How many of you will really keep your Biker Scout order ???

[Rook]

I don't know. I'm hanging onto mine. But, if everyone's right, and I wind up losing my tuckus on this, I can guarantee that I'll no longer be pre-ordering, especially directly from Sideshow.

The only reason I always do so in the first place is out of my memory of missing out on great pieces like Doom, The Balrog, Witchking TF and the Cave Troll. But this continued devaluing of the Star Wars PFs through inflated edition sizes is increasingly too consistent -- especially with the last few pieces -- to even call it a trend. It's pretty much the norm.

I'm not whining, really. I'm just wising up. If I can get it cheaper by being patient, there really isn't an option, is there? I mean, I have a house to restore.

 

[SolidLiquidFox]

Sideshow has obviously spent a lot of time developing this piece and apparently they want to see a hefty return on their investment. At 1,500 ES like this...well, I think many SW fans will pass in favor of whatever else gets announced between now and January.

What's sad is that because of the mass cancellations we'll see on this, Sideshow may rethink doing elaborate PFs if the only way to make it worth it is for them is to make 1,500+.

 

[customizerwannabe]

Sideshow has obviously spent a lot of time developing this piece and apparently they want to see a hefty return on their investment. At 1,500 ES like this...well, I think many SW fans will pass in favor of whatever else gets announced between now and January.

What's sad is that because of the mass cancellations we'll see on this, Sideshow may rethink doing elaborate PFs if the only way to make it worth it is for them is to make 1,500+.

If that's the case so be it. They have to realize that shelling out 800.00 is difficult for a lot of collectors and they don't want to feel they got screwed when they see the same thing pop up on ebay for 200.00 less. The dealers will either end up with more or they'll be giving these away as contest prizes for decades.

 

[PosterBoyKelly]

Yeah, pretty poor judgment going on here.

 

[McHaleyArt]

Sideshow will be fine as far as making $$$. They will have already made money off of the canceled Flex Pay orders before this is released.

 

[creature4000]

I'll be keeping mine for now... unless I start to see it pop up in other places.

I think the majority of us are complaining because It's hard to spend $800 on a collectable... it's EVEN HARDER to spend $800 on something that may possibly be found much cheaper later on. I know I would feel extremely let down if I saw this sold for even $200 cheaper.

 

[choopie]

I was just thinking, for a 1/4 scale PF Biker scout alone...how much would you pay?? About $350USD right? So, basically it's $450USD just for the speeder bike?? Now, I KNOW I am cancelling...I didn't think of it that way until just now..

This is how I thought it out as well. I was thinking max $300 on the Biker Scout alone...and it's $500 for the bike? No thank you.

Sideshow would have been more successful selling just the Biker Scout at $300-$350. Slap a 2,000 ES on it and it would have sold out just as fast.

 

[LaMelnik]

Because this is my favorite character in the SW Universe I am more than happy to keep the one I got.

With the ES set at 1500 now I will be sure to pick up 2 more after it is released.

I asked Heath if I could get the one I ordered custom painted ahead of time but that didn't fly.

With the others I plan to get maybe I can work a side deal with one of the guys at SS to custom paint those.

I know people complain about hte price tag but after spending so much time asking about it at CIV, I honestly feel that it is the best PF that SS has done to date in the SW line.

 

[El Roranous]

I am going to take a different side than the masses just for a second here.

So the ES is 1500. Really isn't that large considering that there is no exclusive. Now, if Sideshow sticks to their guns and keeps the only one per dealer rule then there really won't be any to be had for cheaper unless there are collectors willing to sell for a loss on ebay.

As far as Dave's point goes, I do believe this and Doom are comparable. Both are not the most popular characters but the advantage that I see both having is that they are both "masterpieces". I know this is subjective but I really think people love Doom mainly because of the throne and the details-same may go for this Biker scout.

$800 is a hefty load to drop but there are people who will do it if it's the only way to get what they want. What if Sideshow is too proud to let this go to dealers in the end? What if it really is going to be like a Sideshow exclusive?

 

[Gruson]

I hope you guys did not really cancel your orders.

It was a typo.

The real edition size is only 150!









SF joke.

 

[El Roranous]

I hope you guys did not really cancel your orders.

It was a typo.

The real edition size is only 150!









SF joke.

They could really cut down the ES without officially announcing it just by not producing as many as they intended to. They have done this before so hopefully they will do it again.

 

[woodsy]

Although I think an edition size of 1500 is way too high for an $800 PF, there is a silver lining to all this. Anyone who really likes this piece should be able to get one for $150-$200 less either through other retailers or on Ebay.

I for one will be eventually cancelling my order and it isn't because suddenly I don't think this is a fantastic piece. It's economics pure and simple. I'm not as well versed as most collectors concerning SW PF's but it seems to me they rarely even hold their issue price value, so why on earth would I even consider paying full price for this piece buying it through SS?

I don't think comparing SW to Marvel or LOTR makes alot of sense either. These licences have proven themselves time and time again to have a very strong secondary market, the same certainly can't be said for SW.

Ultimately however, who do we blame for this high edition size? It certainly wasn't SS that pre-ordered 1500 of these things in nine hours, it was us collectors counting the minutes before we could get our orders in, and in turn crashing the system in our buying frenzy. With the response SS received why wouldn't they set the edition size this high? Are they not a comapny whose main objective is to remain profitable?

