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[The3rdone]

i think it’s less ‘disrespect’ and more just the RDR1 design not being super cool looking. imo, at least

You know it’s not disrespect because of how excited everyone is for the RDR1 Marston outfit/headsculpt. I’m getting 2 to display both options.

I think the reason I like Epilogue Dutch as a figure more is because it is definitely a bit cooler looking but it’s also Dutch at one of his most dramatic moments. In a way, it’s his point of redemption and the last go round for who he was. Seven years of thinking about the final days of the Van Der Linde gang, betraying Arthur, leaving John for dead, letting Micah dismantle everything he had built- a single shot from Dutch’s revolver is as much of an apology as anyone would ever get out of a man so prideful. I look at that moment as the last act of the man we thought Dutch was, one moment before his fall into the abyss. It’s literally my favorite moment with the character.

“What are you doing up here Dutch?”

“Same as you- I suppose…”

Just beautiful.

 

[SwedishHeat]

You know it’s not disrespect because of how excited everyone is for the RDR1 Marston outfit/headsculpt. I’m getting 2 to display both options.

I think the reason I like Epilogue Dutch as a figure more is because it is definitely a bit cooler looking but it’s also Dutch at one of his most dramatic moments. In a way, it’s his point of redemption and the last go round for who he was. Seven years of thinking about the final days of the Van Der Linde gang, betraying Arthur, leaving John for dead, letting Micah dismantle everything he had built- a single shot from Dutch’s revolver is as much of an apology as anyone would ever get out of a man so prideful. I look at that moment as the last act of the man we thought Dutch was, one moment before his fall into the abyss. It’s literally my favorite moment with the character.

“What are you doing up here Dutch?”

“Same as you- I suppose…”

Just beautiful.

I still view it as lack of appreciation/respect of the first game.

We're already getting RDR2 versions of the characters, we're already getting the RDR2 outfits with Arthur, John, and Dutch. So, give the fans of the first game something. Give them the antagonist of the first game, give them RDR1 Dutch and John. You've got the Van Der Linde Gang at their beginning, and at their end. Including a second RDR2 outfit at the expense of the RDR1 outfit is disrespectful. Dutch is already coming with the RDR2 outfit as the standard. It just makes sense to include the RDR1 outfit, just like John.

 

[The3rdone]

I still view it as lack of appreciation/respect of the first game.

We're already getting RDR2 versions of the characters, we're already getting the RDR2 outfits with Arthur, John, and Dutch. So, give the fans of the first game something. Give them the antagonist of the first game, give them RDR1 Dutch and John. You've got the Van Der Linde Gang at their beginning, and at their end. Including a second RDR2 outfit at the expense of the RDR1 outfit is disrespectful. Dutch is already coming with the RDR2 outfit as the standard. It just makes sense to include the RDR1 outfit, just like John.

That’s a good point about representing 1899/1911 in the single releases. I think doing the epilogue look as a seperate accessory pack makes the most sense.

I love both games so I’m gonna be happy with whatever happens.

 

[kirklazarus]

I'd be curious if there was some way to poll fan demographics for the figures. My general impression of the Red Dead franchise is it attracts a different mindset than typical flashy games. Results in turn could give stronger confidence in doing an add-on accessory pack.

 

[R_R_X]

I'd be curious if there was some way to poll fan demographics for the figures. My general impression of the Red Dead franchise is it attracts a different mindset than typical flashy games. Results in turn could give stronger confidence in doing an add-on accessory pack.

I would say it has more to do with the characters themselves, Arthur Morgan is celebrated as one of the best video game protagonists of all time and for a ton of people he IS the best, if you tried to sell a random cowboy figure that looked similar and with the same ammount of accessories it would never sell as good.

 

[Luisenigma1]

I would say it has more to do with the characters themselves, Arthur Morgan is celebrated as one of the best video game protagonists of all time and for a ton of people he IS the best, if you tried to sell a random cowboy figure that looked similar and with the same ammount of accessories it would never sell as good.

Sad to know John has been sideline in his own game franchise as of course he started it all with his story (if you don't count Red Harlow of course) but at the same time I don't disagree with your statement Arthur became the best character in the series after the second game and of course he will get a lot of love. But I hope John gets just as much since he was the one who paved the way for this series to grow, I do think Dutch in his 1899/1911 looks would be great. The fact we got the sculpts for John based on his two versions is appreciated, I do hope for an accessories pack like the duster, poncho, winter coat.

