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Yeah it would have been nice to actually piece together a complete fellowship with this line. I mean statues that can stand alone or be linked together to recreate the scene when they came over the mountain or something like that.
 
Yeah, all 9 separate statues beside each other on a shelf in a wilderness or moria 'class photo' of sorts could have been amazing.

We'll see how Sideshow's costume change up decision works out with the maquettes, if they'll get to the 9 at all or if they'll ever revisit these characters in Fellowship garb. Then we can dredge up this thread again in a few years for more :lol s and :monkey2 s.
 
I think the cresting of the hill has long been the dream of collectors. I would love diorama of it or of the Council of Elrond. Neither are dynamic though which is probably why it will never happen.
 
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I love what we are being offered in this maquette line. But I'm very new to collecting LOTR, so have not been hurt yet. I had all the 1/6, but have found I am really a statue collector anyway.
 
GAR! :mad: The Fellowship ended on the shores of the sea when Gandalf said it did, at the Grey havens. At least, the end of the fellowship in Middle-Earth.
It's not a long road between Rivendell and Moria, so why would you say they were the 'proper' fellowship then as opposed to the other 2 movies? Because of one iconic scene when they walk wind-swept past the camera?
If this IS the 'proper' fellowship, then NONE of them can have Lorien cloaks or leaf clasps on their cloaks, or be dressed in any way differently from this short scene. The new Strider statue is NOT part of the fellowship. Merry from the SSW range is NOT part of the fellowship. That doesn't make sense to me and i'm sure Tolkien would have something to say about this were he still alive :)


Actually, Tolkien DID have something to say:

Book: "The Fellowship of the Ring"
Chapter 10: "The Breaking of the Fellowship"... :lecture

But since Gandalf was no longer with them at this point, I went back to the sections where they were all together as "The Fellowship of the Ring". Hence, "...between Rivendell and Moria."




I think the cresting of the hill has long been the dream of collectors. I would love diorama of it or of the Council of Elrond. Neither are dynamic though which is probably why it will never happen.

Perhaps not dynamic but definitely iconic. Not to mention the fact that just about every LOTR collector has wished for these as well.
 
I guess we shall see. We have Aragorn and GTG already. We know they have Legolas, Gimli, and Boromir in the works for this line.

Means nothing, till you have two Hobbit's previewed/on pre-order and they sell well enough that the last two are very likely to happen.

I guess one thing that may save SS is due to the fact they haven't made the 9 in any other line, it helps to build up the desire to buy them in the maquette line.

Assuming there are enough ppl out there that don't have the SSW Sam & Bill and Merry statues that will buy the SS ones. The best thing SS could do is release Frodo and Pippin first, get those right, then anyone that has all the rest, is likely to grab a future Sam and Merry.
Even so, like I've said, SS are going to need enough new collectors for this line to survive, as such, only time will tell.
 
Means nothing, till you have two Hobbit's previewed/on pre-order and they sell well enough that the last two are very likely to happen.

I means we're over half way to getting them. Thats a good thing and should show the strong willingness to get this done. For me I'll ride that bit of positive energy instead of being a buzz kill.

I guess one thing that may save SS is due to the fact they haven't made the 9 in any other line, it helps to build up the desire to buy them in the maquette line.

Well, hopefully the desire is that people just want to get the Fellowship.

Assuming there are enough ppl out there that don't have the SSW Sam & Bill and Merry statues that will buy the SS ones. The best thing SS could do is release Frodo and Pippin first, get those right, then anyone that has all the rest, is likely to grab a future Sam and Merry.

Even so, like I've said, SS are going to need enough new collectors for this line to survive, as such, only time will tell.


I'm sure there are both those ES though never announced are pretty generally thought to be small. Not to mention if the piece is nice enough even those that have the other versions will buy them. Plus I think there's enough fans overall that seem to be pretty much just statue fans.
 
I will not buy any items from sideshow LOTR maquette line, until I know that the fellowship will indeed be completed (costume between Rivendell and Moria). Once they have made all of the characters, I will go back and purchase all of them, even if it's above retail. At this point, I have no faith in sideshow when it comes to completing the fellowship in any of their lines.
 
I think the cresting of the hill has long been the dream of collectors. I would love diorama of it or of the Council of Elrond. Neither are dynamic though which is probably why it will never happen.

A-MEN to that brotha! Believe we've been mentioning this online and chat since 04-05? In fact, some of us even had a chance to chime in very clearly during one of our SS/Freaks parties in San Diego (06 or 07 I believe). It was a very informal (yet sober) survey of a few of us die-hard LOTR collectors, but still very impassioned in our request, with our willingness to getting it (and paying for it) in interlocking pieces parts if need be due to potential size issues. But still no nibbles for us....so I guess it won't happen. :gah: :(
 
I means we're over half way to getting them. Thats a good thing and should show the strong willingness to get this done. For me I'll ride that bit of positive energy instead of being a buzz kill.

