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Re: Hot Toys - MMS DX 02 - TDK- BATMAN full spec and pics
Man, you guys are so ____ing retarded.
1.) Agen makes a fantastic picture. Batman, bat signal, the city, great atmosphere.
2.)
Accuracy whiners come in with "it's good except...THAT SIGNAL".
3.) Snake and myself point out that the signal in TDK is destroyed and playfully say that that emblem COULD be in TDKR (even though it most likely would not).
4.)
At first I thought you were joking and playing around about that whole Terminator discussion we had (go ask anyone in the Terminator section, T3 and Salvation are NOT canon). But now I think you're actually serious.
5.) Those signals aren't the same. Should the Begins emblem on the Begins suit be considered the same TDK logo (which was also used for the Begins ads, merchandise), no, they're both different.
Same with all those above. There's the 1989 costume logo with the feet, the '89/Returns (one gold, the other with snow) poster logo, the actual Returns costume emblem. Then there are the batsignals. There's the one at the end of '89 and then a unique one for Returns.
Then you have the Schumacher films. There's the costume logo (the one Agen used brilliantly for his signal), the Sonar suit emblem, the Batman and Robin one, the ice proof suit and the Schumacher batsignal itself.
That's a ton of unique symbols, at least 10 from all 6 films.
6.)
Of course Nolan wouldn't use it, but that's one of my original points, WHO THE ____ CARES WHAT NOLAN WOULD AND WOULDN'T USE?
This is Agen's photo, he can make all the creative liberties he wants. Who's to say, that, while highly unlikely, in TDKR Batman doesn't have a batsignal that just happens to look like the Forever logo?
It's creative, it looks great, and it doesn't matter. Again I say, who cares what Nolan will or will not use?
As for considering the Burton and Schumacher films canon, while technically I guess they ARE in the same universe, there's nothing stopping anyone from thinking they're not.
I don't consider the Schumacher films to be sequels to the Burton ones. Hell I don't even consider any of the films to go in any sequential order.
Different producers, different looks, different directions, different actors, different characters, different directors, different themes (visual and story) etc. etc.
There are a few, and only a few things that tie them together. Alfred, Gordon, and the flashback sequence in Batman Forever where it looks as though the killer is Jack Napier (plus "My parents were murdered by a maniac too") but other than that, they're all a farcry from being related.
PLUS this was a time when the word "reboot" had little to no meaning in comic book movies (hell it's over used today).
Going from Burton to Schumacher are drastic changes. If this ____ happened today you better believe it would be considered a "reboot" in the lame fictional "history" that fan boys create in their minds.
To me there are 6, soon to be 7 films of a FRANCHISE. Each one different from the other. That's all. I don't consider it ANY of it "canon", just movies that I like, that I view and consider one at a time.
Man, you guys are so ____ing retarded.
1.) Agen makes a fantastic picture. Batman, bat signal, the city, great atmosphere.
2.)
Accuracy whiners come in with "it's good except...THAT SIGNAL".
3.) Snake and myself point out that the signal in TDK is destroyed and playfully say that that emblem COULD be in TDKR (even though it most likely would not).
4.)
Really seems like you don't get the whole "universe" thing... :/
No way the Noland universe resurrects something from the Burton universe. I guarantee it.
At first I thought you were joking and playing around about that whole Terminator discussion we had (go ask anyone in the Terminator section, T3 and Salvation are NOT canon). But now I think you're actually serious.
5.) Those signals aren't the same. Should the Begins emblem on the Begins suit be considered the same TDK logo (which was also used for the Begins ads, merchandise), no, they're both different.
Same with all those above. There's the 1989 costume logo with the feet, the '89/Returns (one gold, the other with snow) poster logo, the actual Returns costume emblem. Then there are the batsignals. There's the one at the end of '89 and then a unique one for Returns.
Then you have the Schumacher films. There's the costume logo (the one Agen used brilliantly for his signal), the Sonar suit emblem, the Batman and Robin one, the ice proof suit and the Schumacher batsignal itself.
That's a ton of unique symbols, at least 10 from all 6 films.
6.)
So if Noland wouldn't use it than what are you talking about? Noland's directing TDKR sooo...
Umm... Burtons movies and the Schumacher movies are in the same continuity. Thus the same universe. Do you see the Schumacher movies as a reboot?
Also, it's the same symbol with very little variation in all 4 movies in that universe:
Of course Nolan wouldn't use it, but that's one of my original points, WHO THE ____ CARES WHAT NOLAN WOULD AND WOULDN'T USE?
This is Agen's photo, he can make all the creative liberties he wants. Who's to say, that, while highly unlikely, in TDKR Batman doesn't have a batsignal that just happens to look like the Forever logo?
It's creative, it looks great, and it doesn't matter. Again I say, who cares what Nolan will or will not use?
As for considering the Burton and Schumacher films canon, while technically I guess they ARE in the same universe, there's nothing stopping anyone from thinking they're not.
I don't consider the Schumacher films to be sequels to the Burton ones. Hell I don't even consider any of the films to go in any sequential order.
Different producers, different looks, different directions, different actors, different characters, different directors, different themes (visual and story) etc. etc.
There are a few, and only a few things that tie them together. Alfred, Gordon, and the flashback sequence in Batman Forever where it looks as though the killer is Jack Napier (plus "My parents were murdered by a maniac too") but other than that, they're all a farcry from being related.
PLUS this was a time when the word "reboot" had little to no meaning in comic book movies (hell it's over used today).
Going from Burton to Schumacher are drastic changes. If this ____ happened today you better believe it would be considered a "reboot" in the lame fictional "history" that fan boys create in their minds.
To me there are 6, soon to be 7 films of a FRANCHISE. Each one different from the other. That's all. I don't consider it ANY of it "canon", just movies that I like, that I view and consider one at a time.
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