JND Studios 1/6 scale Heath Ledger Joker figure

[GaryPool]

I think it's a JND choice thing, same with the faint blood they did on Oldboy, I've seen silicone with very strong colors and sharp lines painted on it without issue and Heise did a repaint on the JND 1/3 making the colors more prominent

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I think darkening the eyes there definitely brings the sculpt out more with the 1/3, it's not a bad sculpt, but the paint app definitely didn't help it, needs more contrast.

Tempted to do some research into the correct paints and apply thin layers to build up the eye area. For me the sculpt here is really good, but the eye area combined with the photo picking up all the details is throwing it.

I wonder when these will start shipping. Also wonder what JND's response will be, if any. Potentially a free sculpt to those who bought? It's not a good look to have a lot of people dog piling on the first release of a new type of 1/6.

In all honesty, and I've said this many times... Kojun is their weakest sculptor. JND even said in their recent video they sometimes choose between getting the actors details correct or highlighting character elements over actors likeness, this is the Squid Game video where the artist admitted going for likeness. I must admit, as much as I like this, both sculpts seem to amalgamate different looks into one. JND need to stop being 'artists' sometimes and just copy mostly from one reference and stick to that look.

 

[RJTVFX]

I think darkening the eyes there definitely brings the sculpt out more with the 1/3, it's not a bad sculpt, but the paint app definitely didn't help it, needs more contrast.

Tempted to do some research into the correct paints and apply thin layers to build up the eye area. For me the sculpt here is really good, but the eye area combined with the photo picking up all the details is throwing it.

I wonder when these will start shipping. Also wonder what JND's response will be, if any. Potentially a free sculpt to those who bought? It's not a good look to have a lot of people dog piling on the first release of a new type of 1/6.

In all honesty, and I've said this many times... Kojun is their weakest sculptor. JND even said in their recent video they sometimes choose between getting the actors details correct or highlighting character elements over actors likeness, this is the Squid Game video where the artist admitted going for likeness. I must admit, as much as I like this, both sculpts seem to amalgamate different looks into one. JND need to stop being 'artists' sometimes and just copy mostly from one reference and stick to that look.

Like people often say a lot of JND sculpts come across as stylized but if you're going for hyper real then you want it to look like it's pulled out of the movie/show, not an interpretation with artistic liberties (except with their anime characters).

As for painting I think paints need to be mixed with silicone as it only bonds with itself or something along those lines. I did think about getting the 1/3 Joker repainted at one point but I still can't see the likeness even with cleaner makeup. I've never seen anything look quite like the proto

 

[Wontons]

every day I wonder why I put a deposit down for this

 

[Lokki]

I can't see how this won't hurt JND - really across all of their product lines.

I'm so glad I slept on the Catwoman! Even if it turns out great, I'm not a gambling man, so at the price, it's just not worth the risk (IMHO).

 

[HyperDrive]

I honestly think they’ll be fine. Their local market will still eat it up. I mean, they’ve been in business this whole time.

 

[Gipetto0812]

I can't see how this won't hurt JND - really across all of their product lines.

I'm so glad I slept on the Catwoman! Even if it turns out great, I'm not a gambling man, so at the price, it's just not worth the risk (IMHO).

I mentioned something similar in another thread (I think) regarding buying JND products. While I'm more than happy with the JND products I do have (absolutely love them), it sucks to feel like you're gambling until time of release. I know I had a bad feeling waiting on Cavill Superman to arrive. Thankfully, that all went away once I opened him up but jeez my anxiety was through the roof until then.

 

[Deinonychus]

I’m ok with it. The shoes and trousers look decent. I’ll find a customizer to repaint it, fix the hair and tweak the sculpt, tidy up the accessories and jacket colour, and Bob’s your uncle I’ll have a decent representation of Ledger’s joker.

 

[Godfather1408]

JND hurt JND and that's down to their arrogance and ignorance in their craft.

Don't charge crazy money then expect people to be happy when the product doesn't look great.

 

[Ryley]

JND really do some strange and outlandish things, don't they?

In the comparison Diostar posted it looks to me like they've deliberately restyled the hair on the prototype to look as goofy and bouffy as possible, to make the final product look better by comparison. But the original prototype pictures didn't look like that. Did they think no one would notice?

Here's a picture of the actual prototype.

Compare that to the pictures of the "prototype" on the left below...






It seems that they've just teased the hair out to make their own prototype hair-rooting look like crap, and make the production piece look like an amazing improvement. But it's... er... not exactly subtle, is it? Why are they like this?

