GasparZizou
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Yeah I know, you cool, you cool. 
Neill Blomkamp's ALIEN is official!
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Well, I say Alien 3 is garbage. The only thing it's succeeded at, is tricking people to think otherwise! So, there.
GasparZizou
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You not cool.
I love this scene in Alien 3
Dillon: This is the choice. You die sitting here on your @$$ or you die out there. At least we take a shot. We owe it one. It's ****ed us up. Maybe we can get even for the others. Now how do you want it?
Morse: What the **** are you talking about?
Dillon: I'm talkin' about killing that big mother****er.
Eightyfive: Hold it, hold it! The rescue team's on its way. We could just sit this out.
Ripley: Rescue team for who?
Eightyfive: For us.
Ripley: They just want the beast. You know that.
Eightyfive: I don't give a damn what they want. They're not gonna pick us off one by one are they.
Ripley: I wouldn't be so sure
Eightyfive: Come on, they're gonna take us home.
Dillon: They're not gonna take us home.
Morse: Still doesn't mean we should go out and fight it. Jesus Christ give us a break!
Eightyfive: You guys have got to be ****ing nuts! Look I've got a wife and a kid-
Dillon: Nobody gives a s*** about you 85, you're not one of us, you're not a believer. You're a ****in' company man.
Eightyfive: Yeah ok, ok I'm a company man and not a ****ing criminal. You keep telling me how dumb I am. Well I'm smart enough not to have a life sentence on this rock!
Others: **** you! Piss off 85!
Eightyfive: Yeah and I'm smart enough to wait for some firepower to show up before we fight this thing! Right? Morse?
Dillon: Right, right. Ok. Just sit here on your @$$es. Fine.
Morse: How 'bout if I sit here on my arse.
Dillon: No problem. Oh, I forgot, you're the guy that's made a deal with God to live forever, huh. And all the rest of you pu$$ies can sit it out too. Me and her'll do all the fighting.
Morse: OK. But I want the same thing as you, I want to see it dead, I hate the ****er! It killed my mates too! Why the **** can't we wait for the company and have some guns on our side, why- why do we have to go on some ****ing suicide run?!
Eightyfive: Right!
Ripley: Because they won't kill it. They might kill you just for having seen it but they're not gonna kill it.
Eightyfive: That is crazy! That is Horse***t! They will not kill us!
Ripley: When they first heard about this thing it was ''crew expendable''. The next time they sent in marines. They were expendable too. What makes you think they're gonna care about a bunch of lifers who found God at the @$$ end of space. You really think they're gonna let you interfere with their plans for this thing? They think we're - we're crud. And they don't give a **** about one friend of yours that's - that's died. Not one.
Prisoner: Have you got some sort of plan?
Dillon: This is a lead works isn't it? All we gotta do is lure the ****ing beast into the mold, drown it in hot lead.
Morse: Alright, so how do we do that?
Other Prisoner: Yeah, what are we gonna use for bait?
Other Prisoner: Aw ****!
Dillon: We're all gonna die. The only question is when. This is as good a place as any...to take your first steps to heaven. Only question is how you check out...do you want it on your feet? Or on your ****in' knees - begging. I aint much for begging. Nobody ever gave me nothin'. So I say **** that thing! Lets fight it.
Morse: **** it. Lets go for it.
^^^ that's from the Assembly Cut. There's a bit of a goof there with Dillon saying ''only question is'' twice in a very short space of time. The reference to heaven was added in when they restored all the other religious stuff throughout other parts of the film.
Dillon: This is the choice. You die sitting here on your @$$ or you die out there. At least we take a shot. We owe it one. It's ****ed us up. Maybe we can get even for the others. Now how do you want it?
Morse: What the **** are you talking about?
Dillon: I'm talkin' about killing that big mother****er.
Eightyfive: Hold it, hold it! The rescue team's on its way. We could just sit this out.
Ripley: Rescue team for who?
Eightyfive: For us.
Ripley: They just want the beast. You know that.
Eightyfive: I don't give a damn what they want. They're not gonna pick us off one by one are they.
Ripley: I wouldn't be so sure
Eightyfive: Come on, they're gonna take us home.
Dillon: They're not gonna take us home.
Morse: Still doesn't mean we should go out and fight it. Jesus Christ give us a break!
Eightyfive: You guys have got to be ****ing nuts! Look I've got a wife and a kid-
Dillon: Nobody gives a s*** about you 85, you're not one of us, you're not a believer. You're a ****in' company man.
