How do you rank the Predator films now?

[Rotfish]

What I'm about to say is entirely IMHO:

AVP-R itself was a terrible excuse for a film. The acting was not bad just because of the "nobody" actors, but because the writing was downright plain, simple, and stupid. Not even an Oscar-winner could put emotion or realism to a line like "people are dying, we need guns." It's all stock characters and stories. Stock cliche lines, as well. To me, the directors of that flick misunderstood what made the original films great and assumed they were just all about wild and mindless killing.
Then after shooting everything, they must've thought at the last minute "Hey, we need some human characters with backstories! Let's do that to give everyone the impression that we also have emotional depth in the film." So they did -- the bare minimum of it. They were too in a hurry to pay homage to the first movies to produce something good. The only positive the film had was the Predalien; we needed that design to be made and presented on-screen. It's just a pity that the movie it was featured in was so piss-poor.
For a bunch of fanboys, they sure got the damn formula wrong. And I'm one of those people who also dislikes Wolf, so no saving grace there for me.

 

[Master Wayne]

What I'm about to say is entirely IMHO:

AVP-R itself was a terrible excuse for a film. The acting was not bad just because of the "nobody" actors, but because the writing was downright plain, simple, and stupid. Not even an Oscar-winner could put emotion or realism to a line like "people are dying, we need guns." It's all stock characters and stories. Stock cliche lines, as well. To me, the directors of that flick misunderstood what made the original films great and assumed they were just all about wild and mindless killing.
Then after shooting everything, they must've thought at the last minute "Hey, we need some human characters with backstories! Let's do that to give everyone the impression that we also have emotional depth in the film." So they did -- the bare minimum of it. They were too in a hurry to pay homage to the first movies to produce something good. The only positive the film had was the Predalien; we needed that design to be made and presented on-screen. It's just a pity that the movie it was featured in was so piss-poor.
For a bunch of fanboys, they sure got the damn formula wrong. And I'm one of those people who also dislikes Wolf, so no saving grace there for me.

Pretty much spot on man.

 

[MarrowMan]

Predator
Predators
Predator 2
AVP R
AVP

 

[FLOSI]

No, I've just been involved in a few discussions about the prequels that have devolved into shouting matches between some of the people involved. It can get real ugly.

It gets like that a lot here too. Nam is a fan of all the films while I'm more of an OT snob but we get along just fine.... some others who have differing opinions? Not so much.

 

[Master Wayne]

so far, most ppl have Predators at #2, and AVPR at dead last considering most ppl think Wolf is one of the best Pred creations.

I hated Wolf. He was a silly and ridiculous one-sided fanboy creation. Holding two thrashing Aliens off by the throat at once. What an insult. What a joke.

 

[Rotfish]

Okay, scratch what I said earlier. In regards to AVP-R, for a bunch of devoted and die-hard fanboys, they sure got the damn formula wrong.

 

[jjohnson77]

Like I said, just fan films with a big budget.

 

[galactiboy]

1. Predator
2. Predator 2
3. AVP-R: I actually enjoy this movie for the slasher flick aspect of it.
4. Predators
5. AVP: Just don't like this one.

 

[HottoyzJoker]

Predator
Predator 2
Predators
AVP
AVPR Man did this movie suck

 

[Sithlord1975]

My rank:

Step 1: Watch, rent or buy Predator with Arnie.
Step 2: That's it.

 

[Devil_666]

I think a better question would be: Is this movie going to jump start the Predator franchise back up? And so far it looks like the answer is no. Predators debuted at #2 at the box office behind Twilight. Now it's #3 behind Twilight and Despicable Me and it's going to drop off even further when Inception comes out next week.

Predators made $25 Million domestically in its opening weekend. AVP not only opened at #1 but it also made $38.2 Million domestically when it opened.

GROSS (DOMESTIC)

1. Predator - $111,820,780 Adjusted ($60 Million in 1987)
2. AVP - $80,281,096
3. Predator 2 - $48,622,793 Adjusted ($30 Million in 1990)
4. AVP:R - $41,797,066

GROSS (WORLDWIDE)

1. Predator - $182,640,607 Adjusted ($98 Million in 1987)
2. AVP - $172,544,654
3. AVP:R - $128,884,494
4. Predator 2 - $92,383,306 Adjusted ($57 Million in 1990)

Right now, Predators looks like it'll make more than Predator 2 and AVP:R. But it doesn't seem likely that it'll overtake either Predator (Adjusted for inflation) or AVP in domestic/worldwide gross profit. And it definitely won't net as much as either Predator (Adjusted for inflation) or AVP.

