How do you rank the Terminator?

[ENDO-HUNTER]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_D9zP2s1xQ

 

[quiggle]

I hope when they release Hot Toys Reese and Terminator someone can make a review video with this playing in the background.

 

[Reaktwon]

That's cool!

 

[cplhicks]

My favorite hs always been T1.

I enjoy the man vs machine aspect of the flim.

Also I love the pacing and sountrack to it.

But if I were to rank my favorite movies it would in auctal chronolgocial order 1,2,3,4.

I hated salvation though!!!

 

[Mongoleone]

The fist films excellent but the soundtrack is the one thing that hurts it for me (not a fan of 80s synth, or 80s hair for that matter). I also grew up on T2 and never really realized there was a T1 until I was a teenager. I was channel surfing and saw the scene where Arnold is repairing himself and thought it was a Sci-fi Channel rip-off of T2 with an Arnold look-alike!

 

[thenammagazine]

The fist films excellent but the soundtrack is the one thing that hurts it for me (not a fan of 80s synth, or 80s hair for that matter). I also grew up on T2 and never really realized there was a T1 until I was a teenager. I was channel surfing and saw the scene where Arnold is repairing himself and thought it was a Sci-fi Channel rip-off of T2 with an Arnold look-alike!

We're talking Terminator, not adult films.

 

[Reaktwon]

T2 for me right now.

 

[Hex]

Forgot how good T1 is.

 

[shocktrooper_au]

T1
T2
T4/T3

 

[Corporal Dwayne Hicks]

T2
T1
T3




Ts

 

[Khev]

One thing that's cool about T3 is that even though it came out in 2003 it still feels like more of an 80's flick than T2. Not that that makes it a better (or remotely equal) movie of course, but still cool nonetheless.

 

[damagecase]

Honestly, T1 is the only one that should have been made, based on the way the story was told. Everything after that is just a testiment to how uncreative Hollywood was and continues to be.

 

[quiggle]

Honestly, T1 is the only one that should have been made, based on the way the story was told. Everything after that is just a testiment to how uncreative Hollywood was and continues to be.

Sarah pregnant pretty much meant there was going to be a sequel.

 

[Reaktwon]

A fan can never have enough Terminator!

 

[quiggle]

what is the better first battle scene Technoir or Galleria Mall?

 

[damagecase]

Sarah pregnant pretty much meant there was going to be a sequel.

Sarah pregnant should have meant the end of Skynet. Reese said "their defense grid was smashed, we'd won..."

The time travel thing was a last ditch effort by the machines... and they failed and the story should have ended there. Making Arnold into the hero cheapens the story considerably. Just my two cents...

 

[Mongoleone]

Seeing as how T2 is one of my Top 5 all time movies. I for one am glad they made sequels, and hope they continue to untill the machines put an end to it all. Just my two cents.

 

[DiFabio]

Sarah pregnant should have meant the end of Skynet. Reese said "their defense grid was smashed, we'd won..."

The time travel thing was a last ditch effort by the machines... and they failed and the story should have ended there. Making Arnold into the hero cheapens the story considerably. Just my two cents...

All I have to say is, "one possible future".

I don't see why hardcore Terminator fans are hating on T2 all of the sudden. Because of John Connor? He's a ____ing kid, of course he's going to be a brat in the first act. But just like Sarah and the T-800 his character evolves.

The T-800 is a good guy now? So what. It's a "reprogrammed" T-800. Arnold wouldn't have come back to the role as a villain with his 90s action hero image, so that's the only sensible route they could have gone with.

T2 isn't like T3, Salvation. It's not like the Star Wars prequels. It doesn't cheapen the first one, it just adds to it.

You've got more Kyle Reese for the most part (if you see the extend version), you see the first T-800s endo arm and chip. I mean what more do you want? "Uncle Bob" is still the same T-800 we see in the first film, except not really. Sarah Connor is now the legendary fighter that Reese was talking about under that underpass. And the T-1000 is equally imposing to the original 1984 T-800. There are a bunch of parts in the film where the T-800 looks intimidating and menacing. Some of the dialogue and bad to the bone stuff may be a little tongue and cheek but you have to remember that this was the return of the Terminator on the big screen so it was going to be a little more than a celebration.

Of course it was going to be more elaborate and "loud" but it doesn't fall under the weight of it. The secondary characters/cast are just as interesting as the characters in the first film. The "no fate but what we make" was the next logical step in Terminator lore.

I don't see how any Terminator fan could be upset with it, I really don't. The T-800 is a "good guy" now, so what. He does the same ____ the first one did. Bashing peoples head's off walls, throwing people down, etc. He just can't kill. But so what, we saw a T-800 kill before. I love seeing people get blown away by a SPAS as much as the next guy but I know I can't be the only one that loved watching people, mostly cops get their knee caps blown off and getting hit in the back with a gas pellet.

Hate for T3 and Salvation I can see. But I love The Terminator and Judgment Day equally. It's a worthy sequel and does everything it's supposed to do. It's bigger, not necessarily better but still fantastic.

 

[quiggle]

I'm very grateful for Terminator 2 because that was the movie that started my love for the franchise, it was my favorite film of all time. but in recent times I've seem to grow more fond of the first Terminator instead because of Kyle and Sarah especially the kind of loyalty Reese showed towards her, going back in time knowing he can't return to future and to a time where the weapons were not sophisticated "ray guns" up against a hulking machine in 1984. didnt it give some of you chills when he yelled at the cop asking what year it was? would you have made this kind of ultimate sacrfice for your loved ones? sure the trailer to T2 said the T-800 is loyalty to a child but that was its job but Reese voluntarily gave it all for Sarah. and to copulate for the first time with the woman he didnt lust for on a corner street but genuinely loved is special, you kind of dont see that passionate emotion in T2. I also sometimes watch T2 again now and think that John is a girl because of his hair, squeaky voice and some scenes where he looks like he is wearing lipstick.

 

[a-dev]

All I have to say is, "one possible future".

I don't see why hardcore Terminator fans are hating on T2 all of the sudden. Because of John Connor? He's a ____ing kid, of course he's going to be a brat in the first act. ...........................................
Hate for T3 and Salvation I can see. But I love The Terminator and Judgment Day equally. It's a worthy sequel and does everything it's supposed to do. It's bigger, not necessarily better but still fantastic.

I agree with all. I have no problem with John acting the way he does for the reason you state. And although villain Arnie was really cool, hero Arnie was no less so. As you say he was reprogrammed and given new orders by young john. Villain T-800s behaviour would have been exactly like this had that particular T-800 been likewise reprogrammed. Sure he didn't happen to kill anyone in the bar scene before John told him he couldn't kill but he was going to kill the 2 jocks later on and John had to stop him. I don't see the problem.

Another misconception people seem to have is that by the end of the film he has learnt to feel human emotion. He hasn't. He has simply learnt what kinds of things trigger particular emotions in humans. "I know now why you cry, but its something I can never do". I'm 99% certain he isn't merely saying that he cannot produce tears.

You can prefer to watch villain T-800 but as far as I'm concerned theres no basis to say that the T2 T-800 isn't believable as a Terminator.