Eightyfive: Yeah ok, ok I'm a company man and not a ****ing criminal. You keep telling me how dumb I am. Well I'm smart enough not to have a life sentence on this rock!
Others: **** you! Piss off 85!
Eightyfive: Yeah and I'm smart enough to wait for some firepower to show up before we fight this thing! Right? Morse?
Dillon: Right, right. Ok. Just sit here on your @$$es. Fine.
Morse: How 'bout if I sit here on my arse.
Dillon: No problem. Oh, I forgot, you're the guy that's made a deal with God to live forever, huh. And all the rest of you pu$$ies can sit it out too. Me and her'll do all the fighting.
Morse: OK. But I want the same thing as you, I want to see it dead, I hate the ****er! It killed my mates too! Why the **** can't we wait for the company and have some guns on our side, why- why do we have to go on some ****ing suicide run?!
Eightyfive: Right!
Ripley: Because they won't kill it. They might kill you just for having seen it but they're not gonna kill it.
Eightyfive: That is crazy! That is Horse***t! They will not kill us!
Ripley: When they first heard about this thing it was ''crew expendable''. The next time they sent in marines. They were expendable too. What makes you think they're gonna care about a bunch of lifers who found God at the @$$ end of space. You really think they're gonna let you interfere with their plans for this thing? They think we're - we're crud. And they don't give a **** about one friend of yours that's - that's died. Not one.
Prisoner: Have you got some sort of plan?
Dillon: This is a lead works isn't it? All we gotta do is lure the ****ing beast into the mold, drown it in hot lead.
Morse: Alright, so how do we do that?
Other Prisoner: Yeah, what are we gonna use for bait?
Other Prisoner: Aw ****!
Dillon: We're all gonna die. The only question is when. This is as good a place as any...to take your first steps to heaven. Only question is how you check out...do you want it on your feet? Or on your ****in' knees - begging. I aint much for begging. Nobody ever gave me nothin'. So I say **** that thing! Lets fight it.
Morse: **** it. Lets go for it.
^^^ that's from the Assembly Cut. There's a bit of a goof there with Dillon saying ''only question is'' twice in a very short space of time. The reference to heaven was added in when they restored all the other religious stuff throughout other parts of the film.
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alien 1 is much more scary but i tend to enjoy watching alien 3 more than alien 1 (the directors cut edition) i just like the characters in 3 more and i like the brown/rusty look of the sets more than the look of alien
that brown rust look is such a 90s thing, a bunch of movies in the 90s had that color style, the crow 2, seven, end of days, it is very nostalgic
that brown rust look is such a 90s thing, a bunch of movies in the 90s had that color style, the crow 2, seven, end of days, it is very nostalgic
GasparZizou
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I'm not gonna lie, at one point reading this I thought: "and to think they're gonna replace this with some fan service"
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I always get chills when he says that. My favorite quote of all time. It's so damn dark and depressing, but incredibly inspirational at the same time - like the film itself.
I'm not gonna lie, at one point reading this I thought: "and to think they're gonna replace this with some fan service"
I'm all for the fan service. It's not replacing the existing Alien 3, we'll still have that. But now our curiosity will be sated for the 'what if' scenario of Hicks and Newt not getting killed. Worst case scenario it's crap and we can ignore it just as many of us ignore Alien Resurrection. I don't see any harm coming from this new film that hasn't already been done before anyway.
I love the argument they have with Morse and 85 laced with so many wonderful F-bombs. I truly think F'bombs help to sell the fear and desperation of characters in circumstances like these. That's why I find the lack of them in The Walking Dead so damned noticeable. It's implausible that people wouldn't say ***k in life & death situations.
I also like how incredulous 85 is at the idea that the company would sooner kill them than kill the alien. There's also a kind of humour in retrospect at how much the characters wish they had guns - just like much of the viewing audience wish they did. Nice little reference to the events of Alien and Aliens too.
Devil_666
Super Freak
I like that line from Dillion but the edited version:
Dillon: "We're all gonna die. The only question is how you check out...do you want it on your feet? Or on your ****in' knees - begging. I aint much for begging. Nobody ever gave me nothin'. So I say **** that thing! Lets fight it."
