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Not only did the blueprints bother me, but the idea that Batman could punch through the floor of the car was right up there with it. Is it made of cardboard? So much for the idea of armor under the car. Later when he tears his mask like rubber all of Batman's tech felt so cheap. Bruce isn't a crimefighter, he's a cosplayer!

Returns never felt full baked to me. It seemed more like a sketchbook of cool Furst and Burton designs than a cohesive story (and on THAT level it works). It has some great looking stuff. But it never worked as a sequel story for me.

I am fond of Keaton and Pfeiffer's performances. She clearly enjoyed playing her role and steals every scene she's in, and she was so easy on the eyes....

Yeah I do agree on the car floor too..... what the hell were they thinking...... Batman has no super strength to be able to do that.
 
Yeah I do agree on the car floor too..... what the hell were they thinking...... Batman has no super strength to be able to do that.

Yeah, not to mention the fact that we're supposed to believe this is the same car that bounces bullets off of it's windshield, and drove itself through an exploding factory.

In the floorboard breaking scene, I remember thinking "Don't reach too far down!" wouldn't want Batman to break his fingers on the asphalt speeding by...but considering what his hand apparently just punched through, that's not his concern.

If he really wanted to, he could have just stomped right through to the ground with his dues-ex-machina super-strength and stopped the Batmobile...with Flintstones style braking.
 
Yeah, not hating on 89 (or even Returns for that matter), just mentioning a couple of silly points in that sequence...the Nolan films have their own moments too.
 
Of what? Costume and set design? Marketing? :monkey3

Well......everything :lol

Yeah, not hating on 89 (or even Returns for that matter), just mentioning a couple of silly points in that sequence...the Nolan films have their own moments too.

I love Nolan's movie just as much as the next Nolan sheep but you want to see a scene just as silly as mentioned about Returns.

BB when Batman turns off his dinky Tumbler lights and all of a sudden the cops lose him :slap

Or I don't know, in TDK Rachel falling off a high rise and not a scratch. :slap
 
And of course, best Batmobile ever made :yess:

That one I actually believe that both cars are appropriate for their specific movies.

89 car would look stupid in Nolan's world and Tumbler the same in 89.

They fit their movies just perfect, I love them both.

That being said :lol

If I could only own one, it would have to be the 89.

So yeah, I guess you're right afterall :lol

But I do love me some Tumbler action though!

Both are bad ass., you know, like me and void :rock
 
Heh, I can actually suspend disbelief enough on both of those points.

A matte black vehicle on a dark stretch of highway...with an engine that can run in silent-mode....

And Rachel's fall...if Batman cradled her the whole way down, and his cape slowed the fall and his armor absorbed the impact...as long as she didnt get into contact with any glass or metal on the way down, there is nothing that could have scratched or injured her (provided Batman didnt grab her with his gaunlet talons facing her).

I thought you were going to mention one of the default go to error's with Begins...a microwave gun that doesn't vaporize the 70% water of humans.
 
I love this video :rotfl

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Sigh...how long until this becomes a full-on Burton/Keaton fanboy vs Nolan/Bale on debate??

Honestly, there's things from both series I like. To get a bit back on topic, there is no denying the iconic, sleek, style and "Batman" look and gadgetry in the design of the Burtonverse Batmobile.
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....and there's no denying the sheer brutality of the Nolanverse Batmobile. :pfft:


But seriously, I love both. We don't have to pick one! :1-1:
 
Sigh...how long until this becomes a full-on Burton/Keaton fanboy vs Nolan/Bale on debate??

Honestly, there's things from both series I like. To get a bit back on topic, there is no denying the iconic, sleek, style and "Batman" look and gadgetry in the design of the Burtonverse Batmobile.
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....and there's no denying the sheer brutality of the Nolanverse Batmobile. :pfft:


But seriously, I love both. We don't have to pick one! :1-1:

I agree, both are great.

89 Batmobile > Tumbler

:chase
 
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And Rachel's fall...if Batman cradled her the whole way down, and his cape slowed the fall and his armor absorbed the impact...as long as she didnt get into contact with any glass or metal on the way down, there is nothing that could have scratched or injured her (provided Batman didnt grab her with his gaunlet talons facing her).

**Crash!**

Batman: Oww, that hurt! I'm wearing 80 pounds of body armor and padding and that still really sucked! Good thing I had a helmet and neck protection too! Gonna be sore tomorrow! I wish I had thought of my grappling hook during that fall. What was I thinking? I use that thing all the time but it just slipped my mind today. Silly me! Duh, right? That would have really helped! We could have slowly lowered, maybe even stopped altogether. Look, I even had it loaded! At least we landed on a car instead of a sidewalk. Whew! Still gonna need a sec to catch my breath. That sucked. I don't ever want to do that again! How you doin' Rachel? You're kinda quiet over there..... Ewww. Well, nothing a couple dozen good surgeons can't fix! You're gonna make a good wife for Harvey. A tip for the wedding: Wear a vail.
 
**Crash!**

Batman: Oww, that hurt! I'm wearing 80 pounds of body armor and padding and that still really sucked! Good thing I had a helmet and neck protection too! Gonna be sore tomorrow! I wish I had thought of my grappling hook during that fall. What was I thinking? I use that thing all the time but it just slipped my mind today. Silly me! Duh, right? That would have really helped! We could have slowly lowered, maybe even stopped altogether. Look, I even had it loaded! At least we landed on a car instead of a sidewalk. Whew! Still gonna need a sec to catch my breath. That sucked. I don't ever want to do that again! How you doin' Rachel? You're kinda quiet over there..... Ewww. Well, nothing a couple dozen good surgeons can't fix! You're gonna make a good wife for Harvey. A tip for the wedding: Wear a vail.

:rotfl Yeah, I can see that too.
 
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