I saw Spider-Man 3 today

[user 1190]

I believe the actual tally is 258 million. Which is amazingly expensive. Revenge of the Sith was about $100, I think King Kong was around $200.

But since they've made like $350 million worldwide so far they are doing fine.

That is what Sony has said but many insiders have said they belive that the 258 million number was production cost and didn't include any post-production costs which they have said was close to the same amount. Sony wouldn't want anyone to know it cost over 500 Million so they are going to do the best they can to cover that.

 

[die]

I saw it over the weekend and I thought it was great.

The following rant is in red text, feel free to just skip it and scroll down to my actual review of the movie itself.


I'm a longtime Spider-Man fan for as long as I can remember. I loved the old comics & later I was a huge fan of Todd McFarlane's Spider-Man. When McFarlane started drawing Spider-Man, he totally re-energized the characters and while it pissed off alot of the old school Spider-Man fans, it totally pulled me in & I was tracking down all of the McFarlane issues. I find the Spider-Man movies have the same effect on me now.

I know alot of people are complaining about the new movie just because it doesn't follow the comic book as much as they'd like. The problem is that they are trying to measure something against nostalgia. As a long-time diehard Spider-Man fan I can honestly say that the movies define the Spider-Man experience for me now. Tobey Maguire is Spider-Man, Topher Grace is Eddie Brock, Willam Dafoe is definitely Norman Osbourne, etc. etc. I could not tell you the last time I bought a new issue of a Spider-Man comic, I haven't followed the comics in years.

For me, the Spider-Man movies bring the story to life in way the comics never could. The music is epic & compliments the entire experience. I think they made wise choices for the characters too as far as actors go and they captured the spirit of each of the characters without having to stray from what made them great in the comics. Even characters like Jameson & his secretary, Peter's landlord, Dr. Conners, etc. add so much to the experience. I think that if we were all 10 years old again, we'd allow ourselves to truly love the movies without all of the fanboy criticism. Nostalgia aside, the comics were not as great as we remember them.

I guess I should finally get around to actually saying what I liked & disliked about Spiderman 3.....

With all the Spider-Man movies there is a key message & the key message of Spider-Man 3 was "Forgiveness". To drive that point home, I do think Sandman was important to the movie. This also set the stage for Goblin jr. to shine and shine he did. I really enjoyed Topher Grace as Eddie Brock. When I first heard about him playing Brock I hated the idea. When they said Thomas Hayden Church was cast, I figured for sure he'd be Brock/Venom. I do like the way they made Brock in the story, I like him as the Peter Parker-clone. It was really a step-above the comic version of Brock to me.

Gwen Stacy was great for me, she seriously captured the spirit of the classic character & she was hot. I also really enjoyed the "Emo Spidey" portion of the movie. I think it was perfect & proved that Peter Parker could never really truly be cool. Even his idea of "cool" is totally cheesy & dorky.


My only real complaints about the movie are with Venom.

- The removal of the symbiote suit was too rushed. I wish there would've been more time to show Peter struggling with the suit. Like him trying to take it off and couldn't before he tried the bell tower approach. Not a huge complaint, but it would've helped alot.

-Not enough Venom, I would've loved to have seen more of Eddie as Venom.

-I would've loved to have seen Venom say "we". I always thought that was the coolest part about the symbiote!

-The origin of the alien costume. I'm sure time was an issue, but it could've been done better. It seemed really rushed.



Great movie though overall, I really enjoyed it.

 

[dunedain]

I saw the movie yesterday during a marathon of the spidey films.

One thing I can say with great pleasure... they work perfect together the 3 films as a whole.
Spidey 3 kicks special effects ass, it looks so dam good, with the Sandman standing out in every way.

Venom looks cool, but his screen-time was a bit short... and I did miss the part of Venom calling himself 'we'.

All together great spider-man film, and can't wait until dvd (or blu-ray) release.

 

[The Mike]

You know what gets me? The fact that people are still typing "Osbourne" or "Osborne"....Its Osborn.

Looking back, it was a good film but not great.

 

[bagelsncheesey]

Saw it yesterday, and I really have to say that I enjoyed it. I think the problem that people are having is the separation of movie and comic (which I can understand, it is a Marvel movie) but movies will always be just that, movies. And comics will always be comics.

I enjoyed the storyline, found the "evil/emo" Parker to be funny and confused at the same time, which I think drives the point that they wanted to make home. As a couple posts above me say, he can never truly be cool or slick, because he's Parker! The Sandman was pretty cool, but I wished the storyline focused on Venom much more. I felt like the Goblin Jr. part was filler, and for those who saw it, i'll just say that imo, they could've skipped the beginning and just went to the end at the construction site as far as Jr. is concerned. I really loved his role, just could've dealt with less of it and more Venom.

