No? Well thats ____in' lame! Who makes these rules?!?!?
But I starting having sex with a girl when I was 16, still a legal minor, so.....
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Is there ever a time when a minor deserves the death penalty?
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Anyone who thinks that justice is impractical has convinced themselves that it is practical to live under injustice. I disagree.
As for children not being fully mature enough to exercise their rights, it's a matter of debate where that age lies. If they are old enough to be held responsible for murder, they should be old enough to be held responsible for breeding.
If society is attempting to impose an ideal vision upon them in face of the facts, who is being impractical now?
Somebody should have told me that when I was 18. Thank you for reinforcing it.
As for children not being fully mature enough to exercise their rights, it's a matter of debate where that age lies. If they are old enough to be held responsible for murder, they should be old enough to be held responsible for breeding.
If society is attempting to impose an ideal vision upon them in face of the facts, who is being impractical now?
Over thinkers such as yourself need to stay away from psychedlic drugs
Somebody should have told me that when I was 18. Thank you for reinforcing it.
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Anyone who thinks that justice is impractical has convinced themselves that it is practical to live under injustice. I disagree.
As for children not being fully mature enough to exercise their rights, it's a matter of debate where that age lies. If they are old enough to be held responsible for murder, they should be old enough to be held responsible for breeding.
If society is attempting to impose an ideal vision upon them in face of the facts, who is being impractical now?
Somebody should have told me that when I was 18. Thank you for reinforcing it.
This has nothing to do with justice being impractical or not, it's about acknowledging that in the real world you can't always serve justice and order equally, at some point there comes a time where one takes priority over another when both can't be met at the same time, like in this case with the 13y/o rapist. I believe that justice and order should be served equally as well, most people do, but I'm also conscious enough to know it's impossible to have a perfect system that can always satisfy both.
If justice allows the young boy who assaulted/raped the girl out of jail because he's served his time as a minor, then the system has failed to serve order as soon as you knowingly let the convict step foot outside prison and into society. If you give the minor a life/death sentence to maintain order, you are judging the boy as an adult and are treating him with a double standard and failed to be completely just. Point of the matter is either route you go, you're sacrificing one side to satisfy the other, the only way either side seems fair is if you're blinded and can only see one side. For any injustice in one method, I can argue that the opposite method fails to maintain order, only difference is that you put justice in a higher priority, making the exact same mistake as the opposing side. Priority is what took place, and the court decided that it's more important to serve order than be completely just for the young boy, hence the kid is being trialed as an adult in order to preserve the safety of the people.
Also to note, Kids are being trialed as minors, nothing has changed. This case is an exception just like any other exceptions out there, like when parents can let their child (a minor) drink a little bit of alcohol in a wedding dinner, just a little bit, that won't get anyone in trouble with the court. Again, an exception. It's all about the degree of your crime. A hardened "one rule rules all" mentality never worked for organic beings who can think in more than a flat dimension. No you can't get away from killing someone at the age of 8, and no you can't have sex at the age of 8. And it's very practical, it's worked wonderfully thus far. Impractical is when you start letting 8 years old killing people without proper punishment, or letting 8 year olds having sex with each other without enforcing some kind of prohibition law.
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devilof76
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How does letting a rapist/attempted murderer go free for serving time as a minor register in your mind as an act of justice?
And stop insulting my intelligence. Who do you think you are?
And stop insulting my intelligence. Who do you think you are?
I was drinking, smoking and having sex when I was a minor
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That's in response to what you say about a minor who's not allowed to drink/have sex, should not be trialed as an adult. It was your argument that you find justice in letting the boy trialed as a minor when he assaulted/raped the girl. I, on the other hand, am against it.
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devilof76
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I don't believe that a 13 year old who rapes and attempts murder should be shown leniency. If they are under the age of majority, then by legal definition, they should be tried as a minor. Where I disagree is that there should be no difference in how a minor is treated for what are supposedly adult crimes. I think a 13 year old should be held fully accountable for their actions, as they're capable of understanding the consequences.
By the same token, they're also capable of understanding the consequences of having sex. The difference is that sex between minors is not comparable to rape and attempted murder.
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I agree with everything you just said there.
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Well, alright then.
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