Were well over half way with the 12" figure line and we know how that ended. Are almost half way with the PF's, but that's not looking good.
So sure, not wanting to be a buzz kill, but lets be realistic. It's not happened till it has actually happened and based on the past, it's not looking good for all 9 at this stage.

I'm sure there are both those ES though never announced are pretty generally thought to be small. Not to mention if the piece is nice enough even those that have the other versions will buy them. Plus I think there's enough fans overall that seem to be pretty much just statue fans.

No real idea about the ES for Sam & Bill or Merry, sure, they may not be that big, but if one wants either, you can get them without too much trouble.
While I can't speak for other owners, for myself, it won't matter what a future SS Sam or Merry is like. I avoid duplicates (why get the same character, when there are others I don't have at all), I'm veyr happy with Merry and in the words of woodsy, I already have the 'ultimate' Sam, so why do I need another.
 
Were well over half way with the 12" figure line and we know how that ended. Are almost half way with the PF's, but that's not looking good. So sure, not wanting to be a buzz kill, but lets be realistic. It's not happened till it has actually happened and based on the past, it's not looking good for all 9 at this stage.

Yeah, it ended before it should have. Sadly just not a market most LOTR fans can get into. The PF's could still happen. I think a lot will depend on flow and sales of things.

I'm being realistic. This is a market in which LOTR fans have shown they're willing to buy. That they are more accepting of things. I think both pieces overall have been accepted quite well with what else we've seen getting nice words of encouragement. So that being said I'm quite confident that we'll see all 9 members of the Fellowship in this line.

No real idea about the ES for Sam & Bill or Merry, sure, they may not be that big, but if one wants either, you can get them without too much trouble.

Well, they're supposed to be both somewhat tiny if my memory serves me correctly. As far as being easy to get. There's only one on ebay right now for Sam and none of Merry. They do pop up but its not like when they sold at really hot back in the day.

While I can't speak for other owners, for myself, it won't matter what a future SS Sam or Merry is like. I avoid duplicates (why get the same character, when there are others I don't have at all), I'm veyr happy with Merry and in the words of woodsy, I already have the 'ultimate' Sam, so why do I need another.

Well, then I guess you can wait it out to get the characters you're missing. Sideshow or another company isn't gonna not do those just because they've been made. Just not gonna happen.
 
Having been impressed with Weta's way of doing things - having a poll and asking us, the fans, what we want to see first and next, i'd have liked SS to do that with alot of their lines. I understand they have ALOT of different licences, but i still think it would have saved them some time and money. Imagine if Weta had got the maquette line back, and they gave us a poll of what characters we would like to see first. I doubt Aragorn and GTG would have got anywhere near the top. We'd probably be getting a prologue elven warrior or Eomer on steed, Arwen on steed, Mouth of Sauron.... and then returning to do improvements on old statues like Aragorn later. But obviously with SS they see this as a chance to start from the beginning and accomodate those collectors who missed out from the SSW days. Personally i would have liked Weta to have the maquettes, and continue where they left off. Sideshow starting all over again is pointless to me personally, and if you missed out the first time you could just go back and buy them now, most of them aren't more expensive apart from the grails. :dunno
 
I'm being realistic. This is a market in which LOTR fans have shown they're willing to buy. That they are more accepting of things. I think both pieces overall have been accepted quite well with what else we've seen getting nice words of encouragement. So that being said I'm quite confident that we'll see all 9 members of the Fellowship in this line.

True, 1/6th scale polystone statues do have a history, but then at the same time, there is that history that SS are now competing against. Just on US eBay, I found 3 Weta GtG statues in like 10seconds at around half the price for the new SS one. Add to that, SS have to sell a whole new bunch of Aragorn's, Gandalf's, Legolas's, Gimli's and Boromir's before even getting to the Hobbits. Now sure, they may still do it, but given the past, if the sales aren't there, isn't not going to happen and if SS are counting on current collectors to buy them all up, those that already have the SSW ones, have a Aragorn and/or Legolas PF, have a Gandalf PF on order, etc then I'm just not sure it's going to happen.

Don't get me wrong, I hope it does, then everyone's happy, I just won't be surprised if it doesn't.
 
Having been impressed with Weta's way of doing things - having a poll and asking us, the fans, what we want to see first and next, i'd have liked SS to do that with alot of their lines. I understand they have ALOT of different licences, but i still think it would have saved them some time and money.

The big difference is Weta has a much easier time with that. Look at the lines they do this with: Ray Gun, D9, Kong, Narnia, etc. Thats much easier to do since they most likely directly own the licenses to those. The environments they're doing probably a bit easier to do since they don't have to get likeness approval for something like that.

With Sideshow they see who we talk about and they do polls as well. They're limited though on what they can ask I'm sure as well as having to get like I said likeness rights. They may also have things dictated to them a bit as well for all I know. Its just a bit different.


Imagine if Weta had got the maquette line back, and they gave us a poll of what characters we would like to see first. I doubt Aragorn and GTG would have got anywhere near the top.

