Masters of the Universe Classics

[teemu]

a thought, Millennial would be folks born in 80 onward, and likely grew up watching gi-joe cartoons. We grew up watching those cartoons, and He-man in reruns.

We're in our 30's now. So i get the feeling that calling it " a millennial approach reboot" means appealing to us.

Considering how much the G1 stuff in bumblebee resonated with folks, I think we're going to be getting a truer to the original material Gi joe.

if that means comics, or cartoons? Don't know. I'm hoping for a mix of both.

and I'm expecting a new MOTU film to bank hard on nostalgia as well.

Millennials were born between 1982 and 2002

I grew up with the cartoons as they were made and aired on TV. Not watching the re-runs later. If you are in your 30's, then you were not there to witness and collect some of the greatest GI Joe toys ever made during 1982-86, as likely you were too young to remember the glory days and collect any of it during its reign. So, I am not sure what exactly they mean by "Millennial" approach,but to me it sounds like, again, more of the same modern garbarge they have already made. I want classic characters from that era done right.

 

[lerath666]

got your years a little wrong there. Millennials were 81-96. I was born in 82. my friends and I all had Either a castle greyskull, or snake mountain, or Fright zone, or some combination of the three

Gi joe? I only missed out REALLY on owning the Flagg, and the terror drome. Everything else was easily available second hand. Flea markets and garage sales were my best friends for "new" toys as a kid, and I wasn't alone. Most of my friends were the same. And a couple of them had the Flagg.



Not to mention the MOUNTAIN of vintage kenner Star wars I had.

My generation didn't miss out. your generations Parents sold us all your stuff at deep discounts on the sidewalk

 

[teemu]

got your years a little wrong there. Millennials were 81-96. I was born in 82. my friends and I all had Either a castle greyskull, or snake mountain, or Fright zone, or some combination of the three

Gi joe? I only missed out REALLY on owning the Flagg, and the terror drome. Everything else was easily available second hand. Flea markets and garage sales were my best friends for "new" toys as a kid, and I wasn't alone. Most of my friends were the same. And a couple of them had the Flagg.



Not to mention the MOUNTAIN of vintage kenner Star wars I had.

My generation didn't miss out. your generations Parents sold us all your stuff at deep discounts on the sidewalk

Yeah, there are different opinions are what year millennials were born.

 

[BoosterX]

Yeah, there are different opinions are what year millennials were born.

What's funny is every millennial who's desperate to be Gen X. Had to break the news to my friend born in 82, "Sorry but you're the reason why we have instructions on shampoo bottles..."

 

[chaosMonkeyPoo]

got your years a little wrong there. Millennials were 81-96. I was born in 82. my friends and I all had Either a castle greyskull, or snake mountain, or Fright zone, or some combination of the three

Gi joe? I only missed out REALLY on owning the Flagg, and the terror drome. Everything else was easily available second hand. Flea markets and garage sales were my best friends for "new" toys as a kid, and I wasn't alone. Most of my friends were the same. And a couple of them had the Flagg.



Not to mention the MOUNTAIN of vintage kenner Star wars I had.

My generation didn't miss out. your generations Parents sold us all your stuff at deep discounts on the sidewalk

I'm with him. I was born in '83 (but only missed '82 by 3 days) and Gi Joe, MotU and (most importantly for me) Transformers DEFINED my childhood. If anything - we were even luckier than you guys who were 6+ when those first hit because I was still young enough to get super into the late 80s, early 90s new wave of kids stuff that a lot of you guys aged out of the time they hit. Like TMNT, the Batman boom, The X-Men cartoon, and even Power Rangers. Kids born in the early 80s were the perfect age to grow up with pretty much all of the best cartoons and were just getting old enough to appreciate older tastes when kenner fed us the Aliens/Terminator/Predator movie lines, so we got s chance to dive into those films right before the glory days of those movies ended.
Amazing ****ing time to be a kid.

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[BoosterX]

I'm with him. I was born in '83 (but only missed '82 by 3 days) and Gi Joe, MotU and (most importantly for me) Transformers DEFINED my childhood. If anything - we were even luckier than you guys who were 6+ when those first hit because I was still young enough to get super into the late 80s, early 90s new wave of kids stuff that a lot of you guys aged out of the time they hit. Like TMNT, the Batman boom, The X-Men cartoon, and even Power Rangers. Kids born in the early 80s were the perfect age to grow up with pretty much all of the best cartoons and were just getting old enough to appreciate older tastes when kenner fed us the Aliens/Terminator/Predator movie lines, so we got s chance to dive into those films right before the glory days of those movies ended.
Amazing ****ing time to be a kid.

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I'm 4 years older than you. What I grew up with as a toy mainly was Motu(family gifts at xmas/bdays/etc) and G.I Joe. What's nice is when TMNT hit I was 11-12~ (without checking the specific year) so I enjoyed that tremendously. However, this was the age when I found comic books and the X-Men cartoon hit. That was the building block of nostalgia. The cartoon was "young" enough and the Comics were dark enough to really explore the more mature portion.

