person when he answers the door cause haha Terminator did it once!" I think they dropped the T-X's chip when she was being manufactured.

 

[karamazov80]

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Does it mention the most aggravating thing about the T-X? The "Haha remember the Terminator said Sarah Connor? I'm going to do that for everyone! Hell I'll ask two names to one person when he answers the door cause haha Terminator did it once!" I think they dropped the T-X's chip when she was being manufactured.

I'm sorry that you guys remember so much from that terrible movie. I saw it once on cable. Never again.

 

[BadMuthaDude]

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I'm sorry that you guys remember so much from that terrible movie. I saw it once on cable. Never again.

I saw it twice in the theatre cause Arnold. In spite of my annoyances it still gets put in the DVD player maybe once for every 5 viewings of T1 or T2 and I'd be a liar if I said I wouldn't buy figures based on it.

Cause Arnold.

Who's pumped for Sabotage?

 

[BazookaJoe]

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Does it mention the most aggravating thing about the T-X? The "Haha remember the Terminator said Sarah Connor? I'm going to do that for everyone! Hell I'll ask two names to one person when he answers the door cause haha Terminator did it once!" I think they dropped the T-X's chip when she was being manufactured.

"Upon hearing a car pull up, William "Bill" Anderson fears that his mom is home, and rushes to intercept as he has everyone hide the beer. Of course, his mom probably wouldn't be suspicious at all of a house full of kids with alcohol on their breaths, because if there are no beer cans sitting around, the drunk kids couldn't have been drinking, right? Anyway, "Bill" runs to the door, and upon opening it discovers the T-X. The T-X apparently thinks it's at another restaurant, because again it rattles off only the names of its targets, as if it were ordering food items from a menu. Now, despite it being a post-9/11 world, it's nighttime, he's drinking underage, his friends are drinking underage, and he has no idea who this woman at the front door is, "Bill" decides to just tell the T-X not only who he is, but also where his sister can be found?! Come on! There are a lot of reasons for this kid to worry about being in trouble, so honesty is obviously not the order of the day. Maybe he should find out who this person is first, so he can get an idea of just how much trouble he might be about to get into."

 

[karamazov80]

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Who's pumped for Sabotage?

 

[BadMuthaDude]

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"Upon hearing a car pull up, William "Bill" Anderson fears that his mom is home, and rushes to intercept as he has everyone hide the beer. Of course, his mom probably wouldn't be suspicious at all of a house full of kids with alcohol on their breaths, because if there are no beer cans sitting around, the drunk kids couldn't have been drinking, right? Anyway, "Bill" runs to the door, and upon opening it discovers the T-X. The T-X apparently thinks it's at another restaurant, because again it rattles off only the names of its targets, as if it were ordering food items from a menu. Now, despite it being a post-9/11 world, it's nighttime, he's drinking underage, his friends are drinking underage, and he has no idea who this woman at the front door is, "Bill" decides to just tell the T-X not only who he is, but also where his sister can be found?! Come on! There are a lot of reasons for this kid to worry about being in trouble, so honesty is obviously not the order of the day. Maybe he should find out who this person is first, so he can get an idea of just how much trouble he might be about to get into."

Brilliant. You almost expect her to turn to the camera and say, "Cause you know, Sarah Connor? Remember? Wink wink."

 

[DiFabio]

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2. I thought the leg injury the Terminator was looking for was a rod that was put in Sarah's leg after a skating injury. I might not be remembering it correctly but I don't recall it having to do with endo shrapnel.

One draft it was surgical pins for her leg from the wound. One treatment it was steel screws from a skating acident (like you said). Another draft it was the actual Endo shrapnel (that she couldn't pull out).

Final film ended up dropping them all, but they came close to filming the T-800 knifing the Sarah Connor victims to check for the latter. The candy bar scene too. That small touch would have added to the "Phone Book Killer" characteristic/trait, the trademark leg cut. Kyle Reese would have also elaborated to Silberman and the rest of the station about how it's a wound the Terminator is searching for but hasn't occurred yet . . .

 

[Rambler]

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here:

Wisher wrote that novelisation together with Randall Frake. it used lots of original ideas, including the idea to destroy Cyberdyne, the two men sent into 1984 (one of them died being materialised inside a ladder) and many others.
after T2 same Randall Frake - now without Wisher - wrote T2 book. it also used unfilmed features, but the only big one i've noticed was a prolongued Future War story, drawn but not filmed by Cameron (pity!), all the rest was similar to the movie enough.

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thanks P.!!

 

[a-dev]

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https://downfallofterminator.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/all-that-is-wrong-with-terminator-3.html

Long read but it emphasises just how pointless and stupid T3 was (apologies if you're a fan)

Finally finished it. Well, that was the longest and most comprehensive ripping apart of a film I've ever read. And utterly deserved. T3 is truly awful and in so many more ways than I even realised myself. I believe I will never watch it again.

 

[The Skull]

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Finally finished it. Well, that was the longest and most comprehensive ripping apart of a film I've ever read. And utterly deserved. T3 is truly awful and in so many more ways than I even realised myself. I believe I will never watch it again.

Agreed, I skimmed though it myself and have to agree with most of it too. Let us never bring up T3 again, like evar

 

[Mr. EcKo]

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Why does this thread say "Article"
Kara can you change it to "Action Figure" ??

 

[DiFabio]

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While I like Titanic, I really wish Cameron didn't **** around with it until he made a third (and final) Terminator film that depicted the future war, before (or after) the events of Terminator and T2.

See 1997 - 2029. Skynet, Judgment Day, the holocaust, the extermination camps, John Connor turning the tide, meeting Reese and escaping the camps. The resistance. The Terminators. Both sides waging war. Infiltrators. Skynet's facility. The time displacement machine. Skynet losing. Skynet sending back the T-800 and T-1000. John sending back Reese and the reprogrammed T-800. Basically, everything that was cut from the first two films. All the actors wouldn't have been much older (adult Connor and Reese especially) and the film technology plus Stan Winston would have made it completely doable.

 

[BazookaJoe]

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Finally finished it. Well, that was the longest and most comprehensive ripping apart of a film I've ever read. And utterly deserved. T3 is truly awful and in so many more ways than I even realised myself. I believe I will never watch it again.

Agreed, I skimmed though it myself and have to agree with most of it too. Let us never bring up T3 again, like evar

I have only seen the entire film twice and before I read that I'd forgotten how bad it actually is. I've still never seen Salvation because of how much I hated T3 but I'm assuming I'm not missing much?

 

[The Skull]

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Why does this thread say "Article"
Kara can you change it to "Action Figure" ??

OMG yes, I haven't said anything about this but its extremely annoying, why, well because everytime someone in my friends list comments and I try to look at what there saying I get re-directed to the first page of the article thread Also everytime I post it does the same damn thing, very frustrating

 

[BadMuthaDude]

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One draft it was surgical pins for her leg from the wound. One treatment it was steel screws from a skating acident (like you said). Another draft it was the actual Endo shrapnel (that she couldn't pull out).

Final film ended up dropping them all, but they came close to filming the T-800 knifing the Sarah Connor victims to check for the latter. The candy bar scene too. That small touch would have added to the "Phone Book Killer" characteristic/trait, the trademark leg cut. Kyle Reese would have also elaborated to Silberman and the rest of the station about how it's a wound the Terminator is searching for but hasn't occurred yet . . .

Ah, I see. I've only read the one draft. I think it was a feature on the DVD.