I'll buy it when it comes out!

 

[Seth Gecko]

I saw it over the weekend and I thought it was great.

The following rant is in red text, feel free to just skip it and scroll down to my actual review of the movie itself.


I'm a longtime Spider-Man fan for as long as I can remember. I loved the old comics & later I was a huge fan of Todd McFarlane's Spider-Man. When McFarlane started drawing Spider-Man, he totally re-energized the characters and while it pissed off alot of the old school Spider-Man fans, it totally pulled me in & I was tracking down all of the McFarlane issues. I find the Spider-Man movies have the same effect on me now.

I know alot of people are complaining about the new movie just because it doesn't follow the comic book as much as they'd like. The problem is that they are trying to measure something against nostalgia. As a long-time diehard Spider-Man fan I can honestly say that the movies define the Spider-Man experience for me now. Tobey Maguire is Spider-Man, Topher Grace is Eddie Brock, Willam Dafoe is definitely Norman Osbourne, etc. etc. I could not tell you the last time I bought a new issue of a Spider-Man comic, I haven't followed the comics in years.

For me, the Spider-Man movies bring the story to life in way the comics never could. The music is epic & compliments the entire experience. I think they made wise choices for the characters too as far as actors go and they captured the spirit of each of the characters without having to stray from what made them great in the comics. Even characters like Jameson & his secretary, Peter's landlord, Dr. Conners, etc. add so much to the experience. I think that if we were all 10 years old again, we'd allow ourselves to truly love the movies without all of the fanboy criticism. Nostalgia aside, the comics were not as great as we remember them.

I guess I should finally get around to actually saying what I liked & disliked about Spiderman 3.....

With all the Spider-Man movies there is a key message & the key message of Spider-Man 3 was "Forgiveness". To drive that point home, I do think Sandman was important to the movie. This also set the stage for Goblin jr. to shine and shine he did. I really enjoyed Topher Grace as Eddie Brock. When I first heard about him playing Brock I hated the idea. When they said Thomas Hayden Church was cast, I figured for sure he'd be Brock/Venom. I do like the way they made Brock in the story, I like him as the Peter Parker-clone. It was really a step-above the comic version of Brock to me.

Gwen Stacy was great for me, she seriously captured the spirit of the classic character & she was hot. I also really enjoyed the "Emo Spidey" portion of the movie. I think it was perfect & proved that Peter Parker could never really truly be cool. Even his idea of "cool" is totally cheesy & dorky.


My only real complaints about the movie are with Venom.

- The removal of the symbiote suit was too rushed. I wish there would've been more time to show Peter struggling with the suit. Like him trying to take it off and couldn't before he tried the bell tower approach. Not a huge complaint, but it would've helped alot.

-Not enough Venom, I would've loved to have seen more of Eddie as Venom.

-I would've loved to have seen Venom say "we". I always thought that was the coolest part about the symbiote!

-The origin of the alien costume. I'm sure time was an issue, but it could've been done better. It seemed really rushed.



Great movie though overall, I really enjoyed it.

:chew

 

[The Ringer]

I saw it again yesterday and enjoyed it as much as the 1st but before I left yesterday I looked at the (professional) reviews. Well on average they gave it a C and I was wondering if they have ever given a comic book movie a really good review?

 

[PosterBoyKelly]

1- They tried to jam too much in, plain and simple.
2- Venoms voice sucked, shoulda used some voice mods there folks.

That's all I got wrong with it, loved it other wise. I can see where Rami was coming from with jamming a buncha stuff in to this, he wasn't 100% sure he'd be back and wanted to do it. OK, fair, but the movie suffered, luckily, not TOO much.

Also, if you expect a comic movie to be 10% accurate, don't see movies, just read comics. The Spidey franchise is as close as we're gonna get to a comic movie being accurate. So eat it.

 

[Darth Caedus]

I want to see the movie again. If only to image Harry stroking his evil mustache when he told Peter he was the other guy. Stroke a mustache like this

 

[Bardoon]

Here's my review:

As it was mentioned by Seth, the theme behind the movie is FORGIVENESS. I bought a copy of the "Spiderman Chronicles" which was the production book and it was confirmed in there.

Another fact I didn't know from there that before Venom...THE VULTURE (who would've been played by Ben Kingsley as said by the book) was the villain before it was changed to Venom. The reason for this was that the screenwriters and Raimi couldn't really figure out a "personal" connection for the Vulture and Spidey/Parker...much like Sandman had a connection via being the true "murderer" of Uncle Ben.Venom's name was tossed in and he replaced Vulture.



