Iron Man Mark II Maquette by Sideshow Collectibles
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Guys, did you know that a MKII nameplate is also included with this piece? Surely that just about justifies the price no?
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Stop laughing Andy, i think i was just joking....... but they do it again!
The designer must like this Indo Board.
This is the greatest post you've ever made!
Some people around here need to chill. Jeez. Both the MkVI and War Machine Maquettes were more than this. Maybe licensing is different prices for different movies
In regards to the base....have some imagination jeez. So what if he didn't stand on it in the movie??? Is it that far fetched to think that he maybe did in some other moment not shown in the movie? You know, in that part of the room like 20 feet away?? Not one single piece is 100% movie accurate to a pose/base so just get over it. I think it looks quite nice tbh. Not getting it as I'm waiting for MkIII or VIII but still, it's quite nice. Production pics (AS ALWAYS) will determine if it's worth it or not.
I'm going to start by saying I respect your opinion, and understand where you're coming from on this.
That being said, I'm going to completely disagree with many of your points.
It's true those maquettes retailed more, nobody is denying that, I love mine as I own both and they are my 2 fave pieces atm. Let me start out of the gate that when I say "IM pieces" I'm referring specifically to Iron Man, and not War machine or any other character from the franchise.
However, the Mk 6 was plagued by qc issues most notably the peeling paint on the helmet. Also keep in mind, those 2 maquettes are heavy - not the hollow, eggshell thin (slush casted) 'figures' that Sideshow has come to be known for today. They didn't cut those corners then, so the price is a little more justified since they're legitimate statues and not the pinatas they sell today.
I'm not sure how licensing can cost more now for that film then it did when they released to Mk 1,
Sorry, but this is just an excuse. When the company makes this statement in the product description, they need to get it right - and they got it wrong again.
Sideshow is proud to bring you the ultimate screen-accurate representation of Tony’s first advanced prototype armor.
This isn't screen accurate, it's that simple.
False, and the 'get over it' is really the kicker here as this whole attitude is the reason why Sideshow hasn't released a solid Iron Man collectible in half a decade, they know guys like you will buy their junk regardless. Need proof?
- Their top of the line, $2000+ IM collectible, Mk 7 LS, is freaking purple; plagued with qc issues such as crappy paint and magnets that don't even hold the parts assembled - they crash to the floor
- After a TWO YEAR delay the Mk 6 bust was shipped with the arc reactor UPSIDE DOWN; also plagues with horrible paint issues. Instead of admitting there was an error, Sideshow covertly swapped out the product photo on it's site with a new one of the upside down arc. Niiiiiiiiiiice.
- The Mk 7 bust is so egg shell thin that the LED's shine not only through it;s eyes, but also through various points of the helmet such as the forehead, cheeks, and faceplate
- The Mk 2 bust paint app is amateur
- The Mk 3 BD bust is plagued with peeling paint problems
I could go on. The point is that after 5 years some of us want what we pay for. We're tired of of being duped by an awesome looking proto only to be shipped garbage again, and again, and again, then go through the headache of trying to get replacements through SS and argue with them over what they feel is an acceptable amount of qc issues or not. I get it, you're not one of those people, and that's your right. But, as you can read here many of us are, and telling us to 'get over it' and accept a constant stream of craptastic IM collectibles over half a decade from the 20 year industry leader who works hand in hand with Legacy Studios on them is lunacy imo.
Common sense would dictate that all collectors would want the best product possible when it's all said and done, but people making excuses for this company over and over is costing everyone in the end.
True their track record hasn't been great with IM, but my War Machine Maquette is one awesome ****ing piece
So they can get it right. Let's just wait and see instead of everyone acting like Sideshow is pulling tricks. That proto looks awesome in my eyes and if I wasn't basically only doing comic PFs at the moment, I'd consider it. So yea, let's wait and see when it arrives how it looks.
dude, 100% agree that war machine and mark Vi maquettes kick ass...two of my most prized pieces! But let's be honest...SSC used to give a **** about QC to a certain degree...now, forget about it!
