IT: Chapter Two

[kiwiatlarge]

Re: IT: Chapter 2 (September 6th, 2019)

In the book from what I remember 20 odd years ago it was Henry Bowers and his boys that were in the closet..

 

[jye4ever]

Re: IT: Chapter 2 (September 6th, 2019)

Both 1 and 2 suck.

What these 2 movies need is for a new team to come in and ignore the book then take all of the 8-9 hours they filmed and rework the entire thing into an evenly paced non repetitive character group study scare fest epic masterpiece.

Film new scenes if needed with PW in new demon forms maybe different Clown looks.

As is what a scare less mess with a very cool yet wasted monster.


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[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: IT: Chapter 2 (September 6th, 2019)

I could see a fan edit of IT 1 & 2.

Regardless, Pennywise >>> Jason, Mayers, Freddy, Ghostface, Leatherface, and that dumb shark.

Only Chucky is better. Chucky the goat.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: IT: Chapter 2 (September 6th, 2019)

Also, Pennywise >> stupid monkey.

 

[jye4ever]

IT: Chapter 2 (September 6th, 2019)

I could see a fan edit of IT 1 & 2.

Regardless, Pennywise >>> Jason, Mayers, Freddy, Ghostface, Leatherface, and that dumb shark.

Only Chucky is better. Chucky the goat.

Actually I agree that PW > Jason/Freddy/Leatherface/Pin Head especially since Jason wasn?t even the killer in the only great F13th movie and i?m not a huge Freddy/Leatherface/Hellraiser fan anyways.

However The Shape (screw Myers) in H1 is as good as PW as is Regan from Exorcist 1.

PW is indeed a great monster.


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[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: IT: Chapter 2 (September 6th, 2019)

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PW is indeed a great monster.

You were supposed to disagree!!!

 

[kiwiatlarge]

Re: IT: Chapter 2 (September 6th, 2019)

Depends on the movie in each franchise.. I'd say Hellraiser 1 Pinhead and Elm Street 1 Freddy are the shiz. But then they just became cartoon parodies of themselves.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: IT: Chapter 2 (September 6th, 2019)

Bill Skarsgard is very young. I could see him playing Penny for the next 30 years.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: IT: Chapter 2 (September 6th, 2019)

The Birds of Prey trailer was shown and nobody cared. Such a weird choice from WB to have Harley Queen say she's tired of clowns when WB has two films staring a clown this year.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: IT: Chapter 2 (September 6th, 2019)

The Birds of Prey trailer was shown and nobody cared. Such a weird choice from WB to have Harley Queen say she's tired of clowns when WB has two films staring a clown this year.

Yeah that looks absolutely horrible lol

Next year is very weak for genre cinema.




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[Wor-Gar]

Re: IT: Chapter 2 (September 6th, 2019)

Did I miss Jye's review on this movie?

 

[ShadowX81]

Re: IT: Chapter 2 (September 6th, 2019)

My biggest problem with the film was actually that they showed Pennywise way too much. It felt tired and drawn out to me to have every character go on an journey of self discovery in which they both have to engage in a giant CGI battle with Pennywise; and recall a conspicuously unmentioned CGI battle with Pennywise that happened during the timeline of the first film but for some reason none of them mentioned. In addition to really adding to the run time of an already somewhat bloated movie, it really killed a lot of the fear surrounding him to have him so out in the open so often; especially in such over the top ways. Felt too much like an indulgent spectacle.

At a certain point, I wondered why Pennywise didn't just turn into a normal person and just murder the main characters on the street considering how many opportunities he had to easily kill them that he wasted toying with them.

I would have preferred if they had kept him more in the background; keeping the scene with the couple on the bridge and the girl under the bleachers to let the audience know that he's still out there, but also have the main characters really have to work in order to find him. Play on the aspect that he is largely invisible to adults, maybe even having the main characters questioning if the events of the first movie even happened; slowly discovering clues that make them realize that yes; Pennywise is still out there and they need to find a way to stop him. Maybe having Bill coming face to face with him in the mirror maze be the first time our characters actually see him.

I also didn't like that the way to defeat Pennywise was layed out so early in the movie as sort of a recipe, which both took away from the characters having to use ingenuity to defeat an ancient and seemingly unkillable force of nature; and wasn't even made that clear.

