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LOTR was a classic example of how well practical effects and CG combined. But everybody praising Avatar were having fanboy trouser creampies over the "photorealistic" CG which to me just looked like your run of the mill CG.

I agree. Avatar was a pretty movie to watch and is a decent movie to pass the time but its not earth shattering either.
 
For me, a model, that you can tell is a model is only slightly better than CGI. The ESB Yoda looks like a puppet and the PT Yoda looks like a cartoon. I fail to see how one is really any better than the other.

The lightsaber is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. When the actors have actual sticks that represent then and are in full combat, you see the collisions and feel the impacts. Then, the glow is digitally drawn over the "blades" and a perfect blend is created between CG and practical effects. Just doing CG lightsabers with the actors pretending, using "invisible swords," there's no real impact, often arms are swung beyond the realistic limitation of a blocked blow, etc.

Indiana Jones and the Temple of Metamucil.

Aka, Indiana Jones and the Corn Nut Tsunami.
 
The lightsabers are a good example, I'll give you that one. There are definitely times where using a model is the better choice, but in terms of what looks more realistic I just don't think a puppet looks any more real than a CGI character.
 
The lightsabers are a good example, I'll give you that one. There are definitely times where using a model is the better choice, but in terms of what looks more realistic I just don't think a puppet looks any more real than a CGI character.

Its all about the overall effect. Both puppets and CGI are illusions meant to convey a living, breathing character. However every single aspect of a CG character is fake. They way the light hits them, the shadows they cast, folds, wrinkles, everything. With puppets you can relax your brain and take note of how well they blend in with the environment because they really are a part of the environment!

And much of acting is reactionary, and improvisational, but with CGI there's often nothing to react to at all. In ALIEN none of the actors knew that a disgusting looking puppet was going to burst out of John Hurt's chest. Ridley Scott didn't tell them because he knew he'd get the best performances if he filmed them simply reacting to the on-set effects. Imagine if instead he simply shouted "Look shocked! Something gross is happening!" and then they added in a cartoon effect later. The whole scene would have been different, not just the effect on the table.

There's just something so much more legitimite when I know that all actors on set really are looking at the same thing. When they're reacting and improvising based on what's really there. I'm not saying that CG is bad, there are definitely many times when its absolutely necessary. But if its ever possible to achieve the same effect with something on-set and practical that's always the best way to go.
 
Yeah, I get what you are saying there. I'm sure it is much easier to interact and react to something tangible. But at the same time acting is acting. Actors and actresses have to act shocked surprised all the time without actually seeing what is actually shocking them. Sure, a genuine reaction is best, but that's not always possible.

I still maintain, that for me at least, if I see a little creature that is clearly a puppet, I don't find it any more or less realistic looking than something that is CGI.

For the record, movie sets are something that I think is better as a production than CGI. A well built movie set does look real, a well done CGI set, not so much.
 
indiana jones and the social security bandits.

now run with me on this, indy goes to the mailbox to get his ss check and finds it's been heisted by the local street thugs. he doesn't attempt to retrieve the check from the thieves, but spends the day in the ss office trying to get a new one cut. he gets bounced from line to line until he finally decides to have a meltdown and fake a coronary. not much action but at least it's true to form for the character's age.
 
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