 

[SwedishHeat]

Sad to know John has been sideline in his own game franchise as of course he started it all with his story (if you don't count Red Harlow of course) but at the same time I don't disagree with your statement Arthur became the best character in the series after the second game and of course he will get a lot of love. But I hope John gets just as much since he was the one who paved the way for this series to grow, I do think Dutch in his 1899/1911 looks would be great. The fact we got the sculpts for John based on his two versions is appreciated, I do hope for an accessories pack like the duster, poncho, winter coat.

There are dozens of RDR1 fans!! Dozens of us, I tell you!

 

[Luisenigma1]

There are dozens of RDR1 fans!! Dozens of us, I tell you!

I love the game too. I'm happy we finally are getting John but I also love RDR2 for adding to the legacy of the first game. And of course Arthur being just as good of a character. I hope we do see more outfit options for John I wonder how quick will he actually sell out once he goes up for preorder.

 

[Remembermyname]

There are dozens of RDR1 fans!! Dozens of us, I tell you!

Legions my friend.

 

[Jman101010]

I'm a fan of RDR1 too, I just think Dutch's look is the worst in the game, character model and all. He looks 1000x better in RDR2. I was even rooting for Lim to do RDR1 John too! It's not necessarily that people don't like or are disrespecting RDR1, it also simply has to do with preference.

 

[Remembermyname]

I'm a fan of RDR1 too, I just think Dutch's look is the worst in the game, character model and all. He looks 1000x better in RDR2. I was even rooting for Lim to do RDR1 John too! It's not necessarily that people don't like or are disrespecting RDR1, it also simply has to do with preference.

One man's sweet is anothers poison. Lim Toys listen to the many comments and shall make a balanced decision.

 

[MasterRazzerr76]

Aside from the main outfit in the second game, if you could choose between having the ability to make him look like he does in the first game with the orange shirt and shorter hair or the look from the epilogue in the second game with the beard, fur coat and gloves, what would you guys pick?
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First image probably the most wanted look out of all three

 

[Raleig.h]

I think his main look in RDR2 makes the most sense as it’s the outfit we get to experience the Dutches descent into evil firsthand to the man he truly becomes in RDR1, it also shows his character off the beat imo with the flashy accessories and clean color combo, compared to his original look which is seriously boring (but still appreciated).

His epilogue look is badass but I think is sorta irrelevant to have as his main look if you want to display with both JM and AM, could totally work as an accessory set though.

I’m not sure the production side of things but has Lim ever thought about doing outfit / sculpt sets to sell separately in smaller batches that people can use with the existing characters that they already have? If it’s financially possible I think it could be a hit and everyone would be happy.

 

[Luisenigma1]

I’m not sure the production side of things but has Lim ever thought about doing outfit / sculpt sets to sell separately in smaller batches that people can use with the existing characters that they already have? If it’s financially possible I think it could be a hit and everyone would be happy.

Lim already sold a mid-beard sculpt for AM and soon we will be getting a new sickly sculpt with the stalker hat for AM. I think they will definitely be making outfit and accessories packs to pair with both AM and JM but that will also depend on the demand of us who want it.

 

[console-master]

is limtoys solid snake figure canceled?

 

[RandomHero]

is limtoys solid snake figure canceled?

No

 

[Raleig.h]

Lim already sold a mid-beard sculpt for AM and soon we will be getting a new sickly sculpt with the stalker hat for AM. I think they will definitely be making outfit and accessories packs to pair with both AM and JM but that will also depend on the demand of us who want it.

Yeah I’ve got the mid beard coming but I meant more than just sculpts. Entire outfit sets like what Topo does, doesn’t need to include accessories or a body, just the clothes.

I’d also love a pack of just something like 30 bullets to fill out the bandoliers lol

 

[DiostaR]

The fact there seems to be more interest in the epilogue look which only showed up for a hot minute instead of his look in the first game just proves what I've been saying all along, the first game is severely underrated and doesn't get the same love the second game does.

Anyway I've seen some people ask for the Black fur coat and scarf look from the start of the game too, so between that and the epilogue look with the beard which one would you pick?

His look from the start 100%.

 

[DiostaR]

Aside from the main outfit in the second game, if you could choose between having the ability to make him look like he does in the first game with the orange shirt and shorter hair or the look from the epilogue in the second game with the beard, fur coat and gloves, what would you guys pick?
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His look from the first game if i had to choose.

 

[Remembermyname]

Lim Toys you have made the day of many. I am probably the only soul that has not played the games, my interest is purely the genre and you have delivered. I like to try to keep things simple if that is possible with 1.6 scale, therefore from my stance, surprise me. In the meantime the boys are ready for what is coming.