Live Free Or Die Hard out today! Any Freaks see it yet?

[Darth Loki]

And his daughter, , we liked her a lot.

Yes, yes we did

 

[Darth Caedus]

Yes, yes we did

 

[EVILFACE]

Die Hard 4 flat out rocked, even in PG13!!!

Blew away the overdone Spidey 3 and bloated Pirates 3.

 

[DouglasMcc]

Went and saw the LFoDH for the second time yesterday - it's been forever since I have paid to see a movie twice at the theater - last movie I did this for was Return of the King.

I would definitely rate this one above 2 and 3 now - so many classic action movie moments. The fight with Mai is now my favorite Die Hard moment of all time. I'm not sure if it's the fact that I am older myself now - compared to seeing the originals as a kid - but I was able to connect even better to the character of McClane as an older and wiser ... but still deadly ... hero. I also love the little exchange with Mac Kid as they drove to the utilities building:

MacKid calls McClane a hero, but he denounces the compliment. Tells him that all being a hero gets you is a slap on the back ... then divorce, losing your children, etc.

MK- "But you've saved my life like 10 times already today. Why are you even doing this?"
JM- "I don't wanna be doing this. If there was anyone else, I would let them do it. But there isn't. I'm the only one who can do this."
MK- "And that's what makes you that guy."

That one little exchange - which I kind of glossed-over on my first viewing - sums up the character perfectly. The everyman who does it, not for the glory, but out of a sense of duty. Kinda brought a tear to my eye - in a manly way of course

As for the controversy, the PG-13 didn't hurt the film, but it was obviously cut in numerous spots. The most obvious one is the MacBoy rant after the utilities explosion. If you look carefully, his lips don't match his words from a distance, and the close-ups were obviously filmed later. There were also a couple of obvious quick cuts due to violence - most notable, "Hamster boy's" demise in the cooling room. I don't know how some of the 20th Century fox talking heads can claim this was always intended as a PG-13. I hope we get an unrated DVD ... but after my second viewing, I could live with just the PG-13 version. It's that good.

 

[LOTRFan]

It's that good.

Yes, yes it is! I just got back from seeing this one, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. I wasn't expecting much more than the normal explosions and one-liners, but it delivered - one of the best films this summer no doubt!

And Kevin Smith i.e. the Warlock is great. We apparently know which PF is his favorite.

 

[Darklord Dave]

I went into this with no expectations at all. Loved the first DH, but not a big fan of the others. But this one is probably just 2nd to the 1st.

I didn't miss the language at all, but what made McClane special is that he is the f-in energizer bunny. In fact early in the film someone calls him a Timex watch in a digital age, and I thought they were going to use the "it takes a licking and keeps on ticking" phrase from the Timex commercials. He's a real person, and he bleeds. The barefoot/broken glass scene from the first movie sticks with me. With a PG-13 rating we really can't get a sense of how much damage John is taking. He does seem a little unreal despite all the blood on his face.

 

[darthviper107]

Just got back and I though it was great. I haven't seen the first three so I don't have those to compare to. But this was a really entertaining movie.

 

[DouglasMcc]

Just got back and I though it was great. I haven't seen the first three so I don't have those to compare to. But this was a really entertaining movie.

:eek : Were you an Amish child who finally found the fortitude to shed your techno fear and venture into the cinema for the first time? Have you never had basic cable? I just don't see how you could never have seen either of the first 3 ... hell, TBS and TNT show at least one of those movies every month I think




Get thee to retail, my friend, and pick up the new re-release of the first 3 (DVD boxset). It's the best 30 bucks you will ever spend.

 

[pjam]

For anyone who wanted to know how the last one did overseas...

DIE HARD: WITH A VENGENCE

Domestic: $100,012,499
Foreign: $261,200,000

 

[The Monster]

YES, I ALSO WENT TO SEE THE FILM TODAY! THE BEST OUT OF ALL THE DIE HARDS SO FAR! THE PG-13 MEANS NOTHING!!!!!! GO SEE IT! BRUCE, BRING ON DIE HARD 5!