As I said, I'm not buying it. Never was, never will be. I don't own any of the busts. I don't own the legendary scale figure. I've seen the problems with those and they are horrible. I would never buy that in a million years. I don't own the MkVI maquette due to the problems with the chin and that's why I never took the gamble on one, but I do regret I never did. I've been waiting for another 1/4 (red and gold) IM piece to come around and it's either going to be the MkIII, MkVII, or XM's MkVII so I'll eventually get the piece I want. I do really like this armor, but I just want a red and gold more than anything.
Yes the MkVI and WM Maquettes were solid. You can't 100% say that this won't be either. Everything is speculation at this point. You don't know if this is hollow just by looking at some prototype pics. I get it, you're a huge IM fan and I can see you've definitely been let down in the past few years with all the problems you state above. That sucks man. It really does, I'd be pissed too.
In regards to the base....nope. Still sticking with my argument. I can't think of a single piece that is 100% movie/screen accurate to a specific pose and scene. All of their statues have some artistic liberties when it comes to pose and base and this one is no exception. Your underlined/italicized sentence is probably just a reference to the armor design itself. Nothing more. I'm just saying that the details are what they mean, not the pose and base environment. Now is the armor 100% accurate? I don't know I'm not the expert so I'll leave that up to you.
In the end, what I am saying....and I'm just repeating the last sentence of my original statement here....what I am saying is production pics (AS ALWAYS) will determine if it's worth it or not. That's all. Let's just see how it comes out instead of go all ape**** over some prototype pics and speculate on how much sideshow sucks and how much this will suck and how much better anyone else is than sideshow. I'm not trying to pick on you Yankee (and I'm only responding to you because you responded to me, this is more for everyone who's overly negative already about this piece) because I like your opinion on stuff in general and we have the same tastes just about, but I just don't like how everything on these boards regarding sideshow lately is always so negative. I mean, look at the Hellboy PF, look at the Superman comic PF, Batman PF, heck all the DC stuff looks awesome, Allied Charge Cap is looking good so far, etc........they still do make some really nice stuff so let's just wait till it's released and then take it from there. If it sucks then, heh, well you can say "I told you so", but until then I think it's just best we all relax and enjoy some stuff for once in a while.
Yes the MkVI and WM Maquettes were solid. You can't 100% say that this won't be either. Everything is speculation at this point. You don't know if this is hollow just by looking at some prototype pics. I get it, you're a huge IM fan and I can see you've definitely been let down in the past few years with all the problems you state above. That sucks man. It really does, I'd be pissed too.
In regards to the base....nope. Still sticking with my argument. I can't think of a single piece that is 100% movie/screen accurate to a specific pose and scene. All of their statues have some artistic liberties when it comes to pose and base and this one is no exception. Your underlined/italicized sentence is probably just a reference to the armor design itself. Nothing more. I'm just saying that the details are what they mean, not the pose and base environment. Now is the armor 100% accurate? I don't know I'm not the expert so I'll leave that up to you.
In the end, what I am saying....and I'm just repeating the last sentence of my original statement here....what I am saying is production pics (AS ALWAYS) will determine if it's worth it or not. That's all. Let's just see how it comes out instead of go all ape**** over some prototype pics and speculate on how much sideshow sucks and how much this will suck and how much better anyone else is than sideshow. I'm not trying to pick on you Yankee (and I'm only responding to you because you responded to me, this is more for everyone who's overly negative already about this piece) because I like your opinion on stuff in general and we have the same tastes just about, but I just don't like how everything on these boards regarding sideshow lately is always so negative. I mean, look at the Hellboy PF, look at the Superman comic PF, Batman PF, heck all the DC stuff looks awesome, Allied Charge Cap is looking good so far, etc........they still do make some really nice stuff so let's just wait till it's released and then take it from there. If it sucks then, heh, well you can say "I told you so", but until then I think it's just best we all relax and enjoy some stuff for once in a while.
QC is one thing and accepting defects during purchase is another.
Unless most of you are buying via postage, there is no issue buying from local retailers where inspection is done before payment. Furthermore, retailers offer discounts off retail price.
I only buy via postage if it's an exclusive or its sold out from local stores.
I have 80+ statues from Sideshow and never gotten a defect this way.
Giving sideshow benefit of doubt, some blame should be on the courier / postal delivery .... remember Ace Ventura?
Now, if SS is to play the game of PCS or XM, they could start offering coins (roll eyes) or COH etc for small ES exclusives and give flippers a field day .... but I'm thankful they don't 'cos I don't want to spend more money ordering online + shipping etc..
