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Re: New Judge Dredd movie

So with how everyone is *****ing about how Dredd's plot isn't deep enough for them, for the sequel they should just explain how Ma-Ma was Dredd's mother or make Dredd just a figment of everyone's imagination. That's what constitutes a deep, though-provoking story now-a-days, right?
 
The original Robocop was chalk full of satirical thematic elements (so many in fact that I bet it has more than Dredd) from opening to close (and also set against the backdrop of a violent, disturbing future) but it didn't present them at the expense of a compelling plot.

I love RoboCop. One of my favorite films. But it absolutely beats you over the head with its satire. There's nothing subtle or sublime there at all. :lol And that's fine. But I don't think that's what they were going for here... it's almost all well under the surface.

And I don't always need a compelling plot to drive a film. Sometimes simple works just fine.
 
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Well I feel like I've said enough negative. Obviously you guys really liked it but I was hoping for something more.

I loved Urban's "Eastwood meets Robocop" performance.

And the scene where the female Judge tells his partner to stand down and she just blows her away without the movie spelling out the visual of her psychic reading was classic! I also got a kick out of Dredd being out of all lesser ammo and having to resort to high explosive on the one guy. Sucked for him. :lol
 
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Saw DREDD for the first time the other nite...wife out of town, kids in bed...movie-time catch-up...much like Khev!

I liked the action in the movie...Urban was BADA$$ as everyone seems to agree. Would have liked a bit more character development in Dredd...but it was a fun movie. His sidekick was acted well...and could be developed more...

Would love to see a Dredd figure...but sadly, this property doesn't have the muscle to generate one...unless the overseas fans are hot on the property.

Nice!!! :duff

I'll be catching up on Cabin in the Woods next. :D
 
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The original Robocop was chalk full of satirical thematic elements (so many in fact that I bet it has more than Dredd) from opening to close (and also set against the backdrop of a violent, disturbing future) but it didn't present them at the expense of a compelling plot.

This movie was a shoot-em-up plain and simple. Robocop is hard to top with all it had going for it, but most comic book films are going to fall short of that anyway. The setup they chose wasn't the most original or elaborate, but it was a very efficient way to showcase the technology and they did it without cartoonish acting. It was a respectable appearance for this guy which seemed like a mission impossible since Sly & Schneider fumbled it.

Yeah I suppose if the original Die Hard had no real cleverness, no great villain (or henchmen), no great banter, no stakes due to a lack of anyone the hero cares about being involved, and instead was just John McClane using various voice activated ammunition to blow people up as he ascended floor by floor on his way to Hans Gruber for the entire movie then I suppose you're right, Dredd and Die Hard are like totally the same dude. ;)

Nah, they're not the exact same but they both take place entirely in one high rise location, outnumbered and fighting all the bad guys up to the main boss. Of course Die Hard is a better film, but you seemed to be at a loss for a precedent.

This movie was about restablishing the Dredd character. For all his limitations in the comics you're either going to love how he kicks *** or you're not. Hopefully if a sequel gets made we might get to see more of his world.
 
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Nice!!! :duff

I'll be catching up on Cabin in the Woods next. :D

You'll be complaining about that for not being what you wanted.


Dredd isn't mindless.. It's simple. It has ONE goal. ONE location. It doesn't meander, it stays on track for 90 minutes. And that's what makes it so incredibly refreshing.

Look at Dark Knight Rises. That movie has 10 sub plots going on at the same time, cutting back and forth, jumping all over the goddamn place, and thus lessing the overall point.
Now...that's not a knock on the film. It's fine. But there's something so great about watching a simple film. Not a stupid film. But a simple one.

Some of the greatest films ever, have very simple plots.
 
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Some of the greatest films ever also barely have any plot at all. And that's a-okay.

Films can be plot-driven, theme-driven, or character-driven. They can also be completely abstract without much narrative structure at all. Personally, I like all of those.
 
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I agree.

Look at Jaws. That film has a very straight forward plot. And it's perfect.
 
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Simple or straight forward /= mindless.

All Dredd did was systematically go through the building floor by floor using nothing more than the appropriate voice command on his pistol as he faced each new group of gun-toting villains.

There's that old adage "no plan survives contact with the enemy." Well, whoever said that apparently never saw DREDD. :lol Because everytime he faced some bad guys his plans/tactics worked. The end.

Granted, he wasn't expecting the doors to close on his way out. But from that point on it was seriously one of, if not THE most mindless shoot 'em ups I've ever seen. Stallone's "Cobra" looks like freaking "The Sting" compared to Dredd. :lol

Its almost like that one scene in True Lies where Harry is given the truth serum and then tells his captors exactly how he's going to kill them all...and then does it--for 90 minutes.

If you need a pallet cleanser after the Stallone Dredd and feel that an entire movie is necessary to establish a character's badassery rather than just being an actual movie then I guess it serves its purpose well enough. It is what it is and you guys prove that apparently there's an audience for it.
 
