How do YOU feel about Hot Toys re-releases?

[work13]

I hate to say it, but I think it kind of boils down to a conflict between the rich and poor. The Rich are getting pissed at what hot toys is doing and the poor couldn't be happier.

For example, the collectors with a lot of money, may tend to collect for Value\investment because they can afford to( i.e. buying multiples of one fig that they like in hopes that it's value will go up in the near future, paying crazy secondary market prices for old figures that they missed, etc...). Also, I don't doubt that they also collect for enjoyment of the figures as well. Let's call them the type "A" collectors.

The second type of collectors are the ones who don't have a lot of money. You won't see them buying multiples of a figure that they like, or pay crazy secondary market prices for grail figures that they've missed because it just doesn't make financial sense for them to do so. As a result, they collect only for the enjoyment of the figures they can afford -let's call them type "B".

For The type "A" collector, if hot toys continues this new trend of re-releasing old figures, and flooding the market with not so "limited" figures, the type "A" collector will be pissed. Spending $1000 for a Mark I only to find out that they can get a better and newer version for $200 just probably won't sit very well with them. Call it bad timing or whatever, that Type "A" collector will be pissed at hot toys. Also, buying multiples of the "limited" shadow predator, only to find out that A: hot toys has flooded the market with them, B: it still hasn't sold out and C: the retail prices for them are now starting to drop, doesn't help in shining a favorable light on hot toys either from the type A collector perspective.
So in sum, the rich collectors are pissed at hot toys new tatics. This senario is similar to what the comic book companies did during the 90s to the type "A" comic book collectors.

The type "B" collector will be happy that re-releases are coming out for the older figures that they missed because they can't afford to pay the crazy secondary market prices for those older figures. For example, the're not going to pay $800 for the old Mark I because they can't afford it. So a new and improved re-release of that figure for 1/4 the price is a sight for sore eyes for the Type "B" collector. Also the type "B" collector won't buy multiples of one figure because A: they probably cant afford it, and B: they don't feel the need to do so because one is good enough and they are not collecting for investment purposes. So naturally, the type "B" collectors are happy that hot toys is doing these re-releases. They welcome it. To them, hot toys is giving them a second chance. Who doesn't like second chances?

My point is - it's almost like class warfare between the Rich collectors and the poor collectors when judging Hot Toys actions. IMO, what you will soon see happening is that the Type "A" collectors will turn into type "B" collectors. Soon the rich collectors will figure out that hot toys is now just flooding the market with their figures, and thus, it will no longer make investment sense to buy 2 or 3 of the same figure in hopes of them rising in value. Also, Type "A" collectors will no longer try and go after the grail figures that they've missed because they realize that Hot Toys will simply re-release them in the near future. So the Type A collector, will simply buy the figures they like, and just buy one of them instead of multiples. Also they will wait patiently for the figures that they missed to be re-released. Basically Rich (Type A) collectors will adopt the habits of the modest income Type B collectors -asuming hot toys continues in the dirction that they are going. (Please note: I realize that the Type A and B collector senario is a slight over-simplification of the many different type of collectors out there. I just used these two extreme examples to make a point: The people with a lot of money hate what hot toys is doing and the more modest income people like what hot toys is doing) Sorry for the long response guys.

 

[thenammagazine]

^^^ A very naive perspective. It's not that black and white. I'm far from rich and disagree with what HT's doing. I missed out on the AVP predators and don't expect HT to reproduce them. If I want them I'll save up and buy them. I don't have some misguided sense of self entitlement thinking I'm owed them. Especially at MSRP. It was, and should still be, part of what it means to be a collector, saving up and chasing after those grail pieces.

Or that the man in the gif got his ass handed to him by a smartass?

Financially as well. Didn't he get into it with Letterman over usage of The Late Show footage in his mockumentary?

 

[devilof76]

I dunno. I was only referring to the narcissitic punk with delusions of power that got stabbed in the throat with his own dagger.

 

[Bo Shrek]

I missed on the Godfather.
Do I want it in my collection....YES!
Will I pay secondary prices.......NO!
Will I make due with the McFarlane version...NO!!!
Will I be happy if HT re-releases....YES!

