Marvel's Antman and the Wasp: Quantumania

[Bjjer]

Sounds like Victor would be better served staying away from all MCU movies as he doesnt enjoy them. I try very hard not to do things I dont enjoy. Time is too limited.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

This’ll be on Disney+ soon enough

 

[ZE_501]

Sounds like Victor would be better served staying away from all MCU movies as he doesnt enjoy them. I try very hard not to do things I dont enjoy. Time is too limited.

Speaking of, revisited Infinity War today. What a great flick, for the most part!

 

[darth dennis]

Speaking of, revisited Infinity War today. What a great flick, for the most part!

As I've stated, it's the Empire Strikes Back of the MCU. Darn near perfect, IMO!

 

[KitbashOfficer]

Sounds like Victor would be better served staying away from all MCU movies as he doesnt enjoy them. I try very hard not to do things I dont enjoy. Time is too limited.

Haha, right! He acts like he's being tortured. If you want comics-accurate material, the MCU is not the place. They set the C4 to that possibility long ago.

 

[ZE_501]

As I've stated, it's the Empire Strikes Back of the MCU. Darn near perfect, IMO!

That battle in Wakanda is my main issue with it, tactically unsound and primitive, but whatever. Still a great flick and what an ending!

 

[Victοr]

Sounds like Victor would be better served staying away from all MCU movies as he doesnt enjoy them. I try very hard not to do things I dont enjoy. Time is too limited.

Haha, right! He acts like he's being tortured. If you want comics-accurate material, the MCU is not the place. They set the C4 to that possibility long ago.

Real footage of me every single time I hear news about the MCU:

Kidding aside, I haven't properly watched a single one since IW/EG, and those two I watched at home. I just keep up with the news for the dollies, since that's my main collection. I've wanted to build these displays for decades, so when they screw things up my whole plans goes off the rails...

 

[KitbashOfficer]

Real footage of me every single time I hear news about the MCU:

Kidding aside, I haven't properly watched a single one since IW/EG, and those two I watched at home. I just keep up with the news for the dollies, since that's my main collection. I've wanted to build these displays for decades, so when they screw things up my whole plans goes off the rails...

- Make your own man, I'm telling you. You'll be more satisfied and less angry. Takes a little work but it is empowering.

 

[ZE_501]

- Make your own man, I'm telling you. You'll be [...] less angry.

LOL @ "less angry"

 

[Victοr]

- Make your own man, I'm telling you. You'll be more satisfied and less angry. Takes a little work but it is empowering.

My custom skills stop at the 1/18th scale... And I can't spend 2K to commission a headsculpt every time.

LOL @ "less angry"

Sad how even Whedon's Hulk is vastly superior to what we have now...

 

[KitbashOfficer]

LOL @ "less angry"

Lol, I don't know how old he is but that dude has got to be greyer than James Gunn and Magneto, combined!

 

[ZE_501]

Sad how even Whedon's Hulk is vastly superior to what we have now...

I was reminded of that watching Infinity War early today. Sheeesh.

 

[KitbashOfficer]

My custom skills stop at the 1/18th scale... And I can't spend 2K to commission a headsculpt every time.

Sad how even Whedon's Hulk is vastly superior to what we have now...

Nah bro, it's easy. Just have to obtain the parts. From there it just takes perhaps some modification which could include painting or sewing.

 

[MeatHookGekko]

That battle in Wakanda is my main issue with it, tactically unsound and primitive, but whatever. Still a great flick and what an ending!

Part of the failures for Phase 4 is that Marvel and Feige would never make Iron Man 1 in current times. It's just a very good movie. However it showed the death of US servicemen, criticized the military industrial complex and large scale defense contractors, had a *** scene (somewhat), Stark when on an unchecked "revenge tour" post Yinsen, and there were antagonists that lined up in the vein of traditional IRL "terrorism"

By End Game, that all had to go. It had to be fantasy enemies and no bullets. The first Captain America, Steve Rogers had a pistol. He actually shot a bad guy and used a firearm in Avengers during the carrier battle. But that wouldn't happen today.

I suspect that Wakandan battle had similar restrictions. Don't make it "too real" for people. Hence Ross and the world's formal military are nowhere to be seen during these major battles.