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I'll elaborate more. Get ready.





The movie isn't that hard to get. Really. Anyone with a brain can see what this movie was trying to say. It's not even something hidden below the surface. It's right there.

Judge Dredd is not the main character. It's not his story. It's Anderson's. Dredd is just the force behind her story. Judge Dredd feels one way about the law. Good and Bad. Black and White. Zero middle ground. You do the crime, you do the time. End of story. We see Anderson as a Judge who feels indifferent about these "laws" and the way the Judges dispatch them. When she sees the man who tried to kill her, she's got her gun pointed at his face, she feels sorry for him. She knows, and understands what he's dealing with, because a few years ago, she was just like him.

But...she also knows what he did and she is trying to do her job, and she has to do what she is told. Bam. Judges don't care about the consequences of their actions. They don't care who this man was. Justice is served. The end. And when Anderson finds out the man was a husband, probably loving one too, with a wife who clearly feared for his life, she feels the pain caused by the Judges. And that messes her up.

Until she finally meets someone who truly IS terrible. That's where she fully comes into her own. She realizes that the Judges have a clear purpose, and it's to deal with people like Kay, and Mama. People who are beyond saving. But that doesn't mean she sees things in black and white. She spares the Eye Guy because he had no choice, and he never wanted to hurt them. Just like her, forced into this bleak world without a choice.

She became a Judge at the end because Dredd understood this. He doesn't change completely. But he understands Anderson's view point. Although unfortunately for Mega City One, Judge Dredd still views things in black and white. But he picked a good, real Judge to do some great counter thinking.


Boom. Dredd.
 
It's basically a 2 hour visceral action flick that it about modern American politics. The description you just posted also spells that out. In the movie, you've got strong and obvious fascist elements and lawless and immoral anarchists set in a police state that is also filled with dependents in government housing. Both of the political extremes. Anderson represents the balance, and the middle-ground... what America's only rational choice is today.

And this isn't a brilliant revelation of the film by any means. The Dredd comics have been about the same thing for decades, albeit with more dark British humor.
 
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Great posts & comments guys. :duff

I've only seen this once, & I'm pining for the DVD release here (AUS) in March.

Interestingly, one of my best mates has a fairly similar opinion to Khev; a cheap & nasty platform shoot'em up. :lol
 
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I'll elaborate more. Get ready.





The movie isn't that hard to get. Really. Anyone with a brain can see what this movie was trying to say. It's not even something hidden below the surface. It's right there.

Judge Dredd is not the main character. It's not his story. It's Anderson's. Dredd is just the force behind her story. Judge Dredd feels one way about the law. Good and Bad. Black and White. Zero middle ground. You do the crime, you do the time. End of story. We see Anderson as a Judge who feels indifferent about these "laws" and the way the Judges dispatch them. When she sees the man who tried to kill her, she's got her gun pointed at his face, she feels sorry for him. She knows, and understands what he's dealing with, because a few years ago, she was just like him.

But...she also knows what he did and she is trying to do her job, and she has to do what she is told. Bam. Judges don't care about the consequences of their actions. They don't care who this man was. Justice is served. The end. And when Anderson finds out the man was a husband, probably loving one too, with a wife who clearly feared for his life, she feels the pain caused by the Judges. And that messes her up.

Until she finally meets someone who truly IS terrible. That's where she fully comes into her own. She realizes that the Judges have a clear purpose, and it's to deal with people like Kay, and Mama. People who are beyond saving. But that doesn't mean she sees things in black and white. She spares the Eye Guy because he had no choice, and he never wanted to hurt them. Just like her, forced into this bleak world without a choice.

She became a Judge at the end because Dredd understood this. He doesn't change completely. But he understands Anderson's view point. Although unfortunately for Mega City One, Judge Dredd still views things in black and white. But he picked a good, real Judge to do some great counter thinking.


Boom. Dredd.

This is one of those posts that hopefully you'll be able to look back on one day and feel a little embarrassed about. Anderson is not the main character of DREDD. Dredd is the main character of DREDD. Just throwing that out there since there seems to be a little confusion on your part. Anderson is the relatable character. Doesn't make the movie about her (just like Conan the Barbarian isn't about Subodai or the Chinese wizard simply because they "emote" in the place of the hero.) Dredd's partner teaches him the value of empathy and solving crimes through non-violent means...in the context of a completely mindless action flick. :lol

I'm guessing you walked out of the theater for the first time with a new sense of hope. Because if a Judge, a DREDD, can learn the value of human empathy, maybe we can too.... duh nuh nuh, nuh nuh nuh...
 
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I finally got to see The Raid this weekend. It was a pretty good movie but if I had to compare it to Dredd, Dredd is WAY more enjoyable.
 
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