As far as the pipe scene, I always thought the intent was to show us what she was thinking not neccessarily what she was literally seeing. Similar to the end of Misery when the waitress walks up to Paul Sheldon and he "sees" Annie Wilkes. It's not that he's literally seeing her, it's what he's thinking: that every fan could potentially be another Annie Wilkes. So Ripley isn't literally seeing that Alien there (even though it's what we clearly see in the film), it's what she's thinking. Something she's probably thought about ever since the first film when the Big Chap popped out from behind those pipes at the end. I think it's a clever way to show how that incident traumatized her.
Dillon: "We're all gonna die. The only question is how you check out...do you want it on your feet? Or on your ****in' knees - begging. I aint much for begging. Nobody ever gave me nothin'. So I say **** that thing! Lets fight it."
As far as the pipe scene, I always thought the intent was to show us what she was thinking not neccessarily what she was literally seeing. Similar to the end of Misery when the waitress walks up to Paul Sheldon and he "sees" Annie Wilkes. It's not that he's literally seeing her, it's what he's thinking: that every fan could potentially be another Annie Wilkes. So Ripley isn't literally seeing that Alien there (even though it's what we clearly see in the film), it's what she's thinking. Something she's probably thought about ever since the first film when the Big Chap popped out from behind those pipes at the end. I think it's a clever way to show how that incident traumatized her.
olbertfrog
Super Freak
Well that sums it up.
Alien 3 is awesome.
Case closed
Alien 3 is awesome.
Case closed
Devil_666
Super Freak
Alien 3 sucks balls. 
Are you saying that the immediate sequel to Alien should have exactly copied the 79 film? A single creature, no guns?
abake
Rex Tremendae Majestatis
One of my favourite parts is Andrews' and Dillon's eulogy for Hicks and Newt.
Yes. Preferably on a ship too. An expendable crew of space truckers named Dallas, Kane, Lambert, and Brett would have been a plus as well. Cameron just went totally off the rails with new characters and situations and things. He even advanced the timeline. What the hell man, what the hell.
Agreed, another very good part - despite the fact it was depressing.
Down with that sort of thing.Aliens was a bold and daring film for being different from its predecessor. It carried on the story of Ripley and her involvement with the Alien in the only sensible way it could. Soldiers, guns, many Xenomorphs. In turn Alien 3 was bold and daring for not keeping the guns and multiple creatures which proved so popular in the second film. And it came up with (I think) an exciting way to have people tackling a single alien again. Surely both films can be appreciated for what they did.
The franchise possibly wouldn't have even got as far as 3 though if the immediate sequel to the '79 film had been just a straight up rehash. By all means like Alien 3 - I do. But Alien 3 owes itself to Aliens just as Aliens owes itself to the first film. That is literally the order of things.
I also read this, very good. I like that last point.
When the bambi burster answers Dillon's "amen" by extending its inner jaw... so perfectly twisted.
The gothic, apocalyptic feel of that whole film is what makes it for me. A1 is about discovery and confusion. A2 is about tension and confrontation. A3 is loss and acceptance.
On that token, not sure what the hell A4 was supposed to be about. Yet another reason why I find it difficult to accept it as canon. Not even the atmosphere is a logical continuation of what came before. Fun and worth some thought, but unnecessary IMO.
PS: What's more, our understanding of the creature seems to evolve from film to film. We really don't know much about Kane's son in the first one, other than it may have some oddly human tendencies, some sort of intelligence. In Aliens, it's revealed (though probably against Ridley and Giger's wishes) that the beasts have a hive mentality with the capacity for telepathy. In the third, the creature has this almost spiritual air about it, due to how the inmates build it up. Like with each entry in the series, it transcends another plane of existence, going higher and higher. "Feeds on minds."
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Agreed, another very good part - despite the fact it was depressing.
Aliens was a bold and daring film for being different from its predecessor. It carried on the story of Ripley and her involvement with the Alien in the only sensible way it could. Soldiers, guns, many Xenomorphs. In turn Alien 3 was bold and daring for not keeping the guns and multiple creatures which proved so popular in the second film. And it came up with (I think) an exciting way to have people tackling a single alien again. Surely both films can be appreciated for what they did.
The franchise possibly wouldn't have even got as far as 3 though if the immediate sequel to the '79 film had been just a straight up rehash. By all means like Alien 3 - I do. But Alien 3 owes itself to Aliens just as Aliens owes itself to the first film. That is literally the order of things.
I love alien 3 but I still have the alien puppet they used.
I love the actors a lot but I just can't get over the ugly puppet.
It just sucks so bad
