My review of the PF Boba

[Karma]

Appears that way.

rise above it then

surely you've dealt with bigger & badder than me?

 

[pjam]

I'm happy for you Tom and Everyone else who loves this piece. But I ended up cancelling it because of much of what MC said in his review, it was a big $ hit with those changes and it didn't really appeal to me for the sale price.

It does look beautiful though, overall. I guess the helmet sculpt was the big deal breaker for me. Just seemed off...

 

[pixletwin]

no

I'm the ying to Josh's yang

bringing balance

Not a bit of presumption.

 

[MaulFan]

It's worth more than any other item in my collection because it's the piece of my dreams and I finally have it. It might not weigh as much as I expected, but that doesn't keep it from looking as beautiful as I had always hoped it would.

I have a feeling that's the mindset SSC expected when they approached the whole matter; expectation that those who ordered it did so to get a kickass looking Boba Fett PF and that a change in materials wouldn't bother people because his appearnce is the same. Now they've been presented with another side of collectible buying which is concern for what materials are used to generate the product and what the cost is of it with those materials, and I imagine they'll take this example and use it to better serve customers in the future.

 

[RoboDad]

no

I'm the ying to Josh's yang

bringing balance

First, it's yin, not ying, and second, you have yet to offer any. You don't own the piece, so you are no more qualified than Josh to comment on it. Other than one bash at Sideshow:

ouch......value = 1.5 stars

And one statement that you are really unqualified to make (as an admitted non-owner of the piece):

tbh, read it.....it's a very honest review, scores decently in all other catergories

Every other comment of yours has been an attack on Josh in one form or another.

 

[tomandshell]

I think that if this piece was $75-$100 less, then it would be almost universally hailed as a masterpiece. I think that a lot of people understand the plastic choice, they just think the price should be lower as a result. The assumption was made that as long as it looks fantastic in plastic, people will pay the same price as a polystone figure--and that turns out to be largely incorrect.

You could tell me that my Grievous was made entirely out of plastic instead of the current mix of plastic, metal and polystone--and it wouldn't change my opinion of it. It looks great and that's what matter to me. But I seem to be the exception to the rule.

 

[LOTRFan]

I have a feeling that's the mindset SSC expected when they approached the whole matter; expectation that those who ordered it did so to get a kickass looking Boba Fett PF and that a change in materials wouldn't bother people because his appearnce is the same. Now they've been presented with another side of collectible buying which is concern for what materials are used to generate the product and what the cost is of it with those materials, and I imagine they'll take this example and use it to better serve customers in the future.

I would agree, and was given every reason to:

The Premium Format figures also continue to evolve. The body understructure is now solid polystone, capturing the subtlety of the exact pose of the figure as it was initially designed, and lending weight that brings added presence to each character.

From the catalog/website, etc.

 

[Karma]

First, it's yin, not ying, and second, you have yet to offer any. You don't own the piece, so you are no more qualified than Josh to comment on it. Other than one bash at Sideshow:



And one statement that you are really unqualified to make (as an admitted non-owner of the piece):



Every other comment of yours has been an attack on Josh in one form or another.

wow, a multi-reply post, I'm honoured

I stand corrected on the spelling good sir, I thank you

so 1.5 stars is a good score?

 

[RoboDad]

I think that if this piece was $75-$100 less, then it would be almost universally hailed as a masterpiece. I think that a lot of people understand the plastic choice, they just think the price should be lower as a result. The assumption was made that as long as it looks fantastic in plastic, people will pay the same price as a polystone figure--and that turns out to be largely incorrect.

You could tell me that my Grievous was made entirely out of plastic instead of the current mix of plastic, metal and polystone--and it wouldn't change my opinion of it. It looks great and that's what matter to me. But I seem to be the exception to the rule.

I think you are right Tom, although that has been my biggest frustration with the naysayers. Even in Michael's review, where he takes the time to acknowledge that both ABS and polystone are plastic, he does so in the most backhanded way, and then completely ignores what he just wrote, when he laments that the core statue should have been made of polystone, "not plastic." I could even forgive that, had it been a single slip, but he then repeats the mantra several more times in the subsequent paragraphs.

 

[Fritz]

Best part of the review was the shout out to the Creature from the Black Lagoon!

 

[RoboDad]

so 1.5 stars is a good score?

And this question has what, exactly, to do with anything I said?