Unless most of you are buying via postage, there is no issue buying from local retailers where inspection is done before payment. Furthermore, retailers offer discounts off retail price.
I only buy via postage if it's an exclusive or its sold out from local stores.
I have 80+ statues from Sideshow and never gotten a defect this way.
Giving sideshow benefit of doubt, some blame should be on the courier / postal delivery .... remember Ace Ventura?
Now, if SS is to play the game of PCS or XM, they could start offering coins (roll eyes) or COH etc for small ES exclusives and give flippers a field day .... but I'm thankful they don't 'cos I don't want to spend more money ordering online + shipping etc..
Good post and classy response. I don't expect everyone's opinions to line up, never have. I'm not going to speak on what goes on in other sections of this board, as I'm not a collector of Hellboy, etc and I don't know the ins and outs of those collectibles like I do with IM. I've said it earlier in this thread and I'll say it again, SS does make some fantastic pieces, most notably their Court of the Dead line. Imo that's by far the best products they offer at this time. That being said, Marvel IM has been the polar opposite and admittedly I'm at the boiling point lol.
Btw gajin, SS offers COH with Hulkbuster, Mk 42 and IP so I'm not sure why you're banging on XM for doing the same thing. More display options is a positive imo.
I can understand being at the boiling point Take my signature for their pricing point on Luke for instance.
I hope for everyone's sake this thing is awesome.
And yea, COHs are awesome lol. Not sure why we wouldn't want those.
Take my signature for their pricing point on Luke for instance. I hope for everyone's sake this thing is awesome.
And yea, COHs are awesome lol. Not sure why we wouldn't want those.
Spidey976
Super Freak
Any assumption that this is going to suck when it comes out is simply that, and assumption. NOW I am not saying it isn't an assumption based on past practises and recent **** up on SSCs part. The MOS **** show being the most recent and possibly the most egregious I have seen. However, SSC has gotten shell head right in the past, and it could happen again. The in hand pics will be the only real way to judge.
I'm banging on XM because of the coins. As to their questionable distribution (sell out 999 ES in minutes to an hour depending on reseller), that's another issue.
The low ES / exclusives strategy is also PCS .... sell out within minutes.
Of course, the above is more about hype / panic than benefit collectors for choice of displays.
The low ES / exclusives strategy is also PCS .... sell out within minutes.
Of course, the above is more about hype / panic than benefit collectors for choice of displays.
Well offering a coin is similar to offering a name plate imo.
Low ES vs High ES is an entirely different issue. Sure, there's people who will buy a low ES due to the hype, not going to argue that. However, I think we can agree some collectors like knowing the collectibles they buy are somewhat collectible, ie limited, or in some cases very rare.
RobertoBagg10
Super Freak
As ever when it comes to debating on this forum, i always like to be polite and start it with the sentence....'I totally respect your opinion' which I do buddy
but I feel that when you are designing a base for a particular character, I find that it usually goes down a lot better when the design usually relates to that character (and if it's based on a particular movie, then it would be even better to have that base relate to a certain or particular scene from that movie of which the character is taken from. Its not that I lack imagination, I for one love the design of the base...very much infact, however, this base I feel would have been perfect for say the MKIII maquette
You actually see Stark in the first Iron Man movie after returning from Afghanistan when he is spotted by Pepper Potts on the gantry as he attempts to get un-suited...so that would've really worked in my opinion.Is it that far fetched to think that he maybe did in some other moment not shown in the movie? To answer your question, yes I think it is far fetched...the pose has him about to fire out from one of his palm repulsors in attack mode...I don't recall him ever firing out at something or someone in the movie...especially not while he's standing on the gantry
So it's all a bit of a weird design concept for me.The other art concepts we've seen so far from the other releases in this line such as the MKV (Racing Car Track base) and MKIII (Battle Damaged Iron Monger base) all kinda make sense to me...
Once again, there is no right or wrong in this debate as it is all about personal preferences at the end of the day. However, my preference would have been the MKII in a museum pose and standing on a flat gantry before he takes to flight as seen in the movie
With that said, it is what is now and nothing is gonna change the way it looks from here on in so I'm very grateful just to have the opportunity to add another IM piece to the collection and i'll be back here tomorrow typing those emphatic words...ORDERED!!!! 