 

[The Monster]

:eek : Were you an Amish child who finally found the fortitude to shed your techno fear and venture into the cinema for the first time? Have you never had basic cable? I just don't see how you could never have seen either of the first 3 ... hell, TBS and TNT show at least one of those movies every month I think




Get thee to retail, my friend, and pick up the new re-release of the first 3 (DVD boxset). It's the best 30 bucks you will ever spend.

DouglasMcc IS RIGHT! GO BUY THE BOXSET! YOU WILL NOT BE SORRY!!!!!!

 

[DouglasMcc]

YES, I ALSO WENT TO SEE THE FILM TODAY! THE BEST OUT OF ALL THE DIE HARDS SO FAR! THE PG-13 MEANS NOTHING!!!!!! GO SEE IT! BRUCE, BRING ON DIE HARD 5!

While I agree the movie was great, I just can't rate it above the original. Die Hard was perfect - the perfect setup, the perfect villian, the perfect ending. Live Free or Die Hard did have a slightly lesser setup - I prefer the confined setting of the first 2 - and the weakest villain of all 4 movies. It's still a great movie and the second best Die Hard in my book. However, Alan Rickman and the Nakatomi Building push the original over the top

 

[The ill Jedi]

Seeing this today reminded me of why I love John McClane's character and Bruce Willis as an actor so much, they both kick ass. As did this movie! No R-Rating? No problem!! Just as good as any R rated flick if not better! Justin Long was cool too and the girl that plays Lucy McClane is beautiful and tough too!

I love all the Die Hard movies, I own the Box Set too and I enjoyed this one as much as when I saw the first Die Hard. Lots of fun and great one liners from John. I gotta see it again...after I see Transformers a few times though!

 

[Darklord Dave]

The first Die Hard is a classic in many ways, and changed things in the movie business, both in front and behind the camera. Seeing it now it seems like it's filled with cliches, but they weren't cliches until Die Hard came around.

And how cool is Professor Snape as the bad guy?

 

[DouglasMcc]

The first Die Hard is a classic in many ways, and changed things in the movie business, both in front and behind the camera. Seeing it now it seems like it's filled with cliches, but they weren't cliches until Die Hard came around.

And how cool is Professor Snape as the bad guy?

No,no,no ... you got it backwards. How cool is it to see Hans Gruber as Professor Snape --->

 

[hairlesswookiee]

i just cant believe how awesome this movie is. i just got back from seeing it again and its just as good the first time seeing it. as already mentioned i can't wait for the eventual release of the unrated cut. and imagine the making of features. i know the box set just came out but im gonna wait for this one so i can get all four of them together.

 

[Darth Caedus]

No,no,no ... you got it backwards. How cool is it to see Hans Gruber as Professor Snape --->

And I would have to agree that darthviper107 must have been living in a hole during his whole life to have never seen the greatest action movie, naw movie of all time, DIE HARD !!!!! You must see it, go rent it, go download it, go TiVO it, go buy it, go borrow it, go steal it, just SOMEHOW go see this movie.

 

[gdb]

The orginal Die Hard is pretty much the Citizen Kane of action/adventure films. And I'm not just saying that because it's so old that by today's audiences' standards it's practically in black and white.

It took a cop movie (in fact the original is a sequel to a Frank Sinatra movie -- this is the fifth John McClane film) and blended it with a disaster movie. It's the movie that imported jump cutting from the art houses of Europe. It gave us crawling through air vents with nothing but a Zippo and a cool dry wit. It gave us the perfect ticking clock. It gave us one of the coolest bad guys ever. And it gave us Bruce Willis.

 

[darthviper107]

And I would have to agree that darthviper107 must have been living in a hole during his whole life to have never seen the greatest action movie, naw movie of all time, DIE HARD !!!!! You must see it, go rent it, go download it, go TiVO it, go buy it, go borrow it, go steal it, just SOMEHOW go see this movie.

Well, they came out when I was just a little kid and I wasn't allowed to see movies like that. I am trying to catch up though. I don't think I've seen them around on the TV guide though. I might have seen the end of one of them but I can't remember.

 

[Zoomaround]

I also gotta give this movie a thumbs up. I truly enjoyed this movie -- lots of action and McClane was true to his character.

Does anyone know the box office numbers on the first film? As I recall, it wasn't a box office hit....not until it was released on video.