Anyways...the movie was great.But it had a lot of stuff that worked and didn't work. A lot of this has been mentioned already but I think they had TOO many villains and this one and telling TWO villain origin stories in one movie is seemingly TOO much...especially one such as Venom, who is VERY popular amongst the fans but to the movie crowds that I overheard and from some friends who aren't big Spidey fans...they wanted to see more of him. I certainly think that Venom and New Goblin should've been the ONLY villains in the movie and the story should've focused on Harry and Peter's relationship with the inclusion of the symbiote early on in the film leading up to the birth of Venom and leaving room enough to develop the character a bit more. I have always thought of Venom as one of the most...if not,the most dangerous Spidey villains (pre-Lethal Enforcer stuff in the comics)... and more about the character and the symbiote could've been brought to light.. such as why it "imitated" Spidey on Brock and why it doesn't trigger the Spidey sense...all are very interesting twists that could've brought Venom out as a bigger threat. This combined with the desire of Harry Osborn to kill Spider-man could've made for a better organized and less scattered plot that could've focused on less characters than being all over the place.

I did like Sand-man as the tragic villain and Thomas Haden Church played the role perfectly and looked great as Flint Marko. Yet Sand-man's parts were over-shadowed and took a backseat towards the end when you wondered why exactly he wanted to kill Spidey if he "didn't want it to go this way".

The best parts were among Peter and Harry and their relationship and while I wasn't liking the amnesia that popped up, the parts were fun to watch and it was great seeing Norman making a cameo to "haunt" his paranoid son and return him back to evil. Aside from the final battle, the (emo) Peter vs. Harry fight at the Osborn's place was awesome and well done...it was also one of the parts that showed off how evil the symbiote had been causing Peter to be. While other sequences (such as the dance number...which could've still happened, but should've been toned down and lasted maybe a minute or two if not then removed from the film as a whole) just added some kookiness to the (emo) Parker.

There were some other scenes that were out of place...such as the two kids screaming "cool" at the final battle and some things like Bernard (sp?) being the one to convince Harry to help Spidey didn't work out. I don't mind Bernard being the one to give Harry doubt, but what he said wasn't enough in my opinion or was the right thing to say. Also the symbiote meteorite landing near Spidey was TOO coincidental...and I think the intro. to the symbiote may have been done better if perhaps...for example...Harry and Peter were fighting and crashed through ESU's science lab or something that happened to have some moon rocks from a recent moon trip (which could be noted earlier in the story) that they were studying and hence knocking into one that awoke the symbiote...which then jumped onto Peter or something. Even the 90's animated series had a better introduction for the symbiote when it first appeared.

Tobey and Kirsten kind of went through the motions...and their chemistry has really laxed since the first Spider-man movie. At times I found myself wondering what Maguire's emotions were cause it was hard to read his face sometimes.

Bryce Dallas Howards was hot as Gwen Stacy and fit the role nicely, as did Topher Grace as Eddie Brock...who did a good job as the yin to Peter's yang (or whatever) which made the connection between the two that much better than having Brock being as he is in the comics.

Christopher Young did alright...however I did not like his inclusion of the "symbiote theme" during the opening credits and it was just a sudden jump from a masterpiece to a load-of-crap...I did like his subtle theme for Sand-man's awakening...but that's about all I remember. Please get someone else for Spidey 4.

Anyways, it was a great movie, not perfect, but it was a fun, entertaining ride and the battle scenes and special effects were among the best I had ever seen in any movies. I was disappointed that there was too much going on and maybe with an extra 30 min. or something it could've wrapped everything up a little better and had more for the characters but I did enjoy the film and was super excited to see Venom on the big-screen as well.

 

[DarthNeil]

My only real complaints about the movie are with Venom.

- The removal of the symbiote suit was too rushed. I wish there would've been more time to show Peter struggling with the suit. Like him trying to take it off and couldn't before he tried the bell tower approach. Not a huge complaint, but it would've helped alot.

-Not enough Venom, I would've loved to have seen more of Eddie as Venom.

-I would've loved to have seen Venom say "we". I always thought that was the coolest part about the symbiote!

-The origin of the alien costume. I'm sure time was an issue, but it could've been done better. It seemed really rushed.

All of the above--- and with JJ's son being introduced as the astronaut in the second movie I thought for sure that that was how they were going to bring the symbiote into play--- He gives MJ a gift to try and win her back-- something made from a rock that he brought back from outer space and the black oozes out of it sometime after she's tossed it aside in her apartment. I think that's how they worked Venom into the cartoon.

I know that they can't do the entire SECRET WARS storyline (now wouldn't THAT be a movie) but the meteor landing near the place where Peter and MJ are star gazing (meteor shower) to me was just rushed poor storytelling.

I twas a good movie, don't get me wrong. But after the great qualities of the first and the leaps and bounds improvements of the second I guess my expectations were quite high--- It's the third in the trilogy and the third best.

Too many plot points were rushed and some (Sandman's character) overly forced.