 

[MaulFan]

The assumption was made that as long as it looks fantastic in plastic, people will pay the same price as a polystone figure--and that turns out to be largely incorrect.

I'm sure for some people that assumption was right, it would apply for me. I know from owning pieces that the polystone material is heavier and harder and what not, but in my years of collecting, I've never researched or cared much about what materials go into a piece unless I thought a material could limit something I was hoping for the piece to do (like articulation or something). Mainly, when I buy collectibles, I look at what the item is, what my emotional value of it is, and if I think the item sale price comes up lesser than the emotional value it would give me. Many people would think spending $600 on a life size Darth Maul bust is crazy, but the joy I take in owning it is worth more than $600 to me, and I originally placed my order for the Boba PF thinking it was a nice looking piece that I felt having in my collection would give me a sense of joy that was greater than what I would have to invest in it, and were it not for having too many other things that would have great emotional value for me coming out, I would have kept the order, but I had to weigh some budgetary concerns and the smarter path for me was cancelling the order, I wish I didn't have to, but as they say, "you can't have your cake and eat it too." So I don't think Sideshow's assumption was without basis, and I think this ""incident"" is a first for them and will serve them well and be an eye opener. I think they were unaware of the ammount of people having the concerns that this PF raised, and it's unfortunate for those who had high hopes for this and are let down, but something at some point has to be the sign of how things are, it just happened to be this and not some other piece that people could have been more ok with coming up short of expectations.

 

[RoboDad]

Very well put, sir. Very well put.

 

[Karma]

And this question has what, exactly, to do with anything I said?

I have no opinion on the piece but I have an opinion on the score & that it is a bad one

the ouch part was the reflect that it might hurt sales of the piece, yes it is sold out but that won't reflect cancellations

 

[Radagaster]

Now that the base has been mentioned, I believe the top part of the Lurtz PF is the same way. When I mounted my Lurtz PF, I thought the base wouldn't handle the weight. Tt does make me wonder about how well the base would hold up in the case of an earthquake.

Somehow I'm not get warm fuzzies about the choice of making the base plastic. I'll need to understand SS' research on it. I realize the pegs may look as strong . ..

 

[Bullseye]

I think you are right Tom, although that has been my biggest frustration with the naysayers. Even in Michael's review, where he takes the time to acknowledge that both ABS and polystone are plastic, he does so in the most backhanded way, and then completely ignores what he just wrote, when he laments that the core statue should have been made of polystone, "not plastic." I could even forgive that, had it been a single slip, but he then repeats the mantra several more times in the subsequent paragraphs.

I don't think you can dismiss peoples views regarding the use of materials on this piece. Most people will admit that this looks incredible that has never been in doubt, at least for the majority.

A good analogy would be the difference between a high grade Lithograph on heavy duty paper and a giclee on canvas. They may have the same picture but when you study both up close you will see that the Giclee is superior.

You might reply but you won't know that Boba is light unless you lift it up and you would be right, however it will always be there in the back of your mind that it weights no more than a Bowen Mini Bust.

Michael was very fair in his review.

 

[LOTRFan]

Now that the base has been mentioned, I believe the top part of the Lurtz PF is the same way. When I mounted my Lurtz PF, I thought the base wouldn't handle the weight. Tt does make me wonder about how well the base would hold up in the case of an earthquake.

The base on both Lurtz and Frodo are hollow, but they are most certainly not rubber - they have some give, but are not squishy at all.

 

[Darklord Dave]

Well written review and your points are certainly valid. I don't have the piece yet, so I can't say that I won't agree. But I still think he at least LOOKS great.

 

[Fritz]

With all do respect to everyone and their opinion and coming from someone who doesn't own the piece but has seen it in person, the PVC inner structure isn't the issue. Drop the edition size from 4000 to 500 and all of a sudden this is one of the most desirable PF's ever. You know I'm right.

 

[The Josh]

I think you are right Tom, although that has been my biggest frustration with the naysayers. Even in Michael's review, where he takes the time to acknowledge that both ABS and polystone are plastic, he does so in the most backhanded way, and then completely ignores what he just wrote, when he laments that the core statue should have been made of polystone, "not plastic." I could even forgive that, had it been a single slip, but he then repeats the mantra several more times in the subsequent paragraphs.

That was my problem with the review. Kind of beats that drum several times over and over again.