And the hate for the base, pfft .... there's no rule how screen accurate the base needs to be compared to the movie. Do you all just prefer a flat tarmac/tiled floor (stark's warehouse floor in movie) ?
Actually....yes! That would've been awesome!
I will raise you Marc I'd pay $500 to see that pose and base! You've hit the nail on the head Eric...you see its nothing to do with not having an imagination in regards to having to imagine the MKII in this pose that Sideshow have chosen and on the open gantry base that Sideshow have decided to go ahead with...the whole piece, especially movie related pieces, needs to at least be relevant to the movie from which it is taken from and in my opinion...this MKII isn't The Armour itself maybe screen accurate - only time will tell if that is infact the case...the pose and base certainly are not.
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As ever when it comes to debating on this forum, i always like to be polite and start it with the sentence....'I totally respect your opinion' which I do buddy
Its not that I lack imagination, I for one love the design of the base...very much infact, however, this base I feel would have been perfect for say the MKIII maquette
Is it that far fetched to think that he maybe did in some other moment not shown in the movie? To answer your question, yes I think it is far fetched...the pose has him about to fire out from one of his palm repulsors in attack mode...I don't recall him ever firing out at something or someone in the movie...especially not while he's standing on the gantry
The other art concepts we've seen so far from the other releases in this line such as the MKV (Racing Car Track base) and MKIII (Battle Damaged Iron Monger base) all kinda make sense to me...
Once again, there is no right or wrong in this debate as it is all about personal preferences at the end of the day. However, my preference would have been the MKII in a museum pose and standing on a flat gantry before he takes to flight as seen in the movie
Actually....yes! That would've been awesome!
I completely agree with you bud. Very odd, seeing as the next few pieces will have accurate movie representation. I think the pose is really horrible, legs wide open, preparing to fire his repulsors....all wrong
BUT
Like you, I'll be ordering tomorrow
Collectorcol
Super Freak
That statement makes no promises with regards to the Diorama base. It's saying that the 'Prototype Aromr' is 'Screen Accurate'.
Some will like their artistic license on the base design, others won't.
RobertoBagg10
Super Freak
I completely agree with you bud. Very odd, seeing as the next few pieces will have accurate movie representation. I think the pose is really horrible, legs wide open, preparing to fire his repulsors....all wrong
BUT
Like you, I'll be ordering tomorrow
Great news Ben!!
Congrats buddy Btw, now that you've got the MKVI and War Machine maquettes, how many of these new 1/4 scale IM maquettes will you be getting?
just read your PM bro...looks like we've got a battle on in regards to getting the MKI 
Grumpy Bear
Super Freak
Last night i have a dream. I´m not a pro designer, but do my best for you guys to show it.
Can´t stop to laugh! 
Can´t stop to laugh!
Collectorcol
Super Freak
It's his first attempt at an armor, outside the cave, which involves trial & error.
He's going to be a bit unsteady the first time he uses it.
I think it's a great design which can only be spoiled by the factories.
Hopefully they can nail it.
He's going to be a bit unsteady the first time he uses it.
I think it's a great design which can only be spoiled by the factories.
Hopefully they can nail it.
RobertoBagg10
Super Freak
Last night i have a dream. I´m not a pro designer, but do my best for you guys to show it.
Can´t stop to laugh!
Chris you are making me piss myself laughing at work bro classic!
The other art concepts we've seen so far from the other releases in this line such as the MKV (Racing Car Track base) and MKIII (Battle Damaged Iron Monger base) all kinda make sense to me...
Once again, there is no right or wrong in this debate as it is all about personal preferences at the end of the day. However, my preference would have been the MKII in a museum pose and standing on a flat gantry before he takes to flight as seen in the movie
I guess you can spin it that way. As Andy noted, all the other teases have their respective armors on bases that coincide with scenes from the films so
Last night i have a dream. I´m not a pro designer, but do my best for you guys to show it.
Can´t stop to laugh!
Is he going to shoot Jaws when he comes up to eat him?
Grumpy Bear
Super Freak
Maybe you have a radio on work try to listen on "Beach Boys - Surfin' USA" if you watch the pic.
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