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Yes. They're the same. They have preservatives in them. Same thing the Egyptian gods put in their happy meals.

I've left dishes out for a while with food on them. All kinds of food. It dries up, and then it sits there. No mold. Most food has it, particularly if it's pre-packaged. I'm definitely missing the big reveal here. Air is a powerful corrosive, but it's not what your body uses to break down food.

If someone wants to show me the experiment, conducted in laboratories by real scientists, that says preservatives in food are something to worry about, I'm all ears. I realize that food without them is better for you, but I'm yet to be convinced that food with them is genuinely bad.
 
Yes. They're the same. They have preservatives in them. Same thing the Egyptian gods put in their happy meals.

I've left dishes out for a while with food on them. All kinds of food. It dries up, and then it sits there. No mold. Most food has it, particularly if it's pre-packaged. I'm definitely missing the big reveal here. Air is a powerful corrosive, but it's not what your body uses to break down food.

If someone wants to show me the experiment, conducted in laboratories by real scientists, that says preservatives in food are something to worry about, I'm all ears. I realize that food without them is better for you, but I'm yet to be convinced that food with them is genuinely bad.

Do what you want but the human body isnt made to breakdown man made elements. Ever wonder why there is a rise in cancer and other things like that?
 
Really? Being man-made is the standard of what cannot be broken down?

Like I said, I'll take opinions from scientists, thanks.

Tell me one natural thing that is cunsumed daily that is bad for you and tell me one thing made in a lab that man modified that is good for you? :impatient::impatient::impatient:
 
Natural things that are bad for you aren't consumed daily. And there are a lot of them. So natural is no standard to determine if a thing is good.

Most food is in some way modified for one reason or another. Does this mean that none of it is capable of providing nutrion, or that all of it will give you cancer?

The fear of man-made food, simply because it is man-made, is a superstition.
 
Tell me one natural thing that is cunsumed daily that is bad for you and tell me one thing made in a lab that man modified that is good for you? :impatient::impatient::impatient:

Gluten. Gluten is bad for humans. Some humans more than others, but still, it's not good for humans. Our systems are in the middle of evolving to the point where it's good for us to eat. Couple more thousands of years maybe. And they put it in damn near everything. Soy sauce? Gluten. Modified food starch? Gluten. McDonald's frys? Gluten. Blue cheese?!? Gluten. And research is showing that all the gluten is causing cancer in people who are gluten sensitive which is a staggeringly large number of people and almost all of them are unaware of it. Gluten. It makes the monkey cry. :monkey2
 
So gluten sensitivity isn't the same as Celiac disease?

If you ask me they are the one and the same but some doctors don't agree with me. But it's really all semantics.

I think of it as there are stages to Celiac with gluten sensitive is the lowest level of the disease and that it can progress from there. And I've read some articles advocating that logic. But the medical industry doesn't agree with me. But like I said, it's semantics.
 
I see. I know that for people with Celiac, gluten strips the lining of their small intestines. It would make sense that they'd be more susceptible to cancer because raw tissue has little to no defense against carcinogen exposure.
 
I see. I know that for people with Celiac, gluten strips the lining of their small intestines. It would make sense that they'd be more susceptible to cancer because raw tissue has little to no defense against carcinogen exposure.

Almost. Whether it's Celiac or gluten sensitivity it's an autoimmune disorder. Instead of recognizing gluten as food the immune system thinks it's an antigen so it creates its own antibody to fight it. The antibody does the damage, not the gluten. The antibody isn't localized to the gut either. It gets in the blood and starts wreaking havoc everywhere. And the more gluten the body comes in contact with and the more regular, the more efficient the body is at creating the antibody so that with time it gets absurdly worse. When the antibody's damage is in the gut, it's recognized as Celiac. But in the meantime it can cause MS, it can cause arthritis and skin rashes and fuzzy thinking and flu-like symptoms, it affects digestion and metabolism and can create a whole host of other issues and complications which in turn can snow-ball. And since it takes on average 10 years for diagnosis, people live with this compromised immune system for years which limits their body's ability to defend itself from actual threats.

And, so that's why I don't see a difference between gluten-sensitive people and those with Celiac Disease. It's the immune system that's out of whack, so why wait to pin a diagnosis on damage done to the gut? Makes no sense to me.
 
I feel blessed that we have so many experts on this board. From laws, to religion, and nutrition. Praise be to the Freaks. :rotfl
 
What's really funny is that I would never have taken offense if I didn't agree with exactly what you were talking about when you wrote that post.

I feel blessed that we have so many experts on this board. From laws, to religion, and nutrition. Praise be to the Freaks. :rotfl

:lecture :lecture :lecture
 
You know I figured you would take offense to that for some reason. I should have said from the get go Devil this is NOT directed at you. :rotfl

I got my head chopped off this morning on a post not directed strictly to Devil :lecture

True story.

I made him AAAAAAAAAAANGRY :lol
 
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