Yeah it's so obvious they deliberately made the proto look worse for the comparison photos, also, am I crazy or is he literally missing a hand on the proto

 

[Lokki]

I mentioned something similar in another thread (I think) regarding buying JND products. While I'm more than happy with the JND products I do have (absolutely love them), it sucks to feel like you're gambling until time of release. I know I had a bad feeling waiting on Cavill Superman to arrive. Thankfully, that all went away once I opened him up but jeez my anxiety was through the roof until then.

I'm wondering if JND releasing more products (per year) then before, is what is harming quality, or even their decision making (e.g rushing to get things out on time).

Right now, I own, WWJL, Mera, Catwoman, Harley Quinn, (and Arwen...) - and truth be told, I'm happy with all of them - for what they are.

But, I've seen how products like Indiana Jones, Superman C.R., John Wick, Aragorn (and Arwen), and 1/3 HL Joker - have all been huge misses (in my opinion) - and I'm not tone deaf to the comments people have levelled at the latest MP Catwoman - as well. Dude, that's a terrible hit rate, by anyone's standard.

While it's ALL subjective opinions - I'm more concerned that, with so much negativity, JND will hit the rocks long before they find their stride, and start fulfilling their potential.

 

[Lokki]

JND hurt JND and that's down to their arrogance and ignorance in their craft.

Don't charge crazy money then expect people to be happy when the product doesn't look great.

Are they arrogant though? I mean, most of these companies blow smoke up their own ***** - have you seen the "Next Level Showcase" from Prime1? I don't think JND is any better or worse than the others - none of them admit when they get it wrong.

I think the "self advertising" is just part of what these companies think they need to do to build hype around their products - it's just business.

I think we can have a debate on the pricing (spoiler alert: I agree with you!) - but regarding their craft, that's really an individual assessment - no one can speak for anyone else in terms of the quality of their craft - which is what is currently happening. Too many people shouting loudly that JND is crap - like it's a FACT - when it's just another opinion.

 

[BrooklynWolf X]

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Can’t say I’m too surprised. The proto already told the whole story. I was hoping they’d fix both sculpts, particularly the smiling sculpt…but Kojun convinced himself these 2 portraits were perfection.

Whoo boy…

Anyone that’s looking forward to this release…congrats. There’s clearly something I’m not seeing here. But if you’re happy with it, cool. That’s all that matters.

In the meantime, I’ll take the rest of my opinion and-

 

[chrisstbh]

I have to ask if anyone is even surprised here.

Their statues don’t even look good, why would their figures?

 

[Scout Trooper]

I’ll find a customizer to repaint it, fix the hair and tweak the sculpt, tidy up the accessories and jacket colour, and Bob’s your uncle I’ll have a decent representation of Ledger’s joker.

Is it worth pouring more money on top of an already expensive figure, just to walk away with a decent representation?

 

[intothevoid]

I’m ok with it. The shoes and trousers look decent. I’ll find a customizer to repaint it, fix the hair and tweak the sculpt, tidy up the accessories and jacket colour, and Bob’s your uncle I’ll have a decent representation of Ledger’s joker.

At that price you shouldn’t be needing to do any of that

 

[Scout Trooper]

I'm not tone deaf to the comments people have levelled at the latest MP Catwoman

One of their worst unfortunately

 

[Scout Trooper]

Justin is mad..

But can somebody explain the NRD situation to me? I assume the deposit you pay is the NRD amount, no?

Isn't that the point?

 

[Richard Gruber]

Smiling one reminds me of Fred Armisen

Fakkk, I can't unsee that now ...

 

[roan]

Justin is mad..

But can somebody explain the NRD situation to me? I assume the deposit you pay is the NRD amount, no?

Isn't that the point?

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Completely justified.

They were trying to keep the entire deposit not just the NRD, which makes absolutely no sense.

 

[Lokki]

According to JND's policy - and it is not clearly worded, to be fair - the email they send out for the final payment, is considered (by them) to be the point at which the product is ready to ship. They do state, in their terms, that the deposit (including NRD) are sacrificed IF you cancel after the product is "ready to ship" - SooooOOoo....technically, that email request for final payment IS the point "of no return".

As far as I know, and I have been ordering from JND since the A.H. Catwoman piece was released - that has always been their policy. I will add that recently, they did change the wording - (ironically to make things clearer...) because people were getting the final email, but were waiting for the production unboxing video, to make a final decision...when they didn't like the outcome, they were cancelling and expecting to get 50% of the deposit back....even after the final email request for payment. I think this is where Justin and others are getting upset.