 

[thenammagazine]

I dunno. I was only referring to the narcissitic punk with delusions of power that got stabbed in the throat with his own dagger.

But Marcus was a badass, not a smartass.

 

[work13]

^^^ A very naive perspective. It's not that black and white. I'm far from rich and disagree with what HT's doing. I missed out on the AVP predators and don't expect HT to reproduce them. If I want them I'll save up and buy them. I don't have some misguided sense of self entitlement thinking I'm owed them. Especially at MSRP. It was, and should still be, part of what it means to be a collector, saving up and chasing after those grail pieces.



Financially as well. Didn't he get into it with Letterman over usage of The Late Show footage in his mockumentary?

Sometimes you have to make things black and white to make a clear point. there are many different type of collectors and it is a over-simplification as I noted in the last paragraph. Making things black and white help to make it easier to digest and to get points across and leaves no room for mis-understanding or mis-interpretation.

 

[mojo customz]

i do not feel anymore, pretty much numb with all the regular releases, can not even describe the feeling to the re-release -----uncomfortibly numb----see can not even spell--------------

 

[Blkinterceptor]

I missed on the Godfather.
Do I want it in my collection....YES!
Will I pay secondary prices.......NO!
Will I make due with the McFarlane version...NO!!!
Will I be happy if HT re-releases....YES!

Absolutely... you, I and 80% maybe even 90% of the people who voted here will enjoy all of HT re-releases

 

[thenammagazine]

Sometimes you have to make things black and white to make a clear point. there are many different type of collectors and it is a over-simplification as I noted in the last paragraph. Making things black and white help to make it easier to digest and to get points across and leaves no room for mis-understanding or mis-interpretation.

Disagree. It's that type of thinking that pigeonholes people into being seen as douchebags regardless of which side of the fence they're on. That's not to say that there aren't douchebags on both sides, with elitist scumbags who buy for the LE aspect and resale potential and self-entitled morons who feel they're owed everything for nothing. But I think the majority of us here on the "LE" side fit in the gray area.

 

[YoNoSe]

I guess I'm not much of a collector because it's not something I care about at all. I'm not concerned about anyone else's collection except happy to know they are enjoying it.

 

[Blkinterceptor]

You do realize, in ancient Rome, the thumbs down meant the opposite of what you're implying, right "professor?"

Out of curiosity, what is it that I was implying?

 

[Blkinterceptor]

Disagree. It's that type of thinking that pigeonholes people into being seen as douchebags regardless of which side of the fence they're on. That's not to say that there aren't douchebags on both sides, with elitist scumbags who buy for the LE aspect and resale potential and self-entitled morons who feel they're owed everything for nothing. But I think the majority of us here on the "LE" side fit in the gray area.

Sounds like your the "LE", scumbag

No one feels like their owed anything this is not our decision nor is it yours for HT to re-release, its happening and that's all there is to it. You don't like it then do something about it.

 

[work13]

Disagree. It's that type of thinking that pigeonholes people into being seen as douchebags regardless of which side of the fence they're on. That's not to say that there aren't douchebags on both sides, with elitist scumbags who buy for the LE aspect and resale potential and self-entitled morons who feel they're owed everything for nothing. But I think the majority of us here on the "LE" side fit in the gray area.

Actually, according to your tone, you do agree to a certain extent. Making things black and white makes things clear cut. According to your own argument, You're looking like a ********* right now from the tone in your own posts. I never once used the words above highlighted in bold to make a point. You may claim you're in a grey area, but your tone and how you say things is very black and white. There are no greys about your opinion and tone. That's why you always rub people the wrong way. It's not what you say, it's HOW you say it. The TONE in HOW you say it is very black and white. You don't have to use words like scumbag and morons to make a grey/nuetral point. You still disagree?! Count your infractions

 

[Blkinterceptor]

Careful you might make precious angry and she might retaliate...