I missed the whole Alien/Predator phase since I was a bit older.

Funny how a few years changes everything. Growing up in an analog world and then switching to Digital.

I actually got back into MOTUC because of the price point and had no clue 200x existed or even New Adventures/Galaxy quest He-Man So it's sad that Super7 took the lic and now figures are 50$ before shipping and the dollar skewed since 2008. So essentially with Mattel 22+10$ shipping was 32$ Canadian. Now that same figure from Super7 is going to cost me 75$ Canadian. Hard to justify.

As to what Teemu was saying and the counter points. I only know He-Man because of the Cartoon and the toys. However, I would prefer a more comics approach having collected them after from Darkhorse.

 

[teemu]

I'm with him. I was born in '83 (but only missed '82 by 3 days) and Gi Joe, MotU and (most importantly for me) Transformers DEFINED my childhood. If anything - we were even luckier than you guys who were 6+ when those first hit because I was still young enough to get super into the late 80s, early 90s new wave of kids stuff that a lot of you guys aged out of the time they hit. Like TMNT, the Batman boom, The X-Men cartoon, and even Power Rangers. Kids born in the early 80s were the perfect age to grow up with pretty much all of the best cartoons and were just getting old enough to appreciate older tastes when kenner fed us the Aliens/Terminator/Predator movie lines, so we got s chance to dive into those films right before the glory days of those movies ended.
Amazing ****ing time to be a kid.

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Trying to figure out how you guys were there collecting back in 82-86 when you were born in 82-83? You guys were just babies,I doubt your parents were buying you GI Joe figures at age 1-4 and even then later.....It was the Gen X who were there retail picking the greatest GI Joe line ever made back in 82-86. I was there during it's toy and cartoon reign snatching and hunting for figures straight off the retail shelves. Majority of you guys completely missed that part of time as it's nowhere near was the same as buying second hand from yard sales.

 

[BoosterX]

Dunno bout them but I was 5 years old when 84 hit. Joe was still around on Shelves way past into the late 80s. I remember my father being gone overseas ( Airforce) so he got me the Cobra nightraven but in 1988 at Kmart two years after release.

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[chaosMonkeyPoo]

Trying to figure out how you guys were there collecting back in 82-86 when you were born in 82-83? You guys were just babies,I doubt your parents were buying you GI Joe figures at age 1-4 and even then later.....It was the Gen X who were there retail picking the greatest GI Joe line ever made back in 82-86. I was there during it's toy and cartoon reign snatching and hunting for figures straight off the retail shelves. Majority of you guys completely missed that part of time as it's nowhere near was the same as buying second hand from yard sales.

The toys were still on shelves by the time I was getting action figures when I was 3-4. My first MotU was Faker, and shortly thereafter Hordak & Battle Armor He-Man (and Skeletor). I totally missed out on the first 2 versions on Snake-Eyes despite desperately searching and asking for multiple christmases. I ended up finally getting V3 when I was 6 (when it was released in 89).

I think a lot of people forget that those cartoons were still aired in syndication throughout the 80s. I watched GI joe and Transformers every day before I went to pre-school & Kindergarten in (I think that was 87-88?) and MotU and She-Ra were on every afternoon on the USA network when I came home from school (as a double feature!). I also had the old MotU picture books and the library near where I lived had a lot of the MotU vinyl records & books available to borrow so I regularly would get my hands on those too. Those books + records were actually the most influential to me as far as what my memories are of MotU cannon from when I was a kid, even more than the cartoon.

Also, for Halloween when I was 5 I also wore a slapped together costume of a really terrible and lame vinyl King Hiss costume thing along with a Skeletor mask one year for Halloween because my mom didn't know what mask when with what suit just knew that I really wanted to be Skeletor, and the department store was a mess and poorly organized. I hated the costume so much it directly makes me hate King Hiss and the snake me to this day.

So while I guess people like me missed the Heyday - it was still pretty prevalent even after it was losing steam. Its also possible - that part of the reason I was able to get so much He-Man stuff at that point is because it was possibly on sale for cheap (probably even on full on clearance prices) and me and all my friends were from poor-er families so thats the stuff our parents got us (also would explain why I got a lot of Gi Joes, and mostly only smaller Transformers like micromasters). I mean, for me (and a lot of kids in my situation) all we knew was the cartoon is still being aired and we were getting the toys and they were awesome. We had no way of knowing the brand was on the way out, and when your 3-6 years old that doesn't really matter to you.