I for one have always hated those TBD editions and perhaps it is time we as collectors stop playing into SS hands, by refusing to order until after they have set their edition sizes.

 

[RoboDad]

I am going to take a different side than the masses just for a second here.

Just because an opinion has some popularity behind it, that doesn't mean the holders of that opinion are "the masses". We're not sheep, we're not (generally) stupid, we're not even uninformed.

So the ES is 1500. Really isn't that large considering that there is no exclusive.

Kind of subjective, don't you think? Taken out of context, an ES of 1500 doesn't seem all that large. But, factor in the price tag, and the size of the piece, and some people, myself included, think it is "that large".

Now, if Sideshow sticks to their guns and keeps the only one per dealer rule then there really won't be any to be had for cheaper unless there are collectors willing to sell for a loss on ebay.

"If". "Unless". And what happens if Sideshow doesn't stick to their guns. OR what happens if collectors do find themselves in a position to sell theirs at a loss. Both of those situations have happened before.

As far as Dave's point goes, I do believe this and Doom are comparable. Both are not the most popular characters but the advantage that I see both having is that they are both "masterpieces". I know this is subjective but I really think people love Doom mainly because of the throne and the details-same may go for this Biker scout.

Actually, I think people love Doom because he has been an iconic Supervillian for over 40 years, and everything about the PF (the throne, the pose, the details, and a great exclusive) perfectly capture the character. Calling him a secondary or unpopular character seems a bit disingenuous to me. He is to the Fantastic Four what Darth Vader is to Star Wars. At least that is how I have always viewed him. Maybe the Fantastic Four aren't as popular as Star Wars, but they do have a broad, established fan base nonetheless.

$800 is a hefty load to drop but there are people who will do it if it's the only way to get what they want. What if Sideshow is too proud to let this go to dealers in the end? What if it really is going to be like a Sideshow exclusive?

Then you will have been right, and I will have been wrong, and life will go on.

 

[El Roranous]

Just because an opinion has some popularity behind it, that doesn't mean the holders of that opinion are "the masses". We're not sheep, we're not (generally) stupid, we're not even uninformed.

Nice. Thanks for putting words in my mouth. I never said the people that held the "popular" opinion were sheep, stupid, or uninformed nor did I imply it either. Here is a website to help you look up words that you may pick out of other peoples posts in the future.

https://m-w.com/

Do you like to pick fights because you always seem to have something confrontational to say?

Kind of subjective, don't you think? Taken out of context, an ES of 1500 doesn't seem all that large. But, factor in the price tag, and the size of the piece, and some people, myself included, think it is "that large".

Duh it is kind of subjective. I did not state anything as fact in my post. We are on a message board where people give their opinions.

"If". "Unless". And what happens if Sideshow doesn't stick to their guns. OR what happens if collectors do find themselves in a position to sell theirs at a loss. Both of those situations have happened before.

Then these situations happen. I never said that they could not happen, just as I never stated that the scenario I painted would happen.

Actually, I think people love Doom because he has been an iconic Supervillian for over 40 years, and everything about the PF (the throne, the pose, the details, and a great exclusive) perfectly capture the character. Calling him a secondary or unpopular character seems a bit disingenuous to me. He is to the Fantastic Four what Darth Vader is to Star Wars. At least that is how I have always viewed him. Maybe the Fantastic Four aren't as popular as Star Wars, but they do have a broad, established fan base nonetheless.

That is your opinion and I am fine with it. No need to call my opinion simple or incorrect.

Then you will have been right, and I will have been wrong, and life will go on.

Yes, life will go on and you will continue to attack people this way

 

[tomandshell]

Maybe the Fantastic Four aren't as popular as Star Wars, but they do have a broad...

And her name is Jessica Alba.

 

[Boba Fett]

And I heard she can't act her way out of a paper bag in FF2.

 

[RoboDad]

Nice. Thanks for putting words in my mouth. I never said the people that held the "popular" opinion were sheep, stupid, or uninformed nor did I imply it either. Here is a website to help you look up words that you may pick out of other peoples posts in the future.

Do you like to pick fights because you always seem to have something confrontational to say?

Duh it is kind of subjective. I did not state anything as fact in my post. We are on a message board where people give their opinions.

Then these situations happen. I never said that they could not happen, just as I never stated that the scenario I painted would happen.

That is your opinion and I am fine with it. No need to call my opinion simple or incorrect.

Yes, life will go on and you will continue to attack people this way

Man, did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning? Nothing I wrote was an attack of any kind. Confrontational? Where did that come from?

But as far as the "masses" thing, perhaps you weren't aware that that word is very commonly used in a derogatory manner, intended to imply that people who are part of "the masses" are unable to think or act for themselves. If you weren't aware of that, then I apologize. But if you were, and yet chose to use that word anyway, albeit with a different intent, then the responsibility lies with you.

 

[RoboDad]

And her name is Jessica Alba.

Yeah, but why is she wearing such a bad wig this time?

 

[customizerwannabe]

And I heard she can't act her way out of a paper bag in FF2.

And she doesn't have to...at least until her buns or ****s start feeling gravity's pull.

Also,I doubt pride motivates Sideshow's economics in ANY way.

 

[nash]

And her name is Jessica Alba.