Actually, according to your tone, you do agree to a certain extent. Making things black and white makes things clear cut. According to your own argument, You're looking like a ********* right now from the tone in your own posts. I never once used the words above highlighted in bold to make a point. You may claim you're in a grey area, but your tone and how you say things is very black and white. There are no greys about your opinion and tone. That's why you always rub people the wrong way. It's not what you say, it's HOW you say it. The TONE in HOW you say it is very black and white. You don't have to use words like scumbag and morons to make a grey/nuetral point. You still disagree?! Count your infractions

 

[devilof76]

You wanna keep the trolling down to a dull roar? Thanks.

But Marcus was a badass, not a smartass.

Maximus was much smarter than Commodus.

 

[316what]

My point is - it's almost like class warfare between the Rich collectors and the poor collectors when judging Hot Toys actions. IMO, what you will soon see happening is that the Type "A" collectors will turn into type "B" collectors. Soon the rich collectors will figure out that hot toys is now just flooding the market with their figures, and thus, it will no longer make investment sense to buy 2 or 3 of the same figure in hopes of them rising in value. Also, Type "A" collectors will no longer try and go after the grail figures that they've missed because they realize that Hot Toys will simply re-release them in the near future. So the Type A collector, will simply buy the figures they like, and just buy one of them instead of multiples. Also they will wait patiently for the figures that they missed to be re-released. Basically Rich (Type A) collectors will adopt the habits of the modest income Type B collectors -asuming hot toys continues in the dirction that they are going. (Please note: I realize that the Type A and B collector senario is a slight over-simplification of the many different type of collectors out there. I just used these two extreme examples to make a point: The people with a lot of money hate what hot toys is doing and the more modest income people like what hot toys is doing) Sorry for the long response guys.

Here's the fault in your over-simplified as you call it scenario.

The Type A's were buying multiples (for whatever reason), now they're not. Thus Hot Toys will have a harder time selling through their products and may have to resort to discounting them to clear inventory.

In the end, this hurts everyone. Hot Toys bottom line shrinks, less products are made, people are laid off and Types A and B no longer get to purchase Hot Toys products.

Over-production is always worse than under-production because it costs the company more money in the end.

As for the class warfare example....poor people shouldn't be buying Hot Toys in the first place.

 

[Blkinterceptor]

You wanna keep the trolling down to a dull roar? Thanks.

Isn't the topic "How do YOU feel about Hot Toys re-releases?"??? Let me know, Thanks.

 

[316what]

Isn't the topic "How do YOU feel about Hot Toys re-releases?"??? Let me know, Thanks.

I thought it was "devilof76's rationalization of why re-releases are good for him."

 

[Blkinterceptor]

I thought it was "devilof76's rationalization of why re-releases are good for him."

I guess they better change the title then...

 

[thenammagazine]

Sounds like your the "LE", scumbag

No one feels like their owed anything this is not our decision nor is it yours for HT to re-release, its happening and that's all there is to it. You don't like it then do something about it.

I don't collect for resale value. And I don't recall doing anything more than offering an opinion on why I feel the way I do. Apparently that opinion causes your panties to bunch and chaff your swollen ass because you lash out at anybody who doesn't share your entitlement mentality.

Actually, according to your tone, you do agree to a certain extent. Making things black and white makes things clear cut. According to your own argument, You're looking like a ********* right now from the tone in your own posts. I never once used the words above highlighted in bold to make a point. You may claim you're in a grey area, but your tone and how you say things is very black and white. There are no greys about your opinion and tone. That's why you always rub people the wrong way. It's not what you say, it's HOW you say it. The TONE in HOW you say it is very black and white. You don't have to use words like scumbag and morons to make a grey/nuetral point. You still disagree?! Count your infractions

I was showing you how your pigeonholing makes everybody look. Your naive perception is wrong and insulting to people on both sides of the argument. A shame you didn't get that from my other post but hopefully you understand now that it's been spelled out for you.

Isn't the topic "How do YOU feel about Hot Toys re-releases?"??? Let me know, Thanks.

You tell me, because again, your trolling anybody who doesn't agree with your self-entitlement mentality.