There was a time when Will Smith was the hottest thing in Hollywood ( just right after Men In Black 1 and ID4 ) And there were lots of articles about the failures of Wild Wild West, effectively an autopsy of why it failed. Kevin Smith covered a little bit of it in the first An Evening With Kevin Smith series. You go down a check list and then you stop having a coherent story. You need to include backdoor pilot characters, inclusion, diversity, avoid offending China, set up the next installment/sequel, have X number of battle set pieces, when that's all over, how can you make a movie like that? You have to add in 20 must have things to further the "universe" and the "activism" and what's left?

Iron Man 1 wasn't trying to build an entire universe. It was just trying to tell a good story. It didn't try to avoid stepping on anyone's toes. Tony Stark wasn't a particularly good person and that was OK. It wasn't trying to make sure it covered 15 different bases to make it more inclusive.

I recognize why these changes were made. To force feed a better "product" And not to just tell a good story.

I'd argue that the forced inclusivity within Wakanda Forever, Shang Chi and Eternals actually does more to promote more latent racism with the subtext of these titles than actually appeal to a world wide audience.

Raw product alone is great if you are a drug dealer. But if you are trying to make a film that speaks to the actual human condition, give spectacle and provokes complex self reflection, it's just not enough.

If The Big Mouse just wants to keep churning out empty calories off an assembly line, then actually commit to that. Make something like Spartacus Blood And Sand. Make 300. Make Troy. But don't try to pretend to give a paper thin actor like Mark Ruffalo some kind of ill fitting pathos. It's pretending product is storytelling. If you don't care about storytelling, then just don't pretend like you actually do. And make films that line up with that reality.

 

[Victοr]

Lol, I don't know how old he is but that dude has got to be greyer than James Gunn and Magneto, combined!

Here's a pic of literally me:

Spoiler

I was reminded of that watching Infinity War early today. Sheeesh.

Fr fr, current Hulk deadass ain't it cuz on g no cap.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

But yeah, I'm not even that much of a Hulk fan and I'm insulted. I keep hoping for an Ultimate-esque Variant, but I don't think we'll ever get it...

Teller as the Maker, Norton as Ult!Hulk, Mara as Sue!Kang, man, imagine how awesome that'd be. But nooooo, we've gotta do Secret Wars now and devote it to Klawng. No Illuminati build-up, no Strange/Doom team-up, no Namor/T'Challa putting aside their differences to travel Battleword, no battle of AU Reeds; what's even the ******* point?

Anyway, if Norton does hurt money-wise and comes back as a Grey Hulk, I'd definitely but such a figure. I'd love to build an Ultimate-esque display. Evans and RDJ will surely come back so I'll have one more chance with them. We'll see about the rest.

Nah bro, it's easy. Just have to obtain the parts. From there it just takes perhaps some modification which could include painting or sewing.

I can do some basic part-swapping, but then the whole "high end" appeal starts being lost. If I pop a Bale head on top of a Kang body and pretend it's him unmasked, no problem. If I go around trying to paint these figures, with my skills, I've crossed over to another side and I don't want to go down that road. For Kang, I'm waiting to see how they'll do the mask. For Namor, I'm of two minds. If they give him a bodysuit, I was thinking of grabbing a Phicen body, and then popping on a Keanu head. But with Tron 3 happening, I may have a shot at a Leto HS, who'd have been a great 90s/00s-style Namor. I'll just have to play the waiting game and not get tempted into buying the WF look, if it happens. I'm rooting for either of these looks:

Get the suit, put it on a Phicen body, grab a trident loose from one of the Aquaman figures, pray Tron 3 happens, figures come out, and Leto gets an unmasked, neckless head, and hey presto! That's one solution. But dunno, perhaps they'll make the guy work out and shave next time, so who knows, maybe I'll like the look as is. I'll just have to resist my inner Namor fan telling me to consooooooooom all the product and pass on WF dolly; if it happens that is.

 

[KitbashOfficer]

I can do some basic part-swapping, but then the whole "high end" appeal starts being lost. If I pop a Bale head on top of a Kang body and pretend it's him unmasked, no problem. If I go around trying to paint these figures, with my skills, I've crossed over to another side and I don't want to go down that road. For Kang, I'm waiting to see how they'll do the mask. For Namor, I'm of two minds. If they give him a bodysuit, I was thinking of grabbing a Phicen body, and then popping on a Keanu head. But with Tron 3 happening, I may have a shot at a Leto HS, who'd have been a great 90s/00s-style Namor. I'll just have to play the waiting game and not get tempted into buying the WF look, if it happens. I'm rooting for either of these looks:

Get the suit, put it on a Phicen body, grab a trident loose from one of the Aquaman figures, pray Tron 3 happens, figures come out, and Leto gets an unmasked, neckless head, and hey presto! That's one solution. But dunno, perhaps they'll make the guy work out and shave next time, so who knows, maybe I'll like the look as is. I'll just have to resist my inner Namor fan telling me to consooooooooom all the product and pass on WF dolly; if it happens that is.

