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NASA - 20 billion $/year
Militairy/war - 650-700 billion $/year

And you want NASA to save the money? I've already summed up why this mission isn't useless at all on one of the previous pages.

You posted a bunch of ____ that's irrelevant to a troubled economy where we're borrowing $2bill to fund a robot to scour a dead planet.

That's not the things you were talking about.

And really, I'd rather someone try to fix education then just throw money at it.

It certainly is but you keep posting ignorance. Yet another example is your stance on education. It's not education that needs fixing, it's the students.
 
It certainly is but you keep posting ignorance. Yet another example is your stance on education. It's not education that needs fixing, it's the students.

Reread the posts, you keep on trying to counter points we weren't even talking about.

Improving education would be great for the economy. I agree on that. But it wasn't what we were talking about.

And I hate to get (more) off topic but I feel colleges these days don't teach students the skills they need to get a job and things need to be changed. So getting more people into college or adding more financial support won't help if they aren't actually learning what they need to.
 
Reread the posts, you keep on trying to counter points we weren't even talking about.

Improving education would be great for the economy. I agree on that. But it wasn't what we were talking about.

And I hate to get (more) off topic but I feel colleges these days don't teach students the skills they need to get a job and things need to be changed. So getting more people into college or adding more financial support won't help if they aren't actually learning what they need to.

They need to get the professors back into the classrooms instead of teaching with tapes or letting students teach their classes.
 
And I hate to get (more) off topic but I feel colleges these days don't teach students the skills they need to get a job and things need to be changed. So getting more people into college or adding more financial support won't help if they aren't actually learning what they need to.

They need to get the professors back into the classrooms instead of teaching with tapes or letting students teach their classes.

I run into kids all the time that are fresh outta college that are dumber than a box of rocks & clueless as all hell
 
And I hate to get (more) off topic but I feel colleges these days don't teach students the skills they need to get a job and things need to be changed. So getting more people into college or adding more financial support won't help if they aren't actually learning what they need to.

The concept of learning has been dumbed down to cater to a student body that puts social activities in front of education. Social passing, a direct result of parental bullying, has put students into college who lack the necessary skills and desire to retain what's being taught. And rather than put that blame where it's owed, it gets flung on the teachers/professors.
 
Yeah, just having a degree no longer means anything, you have to back it up. And these days colleges just don't prepare people for that. Doesn't help that half your classes have nothing to do with the job you're trying to get.
 
The concept of learning has been dumbed down to cater to a student body that puts social activities in front of education. Social passing, a direct result of parental bullying, has put students into college who lack the necessary skills and desire to retain what's being taught. And rather than put that blame where it's owed, it gets flung on the teachers/professors.

It's a mix of both--students aren't entirely to blame, if they don't know the job situation and what the job is really like then the teachers need to give them that information. But students also need to spend more time figuring out what they want to do, there's really no reason for someone to go to college without knowing what they're going to major in, or that they would end up changing majors when they find out they don't like the one they chose.
 
It's a mix of both--students aren't entirely to blame, if they don't know the job situation and what the job is really like then the teachers need to give them that information. But students also need to spend more time figuring out what they want to do, there's really no reason for someone to go to college without knowing what they're going to major in, or that they would end up changing majors when they find out they don't like the one they chose.

I don't see how any of that is the fault of the teachers/professors though. If anything, it's more proving of an ADD generation who feels they're owed.
 
You posted a bunch of ____ that's irrelevant to a troubled economy where we're borrowing $2bill to fund a robot to scour a dead planet.

They begin planning and working on these missions years before, in this case, a few years before the crisis even hit, so would you want them to stop working on a project where billions are already spend on, basically having spent the money for nothing, or continue the project, and profiting from it? Simply cancelling the project won't make the 2 billion magically reappear.
 
How many hours of a person's first 22 years are spent in a class room?

My money is on school being the problem, long before it's anything else.

You're naively assuming the students' time in the class is spent participating.

They begin planning and working on these missions years before, in this case, a few years before the crisis even hit, so would you want them to stop working on a project where billions are already spend on, basically having spent the money for nothing, or continue the project, and profiting from it? Simply cancelling the project won't make the 2 billion magically reappear.

It gets sidelined until we're no longer borrowing money to fund it. If you're gambling at a casino, does your bank just keep handing you money when your account reaches "$0.00" because you "might" win something at some point in the future?
 
I don't see how any of that is the fault of the teachers/professors though. If anything, it's more proving of an ADD generation who feels they're owed.

Take for instance when I went to college for 3D animation---I can tell you there was no one else learning there that could possibly get a job once they graduated, and they had no idea how bad they were. In this case it's both the student's fault for not spending the time and figuring out what the industry was like and learning outside of class, but our professor really should have explained things more about how much people should be putting into working. He should have at least alerted people long before they graduated that their skills were way behind. And that's the case in most schools that teach 3D, which is sad.
 
You're naively assuming there is anything worth participating in.

Well, if your goal is to become a pothead working a minimum wage job and getting treated like ____ from customers and bosses, I'd say you're definitely on to something.

Take for instance when I went to college for 3D animation---I can tell you there was no one else learning there that could possibly get a job once they graduated, and they had no idea how bad they were. In this case it's both the student's fault for not spending the time and figuring out what the industry was like and learning outside of class, but our professor really should have explained things more about how much people should be putting into working. He should have at least alerted people long before they graduated that their skills were way behind. And that's the case in most schools that teach 3D, which is sad.

No offense, but that's the case with anything regarding technology though. When I finished graphic design I was already expecting the software I'd been taught to use would be outdated. And it was, but the principles can still be applied to newer technology. It's just a matter of learning it, which is a never-ending process.
 
Yeah, thats my goal. Actually, I'd like to grow up and become a guy who can see that entitlement is the problem with the culture, but still thinks free energy is a noble endeavor.
 
Yeah, thats my goal. Actually, I'd like to grow up and become a guy who can see that entitlement is the problem with the culture, but still thinks free energy is a noble endeavor.

That wasn't meant as a jab, btw. I was looking at kid's I've known and what they've become. Namely my nephew. :lol
 
No offense, but that's the case with anything regarding technology though. When I finished graphic design I was already expecting the software I'd been taught to use would be outdated. And it was, but the principles can still be applied to newer technology. It's just a matter of learning it, which is a never-ending process.

There's a few more general majors, like Business that probably don't have the issue, but you don't have to go far to find the ones that are like this.
 
My goal is to be a teacher. Whether I'll regret that decision one day is another story all together.
 
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