Possibly would have been different especially if they only asked one board. Thats really no way to do things IMO.

We'd probably be getting a prologue elven warrior or Eomer on steed, Arwen on steed, Mouth of Sauron.... and then returning to do improvements on old statues like Aragorn later.


Possibly gotten those if they again had just asked one message board. Is that fair though to let one board dictate how a line goes? Out of those Mouth of Sauron and Eomer would be ones I would get. The other two I'd probably pass on.

But obviously with SS they see this as a chance to start from the beginning and accomodate those collectors who missed out from the SSW days.

Its a chance I'm sure at that. Not to mention people who have gotten rid of things over the years.


Personally i would have liked Weta to have the maquettes, and continue where they left off.

I don't know. I would expect you to feel that way though.

Sideshow starting all over again is pointless to me personally, and if you missed out the first time you could just go back and buy them now, most of them aren't more expensive apart from the grails. :dunno

Well, thats you. Its not starting over though really as this isn't a continuation of that line. Its a brand new line. There are only 185 pieces on ebay right now and most of them are bust and stuff like that it looks like.

True, 1/6th scale polystone statues do have a history, but then at the same time, there is that history that SS are now competing against. Just on US eBay, I found 3 Weta GtG statues in like 10seconds at around half the price for the new SS one. Add to that, SS have to sell a whole new bunch of Aragorn's, Gandalf's, Legolas's, Gimli's and Boromir's before even getting to the Hobbits.

There is a bit of history but there isn't that many of those pieces out there. Like I said above I found 185 pieces using the search term Lord Of The Rings Weta. Maybe in the mid 200's total. So I think there are enough folks like me that have been around that will get these and new folks to get these to keep things going.

Well, the GTG if I remember correctly did have a decent edition size though its open. There's always been a bit of ease getting that piece. Plus for as popular as the character is its never been one that commanded a high price. Its one of my faves but there are a few issues with it.

The others are gonna be easy sellers I think. Gimli's piece looks totally badass. I can't wait to order it and set it with my Gimli SSW piece (which is still one of the few I have). Legolas looks like it could be a better piece than the SSW one in just about every way. Boromir is something totally different. A pose I've seen requested many times. So again I think will be fine. Honestly, I think pieces like Arwen are more likely to struggle than say Aragorn or GTG.

Now sure, they may still do it, but given the past, if the sales aren't there, isn't not going to happen and if SS are counting on current collectors to buy them all up, those that already have the SSW ones, have a Aragorn and/or Legolas PF, have a Gandalf PF on order, etc then I'm just not sure it's going to happen.

Don't get me wrong, I hope it does, then everyone's happy, I just won't be surprised if it doesn't.

I think the sales will be just fine for this line I really do. I think the ES of pieces need to stay around Aragorns size and things will be just fine. I also don't think everyone takes the same approach you're talking about. Just because you may have those doesn't mean folks won't buy these. I would say its pretty balanced. Besides pieces like the GTG will be in hand long before the statue.
 
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I don't know. I would expect you to feel that way though.

Well, thats you. Its not starting over though really as this isn't a continuation of that line. Its a brand new line.

lol, you would wouldn't you ;) It's not that i'm biased towards Weta, it's purely for selfish reasons, in that i have the old SSW stuff so personally would love the line to continue from there, but as you say it's not a continuation for SS, it's a start of SS's own line.
That's strange, your last quote says it's mine but Guru said it :lol
 
lol, you would wouldn't you ;) It's not that i'm biased towards Weta, it's purely for selfish reasons, in that i have the old SSW stuff so personally would love the line to continue from there, but as you say it's not a continuation for SS, it's a start of SS's own line.
That's strange, your last quote says it's mine but Guru said it :lol

May or may not be the case with you but I do believe that this is the case for some without a doubt. I love the SSW stuff. It will always hold a very special place in my heart. I just think if SS line is given a chance by fans it will be just fine.

Yeah, don't know why it did that but i fixed it. :lol
 
It has been really interesting to read how people define the "Fellowship" appearance of these characters, as it seems like everyone has a different idea! For me, the iconic representations for each character reflect how they looked in the Fellowship of the Rings, but not necessarily scene specific.

I thought that Weta really nailed the look of all of the characters, except Pippin. The portraits may not be the most accurate, but they represent the look and feel of the characters. Frodo has the ring and looks pensive, Sam is tending to Bill, Merry is mischevious and stealing Farmer Maggot's crops. I like that they capture them as hobbits, regardless of them having their gear from Rivendell.

I am really looking forward to Boromir in the maquette line in the Gondorian armor, or Legolas with the Helm's Deep armor, but I feel like the Legolas PF is more iconic, and I hope that the Boromir PF will be similar, capturing is look in the Fellowship of the Ring.
 
personally I think all the "fellowship" spread out across the three films in varying costumes is a neat idea. They are still the fellowship, just in different stages of their journey.

While I do think we will get the fellowship in the 12" statue line eventually; do you think we will also see some baddies eventually. Maybe just to break up the line a bit?!
 
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