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It was rebooted. :lol

The entire plot of the first movie, everything with Nimoy and time-travel was a nod to the fans in order to start with a clean slate and do what they want without being held up by the old continuity.

Wow, I've never seen someone argue that Star Trek Nemesis is the franchise "doing fine", and then argue that something being popular with the masses equates to failure. :rotfl

"dumbed down", "idiots"... really, aren't you pleased with yourself? Are you sure you should be slumming it on a message board with us common-folk? :1-1:
 
noisetrigger said:
This sequel is more SW than ever and I am super glad that JJ Abrams is the new man behind the next SW movie. He will do it more justice than Lucas ever will.
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WTF? :cuckoo:

Lar'ja Thwei said:
I heard that The Dark Knight actually created life on Earth.
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:lol :goodpost:

So is this basically Star Wars skinned as Trek, or is it actually like Star Trek?
 
youbastards said:
"dumbed down", "idiots"... really, aren't you pleased with yourself? Are you sure you should be slumming it on a message board with us common-folk? :1-1:
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Very much so, that I'm not on board with this thing that's trying to appeal to hipster idiot kids with a "secret character" gimmick that claim Star Trek was stupid before JJ came along even though it managed over 600 hours of material, far more than Star Wars. If only I still had my Little Orphan Annie decoder ring...
 
a-dev said:
Cumberbatch is just too much removed from Montalban without providing an explanation as to why he is so. And so far no one who has seen the film has indicated that there is any, which is worrying
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This is a very different Khan, a Khan who has assumed the identity of John Harrison, because Admiral Marcus found the Botany Bay revived Khan and has forced him to help design mightier war weapons, The film mentions there has only been a record of Harrison for 10 years, so I assume that's how long he has had this identity. So this not the same man who has just come out of cryostasis like in Space Seed and this not the same man who has become consumed by vengeance as in Wrath of Khan.
 
Deckard said:
Very much so, that I'm not on board with this thing that's trying to appeal to hipster idiot kids with a "secret character" gimmick that claim Star Trek was stupid before JJ came along even though it managed over 600 hours of material, far more than Star Wars. If only I still had my Little Orphan Annie decoder ring...
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I'm a massive OT Star Wars fan and have been collecting the Hasbro line since 95 against sweet F all Star Trek stuff, but you can't argue with this. Quality Star Trek far outweighs quality Star Wars. Star Trek II is at least as good as ESB, objectively speaking.
 
Deckard said:
If only I still had my Little Orphan Annie decoder ring...
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That ring was made popular again by "A Christmas Story" in 1983, but you probably wouldn't like it because it's such a popular movie that a cable tv channel plays it around the clock on Christmas, you know, so the dumbed down hipster idiots have something to entertain themselves with and distract them from being dumb hipster idiots.
 
DinoLast said:
This is a very different Khan, a Khan who has assumed the identity of John Harrison, because Admiral Marcus found the Botany Bay revived Khan and has forced him to help design mightier war weapons, The film mentions there has only been a record of Harrison for 10 years, so I assume that's how long he has had this identity. So this not the same man who has just come out of cryostasis like in Space Seed and this not the same man who has become consumed by vengeance as in Wrath of Khan.
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Well I'll accept it as long as theres an in-movie acknowledgment of how different he is. I'm open to the changed universe as long as things aren't different just for the sake of it.

I'm with Deckard insofaras I refuse to dismiss old Trek as uncool in light of JJ's Trek.
 
a-dev said:
Well I'll accept it as long as theres an in-movie acknowledgment of how different he is. I'm open to the changed universe as long as things aren't different just for the sake of it.

I'm with Deckard insofaras I refuse to dismiss old Trek as uncool in light of JJ's Trek.
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I love the original series and the Next Generation. Wrath of Khan is one of the best Sci-fi films ever made.
 
youbastards said:
That ring was made popular again by "A Christmas Story" in 1983, but you probably wouldn't like it because it's such a popular movie that a cable tv channel plays it around the clock on Christmas, you know, so the dumbed down hipster idiots have something to entertain themselves with and distract them from being dumb hipster idiots.
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And you point out perfectly the problem here. The material was amazing from the get-go, it's only recently that the hipsters have become obsessed with it. Kinda like ya know, Star Trek. Or hell, The Walking Dead, Game of Thrones etc etc. That's what Hipsters do, they see all the praise a show gets from the real fans, latch onto it and bolster the ratings so they get catered to, but than they are gone and onto the next hyped crap thing next year/season.
 
Deckard said:
And you point out perfectly the problem here. The material was amazing from the get-go, it's only recently that the hipsters have become obsessed with it. Kinda like ya know, Star Trek. Or hell, The Walking Dead, Game of Thrones etc etc. That's what Hipsters do, they see all the praise a show gets from the real fans, latch onto it and bolster the ratings so they get catered to, but than they are gone and onto the next hyped crap thing next year/season.
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So the only people that should have the right to enjoy, let's use A Christmas Story as the example, are the people that saw it in the theater, prior to VHS, cable, DVD, Blu-ray, etc?

Can't that same argument be made for the lifecycle of everything that is popular at some point? There's just as much wrong with the entitled opinion of "I enjoyed something before it was popular, but since others now like it, it means less to me". The very definition of "holier-than-thou".

Some people just like to dislike things. :dunno
 
I think I'm anti hip or uncool...I can't figure it out. - I first saw a Christmas Story on VHS....I didn't like the Star Trek tv series, movies were ok (though I did like The Wrath of Khan)...but I'm really digging the Abrams movies. I watched TWD's first season (before it was "hip") but then it became too hip perhaps and I haven't seen season 2 or 3 nor have I watched the latest season of Game of Thrones. I'm not sure what that makes me....but I have a feeling I'm not cool. :(

But back on topic, I am looking forward to seeing Into Darkness! :D :yess:
 
Jen said:
I think I'm anti hip or uncool...I can't figure it out. - I first saw a Christmas Story on VHS....I didn't like the Star Trek tv series, movies were ok (though I did like The Wrath of Khan)...but I'm really digging the Abrams movies. I watched TWD's first season (before it was "hip") but then it became too hip perhaps and I haven't seen season 2 or 3 nor have I watched the latest season of Game of Thrones. I'm not sure what that makes me....but I have a feeling I'm not cool. :(

But back on topic, I am looking forward to seeing Into Darkness! :D :yess:
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I think it's super lame that some people think that shows or movies are only good until the mainstream starts to appreciate them. It's snobby and douchy. Then they decide to pick apart reboots or new directors, or actors that weren't associated with the original source material. Movies were made to be entertaining. As long as people are enjoying them, leave em alone. I thought that the Star Wars prequels were crap, but there's a whole generation of kids that enjoyed them and are "new" Star Wars fans because of it. Did they live up to the magic of the OT? Certainly not. Will J.J.'s new SW movie? Probably not. Do I like asking myself questions and then answering them? Hell yes. The point is, everyone needs to relax on this whole "purist" attitude of movie snobbery. This wasn't aimed at anyone on here...just MHO on a man-doll forum :)
 

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