No doubt the Studio is disappointed by how it's doing so far. Not to mention the so-so/mixed reviews ain't helping.

Rotten Tomatoes reports that 65% of critics have given the film a positive review based on 128 reviews, with an average score of 5.8/10. On Metacritic, the film has an average metascore of 50 out of 100 indicating mixed reviews, based on 28 reviews from mainstream critics

 

[Rotfish]

I actually liked AVP. Thought its story was great. Also loved the sleek and stylish cinematography. Pred designs were sweet.
It was just a fun movie to watch, what can I say? Nothing monumental, but a little underrated for sure.




It's a bummer about how Predators is doing, but here's what I think is going on. Today's generation doesn't know very much about the original (and brilliant films). You say Predator or Alien, and they think "AVP" immediately. Because the only Alien/Pred-related films that have come out during the 21st century (AVP-R, the most) were basically crap, people assume that the original films are no different.

HEY, STRAUSS BROTHERS? YOU WANNA KNOW WHY THESE ONCE-GREAT FRANCHISES ARE DYING OUT? BECAUSE SADLY ENOUGH, THE ONLY ALIEN OR PRED FILM PEOPLE ARE FAMILIAR WITH IS YOUR CRAPPY HOMAGE TO THE FAR-SUPERIOR ORIGINALS.

All of these guys are slowly killing off the franchise with each movie (except for Predators -- that one I liked, but by then it was too late for people who were already convinced that anything Alien or Predator was crap). This is one of those series that can either be made or broken even more by making a new film. For the most part, Antal and Rodriguez have done their homework enough to warrant doing a new movie. What sucks is that the previous releases have ruined their chances of bringing things back. It's truly a pity.

 

[thenammagazine]

I think a better question would be: Is this movie going to jump start the Predator franchise back up? And so far it looks like the answer is no. Predators debuted at #2 at the box office behind Twilight. Now it's #3 behind Twilight and Despicable Me and it's going to drop off even further when Inception comes out next week.

Kind of an unfair comparison. Twilight is a penominon with every emo douche, tween girl and pedophillic old hag on the planet. So any comparison there would be highly lopsided. Despicable Me will gross more in ticket sales due to it being a family movie and likely garner 4 tickets for every 2 Predators gets. Inception's initial weekend gross compared against Predators would be an accurate comparison, but getting trumped by a new movie when the comparison flick's been out for a week isn't really shocking. Judging by the overall worldwide take, I think Predators will enjoy it's own success.

 

[jjohnson77]

If you like a movie you like it no matter how much it makes or what some movie critic says.

 

[azurepred]

No doubt the Studio is disappointed by how it's doing so far. Not to mention the so-so/mixed reviews ain't helping.

I dont really take much away from all the different reviews cause a lot of them are casual fans without the deep knowledge of Predators. I'm not suprised bout Twilight cause have you seen how crazy those fan girls literally are? Its nuts, they're obsessed with those characters. I couldnt imagine being a parent of those ppl, but anyways...........A kids film and anything Twilight is gonna make a lot more than Predators just based on the fact so many casual fans lost interest after AVP .

 

[jjohnson77]

I dont really take much away from all the different reviews cause a lot of them are casual fans without the deep knowledge of Predators. I'm not suprised bout Twilight cause have you seen how crazy those fan girls literally are? Its nuts, they're obsessed with those characters. I couldnt imagine being a parent of those ppl, but anyways...........A kids film and anything Twilight is gonna make a lot more than Predators just based on the fact so many casual fans lost interest after AVP .

Don't forget the guys, my 14 year-old nephew loves Twifail.

 

[thenammagazine]

I dont really take much away from all the different reviews cause a lot of them are casual fans without the deep knowledge of Predators. I'm not suprised bout Twilight cause have you seen how crazy those fan girls literally are? Its nuts, they're obsessed with those characters. I couldnt imagine being a parent of those ppl, but anyways...........A kids film and anything Twilight is gonna make a lot more than Predators just based on the fact so many casual fans lost interest after AVP .

Add to that the film snobs that hate on flicks if there aren't any gay cowboy sitting at a table at a cafe in Paris, naked and eating pudding.

 

[playboy409]

From my personal enjoyment out of the films, I would say

Predator 1
AVP R (Wolf might be my favorite predator out of all of them)
Predators
AVP
Predators 2

 

[jjohnson77]

Add to that the film snobs that hate on flicks if there aren't any gay cowboy sitting at a table in France, naked and eating pudding.

Did not want or need that image in my head dude, thanks.

 

[thenammagazine]

Did not want or need that image in my head dude, thanks.

mmmmmmmmmmm, chocolate.