Joker: Folie à Deux

[crows]

Who will Todd Phillips rape next?

 

[Nick D]

You could loosely say the message is -
Negativity brings attention, people are more interested in watching a life spiral out of control than attempting to help redirect it.

Our world idolizes and thrives off of despair.
The way the media covers and obsesses over extensive public murder trials, natural disasters, toxic celebrity relationships, scandals. Negativity sells. Think about it, how often do you get mad in your everyday life regarding matters bigger than traffic or your day at work? With the news they introduce something new for you to be upset about daily. Psychologically bringing problems you didn’t have with you into your everyday life.

 

[Sachiel]

Use your brain. They made a sequel to the joker as a slow courtoom drama, with musical numbers, it purposefully didnt give the audience the payoffs it wanted, and made him die a failure. There is nothing not risky about any of that. You can hate. Everyone hates it. But to say it wasnt risky is stupidity.

It's risky if they were hoping for another billion dollar hit.

 

[jye4ever]

Spoiler

Skimmed through it.
Well that was completely pointless.
Disastrously bad. You could have shanked him at the end of the first film if that was where you wanted to take the character. Why the hell is this film two hours and twenty minutes? Way to go Todd, you went from putting out a billion dollar controversial Oscar winning film to throwing your name on a blacklist of directors, among the likes of David Gordon Green, pitiful.

 

[jye4ever]

Ughhhhhhh…

Good morning blah blah ****

This movie hit me like an IPA called Juicey Locomotive!

The 1st one remains a masterpiece for me.

Joker 2.

I had to see it with my own eyes…I went in spoiler free but knew of the backlash obviously from hanging out in here.

I was hoping that I would interpret it differently than what was being described as a disastrous deconstruction of the character.

I didn’t interpret anything differently.

What a piece of ****!

Phillips, WTF dude like seriously.

That ending hnnnng.

It had potential to crescendo into super ruthless Joker but NOPE!!!

My boy Phoenix was my favorite Joker in style and swagger.

Now he’s in one of the worst sequels ever.

Quick someone call FEMA to help Todd Phillips career…oh wait sorry Todd they’re broke you’re SOL!

 

[Captain Clown]

Who will Todd Phillips rape next?

Spoiler

 

[jye4ever]

Phillips was literally trolling the audience with the line “Lets give the people what they want”

Jesus

 

[jye4ever]

You can actually take large chunks of this movie and re-edit a new extended cut of Joker 1 by integrating these Joker 2 real Arthur/Joker fantasy scenes into Joker 1 building him up to real bad ass Joker.

It could actually work.

 

[jye4ever]

God is my soul broken.

I need more coffee brb.

 

[Nick D]

I genuinely don’t see how a single Joker fan or Batman fan for the matter, could finish this film without the feeling of wiping spit from their face.

It’s 100% a deconstruction of the character.

Just the same as Michael wearing a burnt mask covered in mold, being suplexed by a kid in high school. Or a 60 year old lady dropping a fridge on him while he squirms around like he did in H20 ( that was him when they were making it).

Or even having him parade around in broad daylight not even wearing the mask, showing half your face through it with a beard when it is on, screaming die as you die, making Laurie and Loomis, the two people out of this entire shitfest you’re meant to care about, insufferable fine fellows. The amount of screaming in that film, I’ll never view it again.

Joker 2, Halloween Ends and RZ H2 are absolutely not “artistic direction from offbeat stylistic conscious decision making”.

I don’t understand why fans appear blind to this, all three of these films were made out of spite for the fans, for the material, for the character they themselves fabricated.
Deliberately withheld any Joker or Michael Myers scenes evocative of their character knowing you’re about to kill them off.

Rob Zombie -
Thought all the films before his were boring and garbage ( to his credit I agree with everything after 1981 HII), didn’t like how much influence the studio had over his first outting, nor the public’s or Carpenter’s response to it, reluctantly made the second film on his terms, not in good faith, but as a departing middle finger to the studios, fans, and franchise.

Green & Curtis -
Curtis has wanted him dead since HII.
Coming back for H20 because she was promised she could finish the job.
She signed on with Green under the stipulation that they’d kill him off.
He’s dead at the end of 2018 in the house fire, they just decided to milk the gullible fans who can’t say no, out of another two films because of it becoming the #1 grossing slasher of all time, at the time. Then Halloween Kills came around and people didn’t like it, so he changed the end of the trilogy completely out of spite sending Michael off in such a whimper that is too close for comfort in how Phillips dispatches Joker here.