Well, Imperius mutha-lovin' Rex; Namor isn't the easiest mostly because of the head but...

Here are my parts (I acquire, dry fit then either continue on with that at the moment or table for later).

Elrond head, Zod Suit, scale armor (if desired), HY Toys body.

If you get the right seamless body, you can do that but the skin tone gets tricky. Then if you wanted to go classic Namor, obtain a Mysterio suit (cut it down to shorts) and there you go. Namor.

 

[Victοr]

Well, Imperius mutha-lovin' Rex; Namor isn't the easiest mostly because of the head but...

Here are my parts (I acquire, dry fit then either continue on with that at the moment or table for later).

Elrond head, Zod Suit, scale armor (if desired), HY Toys body.

If you get the right seamless body, you can do that but the skin tone gets tricky. Then if you wanted to go classic Namor, obtain a Mysterio suit (cut it down to shorts) and there you go. Namor.

Huh, that'd actually work. Get some gold vambraces, an Aquaman trident, and you've made it. The problem is that Weaving isn't handsome enough for Hot Namor, but he's got the ears and makes for a fine Classic/Older Namor. I'll keep it in mind, but I'll wait a bit to see what they'll do with him in the costume department MCU wise. Any way you cut it I'll be in the game until they make the last Doom dolly, so I can wait. Maybe they'll give him a shave and put him on roids. There is some decent concept art that didn't make it into the movie:

He looks better with longer hair and without the beard. A shave, lose the earrings and nosering, give him a suit, put him on a training regiment, and I'll (probably) not need to go looking for replacements.

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To bring it back to the thread's topic, I seriously don't understand how the suit is making a dude as big as Majors (he's not that tall, barely 6", but he's wide) look like a twig with a pumpkin head.

He looks fine (I still dislike the plasticky costume, but you get the point) here:

But as soon as the helmet comes up, he looks like a Funko Pop:

I hope the HT has better proportions, because I've noticed it in every shot of him with the (CGI) helmet on.

 

[KitbashOfficer]

To bring it back to the thread's topic, I seriously don't understand how the suit is making a dude as big as Majors (he's not that tall, barely 6", but he's wide) look like a twig with a pumpkin head.

He looks fine (I still dislike the plasticky costume, but you get the point) here:

But as soon as the helmet comes up, he looks like a Funko Pop:

I hope the HT has better proportions, because I've noticed it in every shot of him with the (CGI) helmet on.

For kitbash purposes, the White Vision head would actually make a good Kang head sculpt with some painting and additional line etching. The suit is more complex and would take a combination of various suits pieces and fabric. Already thinking about it if HT fails.

 

[Victοr]

For kitbash purposes, the White Vision head would actually make a good Kang head sculpt with some painting and additional line etching. The suit is more complex and would take a combination of various suits pieces and fabric. Already thinking about it if HT fails.

Huh, good thinking on White Vision. I'm not adventurous enough to try it, but it'd certainly work. Though we first need to see how the headsculpts is designed (neckless or with neck). The suit's good enough for me. None of the MCU designs are how I'd do them in live action anyhow. And we'll be getting at least two more Klawng dollies with TKD and SW. Maybe more. So I'll just wait and see. I'm rooting for the HT dolly to be good enough as is and not trouble me.

 

[KitbashOfficer]

Huh, good thinking on White Vision. I'm not adventurous enough to try it, but it'd certainly work. Though we first need to see how the headsculpts is designed (neckless or with neck). The suit's good enough for me. None of the MCU designs are how I'd do them in live action anyhow. And we'll be getting at least two more Klawng dollies with TKD and SW. Maybe more. So I'll just wait and see. I'm rooting for the HT dolly to be good enough as is and not trouble me.

I theorize that Kang's other "forms" will appear in the other movies (Rama-Tut, Immortus, Scarlet Centurion, etc.) after this movie instead of Regular look, but only a theory.