 

[chaosMonkeyPoo]

I suppose the biggest difference in coming in late vs being there from the start is how later changes feel concurrent with the originals. She-Ra and He-Man were on at the same time for me so neither felt more important (or was the original) when I was a lad. Snake Eyes was always a ninja so I missed out in that evolution from commando to ninja. Hot Rod, Ultra Magnus, Galvatron and the rest of the season 3/Movie cast of Transformers felt just as important as the original season 1 cast.
And missing those changes and evolutions I guess meant we missed out but having it all at once was pretty rad.

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[teemu]

I suppose the biggest difference in coming in late vs being there from the start is how later changes feel concurrent with the originals.

This is definitely true for me, because I luckily got to be there from the very start (Same with MOTU). I guess I can't accept any changes But,even then when some of you guys were buying figures second hand at that time, the designs didn't change too much with the exception of some starting in 1988. 1989 and beyond in is when Joes really started to lose it's luster. My best memories of Joe were 1982-1986

 

[Eamon]

While it's true the cartoon propelled the toy line, considering the cartoons are just 20 minute toy commercials, He-man did just fine without the cartoon. 1982-1983 did just fine without Prince Adam

This is He-man to me

Filmation made that commercial and yes I too would've preferred the cartoon to look like that. However you are very wrong about the show being a "20 min long toy commercial". Which is always made little sense as there were few actual toys in it. While the Mattel wanted it to be a toy commrecial, Lou Schiemer "didn't give a **** about selling toys". Instead he made a show that was laden with morals, mostly story telling and very few actual toys. GI Joe on the other hand was blatant toy commercial in my opinion.
I do wonder how long MOTU would have stayed on the shelves had it not been on the cartoon.

 

[BoosterX]

...GI Joe on the other hand was blatant toy commercial in my opinion.
I do wonder how long MOTU would have stayed on the shelves had it not been on the cartoon.

Same as transformers. Makes you wonder why Motu hasn't died off and arguably has more products and material (comic books) hitting shelves than say G.I. Joe? Albeit less than Transformers.

 

[Eamon]

Same as transformers. Makes you wonder why Motu hasn't died off and arguably has more products and material (comic books) hitting shelves than say G.I. Joe? Albeit less than Transformers.

Well the fans have helped out and the Classics were very well recieved and of a high quality. Also becuse Mattel know that MOTU has potential to be a huge movie licence. I think the only reason for comics is to they have some "entertainment" out there for licensing reasons. There's a whole thing with Dreamworks and rights reverting etc.

 

[chaosMonkeyPoo]

Same as transformers. Makes you wonder why Motu hasn't died off and arguably has more products and material (comic books) hitting shelves than say G.I. Joe? Albeit less than Transformers.

The whole debacle with the 2nd Joe movie being pushed back 9 from its original release date only a few weeks before it was supposed to hit theaters (and after the movie toys were already on shelves in prep for said movie for a month or so) kind of screwed the Gi Joe brand as far as a license. Hasbro basically had to keep the same wave or two of toys on the shelves and hold the brand in stasis that entire 9 months and not push out any new product (because they didn't have time to come up with product to fill that huge gap and still wanted to have movie toys on the shelves when it released) while the movie got its act together and released really murdered the casual interest in joe to the point that they still haven't recovered.
Before that point - Joe was riding high on what was prior to that movie a successful toy-line that had a big resurgence a few years prior with the 25th Anniversary, and had a multiple reasonably well selling comic series with IDW, and a recently wrapped up cartoon that wasn't a massive hit but was relatively well received.

Long story short - Joe WAS killing it and then the brand got ****ed by the movie being postponed at the last minute causing Hasbro to lose a **** ton of money.

MOTU is doing consistent business becasue the brand has kept it relatively small scale in the last 10 years and slowly built up a fan trust again - and hasn't hasn't had a large scale financial loss that caused Mattel to get scared and pull the plug on anything related to it. Joe is kind of in a situation these days like what MotU was when the 200X series failed, though on a larger level as far as the brands owner being afraid to push it without some strong media tie-in.

 

[piccolodaimaoh]

They were all toy commercials, the only difference was after Transformers and GI Joe did their movies in 1986 and 1987 respectively their lines continued even though there were questionable changes made in those films. After the He-Man film in 1987 that was pretty much the end of that version of the He-Man Universe and a reboot with New Adventures. GI Joe continues with the collectors club but it is a shame that it seems like Hasbro's focus is on Transformers, Marvel and Star Wars and the line that started it all is just waiting for another film.

 

[teemu]

They were all toy commercials, .

Exactly! It doesn't matter what Lou wanted, it was all about money and selling toys like everything else is. These things are not made for our charity It's a business like everything else,We just bought into it

 

[DGSimo]

So looks like CG Wave 3 and the Filmation Ultimates are hitting retailers.

Hopefully BBTS gets their shipments and begins shipping soon.

 

[Dino_Ranger_White]

What retailers have them in stock?

 

[stshammgod]

That commercial is awesome! Ahhh... brings back memories...