To be honest, a lot of things in this movie weren't made clear. From Pennywise's history, to Mike's plan to kill him, to the secret Mike hid from them, to Stanley's reason for suicide (as if the threat they were facing wasn't a good enough narrative justification), to how Pennywise eventually died.

Another thing is the comedy. This film leaned way too far into it; turning a lot of things (including the monster himself) into a straight up joke at times, really killing the sinister and frightening tone this movie should have had. The Eddie character was the worst of it. I get the character is supposed to be neurotic and bad at dealing with stress; but his mannerisms and certain editing choices played up the goofy aspect; making him come off as too tongue-in-cheek even in serious situations. At the end of the day; I just wasn't scared by it. Which should be the goal of a horror movie.

Also as stated by a lot of others; the bully could have been cut entirely as he doesn't add anything to the plot or even drive it forward. Same with the clubhouse scene. Its hard to feel a sense of nostalgia for a scene that we didn't even know existed until they showed it to us after the fact.

 

[jye4ever]

IT: Chapter 2 (September 6th, 2019)

Did I miss Jye's review on this movie?

Yes and it was very lengthy I wrote IT SUCKED!

Get it IT SUCKED lol

I went to watch it when I should?ve not went, I was going on only 2 hours sleep in 2 days and cranky as all hell after having argued with the wife and dealing with son school grade issues what a mistake it was going lol

Actually it didn?t suck suck i?m just being a **** and if anything I actually enjoyed it more than first but I think both movies need some serious tweaking to create a better experience.


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[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: IT: Chapter 2 (September 6th, 2019)

Yes and it was very lengthy I wrote IT SUCKED!

Get it IT SUCKED lol

I went to watch it when I should?ve not went, I was going on only 2 hours sleep in 2 days and cranky as all hell after having argued with the wife and dealing with son school grade issues what a mistake it was going lol


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You need eight hours of sleep and have an empty bladder to enjoy this film. I think it has replay value and you will end up liking it more if you watch it again on your tv.

 

[jye4ever]

IT: Chapter 2 (September 6th, 2019)

My wife wants to now go AFTER saying she would be skipping it FML

Adult diapers are a great recommendation from the LOTR EE crowd lol

Was their memory amnesia stuff from the book or created just for the movie.

At one point I started thinking the actual town was going to be an illusion and they were in some cosmic black hole lol


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[Wor-Gar]

Re: IT: Chapter 2 (September 6th, 2019)

I'm definitely curious what you will think of IT on a 2nd viewing.

Anyway, only 3 months to Star Wars.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: IT: Chapter 2 (September 6th, 2019)

My wife wants to now go AFTER saying she would be skipping it FML

Are you sure she's not Pennywise.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: IT: Chapter 2 (September 6th, 2019)

I'm definitely curious what you will think of IT on a 2nd viewing.

Anyway, only 3 months to Star Wars.

You forgot Joker

Are you sure she's not Pennywise.

Holy crap I just showed her this I am crying I can?t stop laughing holy crap


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[Wor-Gar]

Re: IT: Chapter 2 (September 6th, 2019)

You forgot Joker

Trying...

No matter how good (or bad) the movie is, I don't like his 'clown' get-up.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: IT: Chapter 2 (September 6th, 2019)

There's a six hour cut of this film.

I can't imagine what happens in those 3 extra hours. I have to say, the mini series handled certain things better than this film, like Bill's bike, Bill's wife and her role in the story, mullet guy's escape from the hospital, and Stan's death. The acting is better in this film and the visuals are far superior, but this film didn't do a good job telling a story. Also, the film promotes suicide, which is totally weird and wrong. I was fine with the suicide as part of Penny's curse or powers corrupting the losers minds until they all would have ended up dead by their own hand, but the film ultimately tries to justified Stan's decision as his own for the benefit of the group and the "mission." That's bull****. He was weak and he killed himself. End of story, no need to make him some kind of martyr. And when the **** did he write and mail the letters? Again, how did he have all their addresses? First Mike with the phone numbers and then this ******* found time to not only kill himself right after the phone call, but to write some bull**** letters and mail them to people he hasn't seen or heard of in 30 years? Ok, I'm done...for now.