 

[BadMoon]

I am sure I am stepping on toes but I don't care thats what I do. I just haven't done it in a while. Stop complaining. Be glad you are even fortunate enough to see your hero fight crime on the big screen at all. If you think you can do better than why aren't you the director. Or writer for that matter. I just hate it when people get so personal with it. Like it will change your life if you don't get to see that one part. Or if that part didn't last long enough to make you feel the director did it justice. You can't take years and years and put it into 3 movies. Get over yourselfs. We all know you have each and every Spiderman comic to date memorized. Whoppdie Do!


I hate when people bash movies about comic books. Be lucky it is even starting the trend back up again. Hopefully younger kids will start to buy Spiderman comics now and enjoy them because of the movie.

 

[automaton]

was the problem having too many villains or not knowing how to write (or edit) accordingly? perhaps if Raimi had cut down on the phone tag scenes and the song and dance routines, he could have developed the characters. the script is sloppy and cliched... the use of amnesia... the totally random introduction of the symbiote... the butler... the Sandman now exposed as Uncle Ben's killer? Raimi took liberties that he wasn't able to tie together. i don't think having multiple villains was the problem, only the scapegoat.

 

[DarthNeil]

I am sure I am stepping on toes but I don't care thats what I do. I just haven't done it in a while. Stop complaining. Be glad you are even fortunate enough to see your hero fight crime on the big screen at all. If you think you can do better than why aren't you the director. Or writer for that matter. I just hate it when people get so personal with it. Like it will change your life if you don't get to see that one part. Or if that part didn't last long enough to make you feel the director did it justice. You can't take years and years and put it into 3 movies. Get over yourselfs. We all now you have each and every Spiderman comic to date memorized. Whoppdie Do!


I hate when people bash movies about comic books. Be lucky it is even starting the trend back up again. Hopefully younger kids will start to buy Spiderman comics now and enjoy them because of the movie.

How do you really feel?

 

[teemu]

Here I am, with my brother (Spidey) on Thursday nights Midnight showing of Spiderman 3 (I enjoyed it alot)

check out the pics

https://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2873&stc=1&d=1178591504



https://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2874&stc=1&d=1178591504

 

[BadMoon]

How do you really feel?

LOL! That's about it. I just get tired of going to a movie and hearing someone on the way out go "Ehhh Tolkien wouldn't want it that way" as if they knew him personally. Or "Ehhh that is not what Stan Lee would want". Yet he has a cameo in the movie. LOL! That is the true instinct of a nerd. Getting mad about something so dumb. Just appreciate it for what it is. I am a huge Star Wars fan. Did I complain about the new movies. Nope! I took them for what they were and enjoyed them and still will. No "Ehhh" from me you shall hear ever! LOL!

 

[DarthNeil]

LOL! That's about it. I just get tired of going to a movie and hearing someone on the way out go "Ehhh Tolkien wouldn't want it that way" as if they knew him personally. Or "Ehhh that is not what Stan Lee would want". Yet he has a cameo in the movie. LOL! That is the true instinct of a nerd. Getting mad about something so dumb. Just appreciate it for what it is. I am a huge Star Wars fan. Did I complain about the new movies. Nope! I took them for what they were and enjoyed them and still will. No "Ehhh" from me you shall hear ever! LOL!

I don't like complaining for the sake of complaining either. Like you I'm happy we're living in the glory days of sci-fi and comic movies--- having said that we can enjoy a movie and still say this or that being tweeked would've made it better.

A good Spidey flick...

 

[Vader AL]

I am sure I am stepping on toes but I don't care thats what I do. I just haven't done it in a while. Stop complaining. Be glad you are even fortunate enough to see your hero fight crime on the big screen at all. If you think you can do better than why aren't you the director. Or writer for that matter. I just hate it when people get so personal with it. Like it will change your life if you don't get to see that one part. Or if that part didn't last long enough to make you feel the director did it justice. You can't take years and years and put it into 3 movies. Get over yourselfs. We all know you have each and every Spiderman comic to date memorized. Whoppdie Do!


I hate when people bash movies about comic books. Be lucky it is even starting the trend back up again. Hopefully younger kids will start to buy Spiderman comics now and enjoy them because of the movie.

now, now badmoon that's like if someone ever points out a flaw in a SS product saying if they don't like it to become a sculptor/painter or that they should be glad their favorite characters are made into toys.

 

[darthviper107]

Here I am, with my brother (Spidey) on Thursday nights Midnight showing of Spiderman 3 (I enjoyed it alot)

check out the pics

https://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2873&stc=1&d=1178591504



https://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2874&stc=1&d=1178591504

Heh, you two look very lonely...

 

[teemu]

Actually no, we were on the other side of the line to get in.Lots of pics taken of us.It does look that way but we were not lonely at all