New 1:1 Berserker Predator Bust revealed in German Toyfair

[Silasya77]

Even I think of the P2 Elder in the same way. It wouldn't make sense to send a much higher ranking Pred to just oversee the P2 (and the others in the group, maybe) unless P2 belonged to the Royal family or something

Similarly, the AVP Elder too must not be having that high of a rank but I think he was higher than the P2 Elder just because of the fact that he had to overlook 3 of the 'trainees' and they were gonna encounter Xenos. But thats just me based on what I saw on-screen! :

Cheers,
Neo.

I personally feel the whole Lost clan was watching over P2. So maybe he IS part of the Royal family.

I always thought of the AVP Elder as some guy who goes around picking trainees up, dead or alive. The ship surely wasn't ALWAYS there when the AVP preds arrived on earth and began hunting, unlike P2 who probably arrived with the Lost ship, as he tried to escape in it.

So maybe he was the garbage man or taxi-ship driver that wasn't particularly high-ranking but has been doing it his whole life, earning enough respect that he could award whoever he damned well pleased.


Also while I'm at it, I do believe that P1 was a rogue hunter. I mean, everyone else was done after 1 hunt and got into a higher rank that ended their hunting career ala Lost Preds (P2, AVP, Predators). P1 seemed like he'd been around longer than all those, and should've been joining the Lost Preds lounging in the back of a ship waiting for another rookie to finish his hunt.


Just my opinions on these nerdy things.

 

[nicky1]

Next week this badass will be in Holland and i am going to pick him up

 

[Silasya77]

I've seen this guy in person, and man he's huge!

 

[Jedah Kalm]

I've seen this guy in person, and man he's huge!

 

[Silasya77]

Damn I set myself up didn't I.

 

[Jedah Kalm]

It's happened to all of us. You'll find a way to cope.

 

[greygoose]

The only down side is i can't give it away let alone sell it!

You'll have to hope your soul mate is rich and can afford to buy you figures.

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

For all we know an Elder isn't even the highest hierachy status. I doubt they sent a very important leader to Earth just to oversee P2's hunt.

There isn't some magical Predator kingdom where they all go grocery shopping, bowling, etc...
From what the movies tell us, there are individual clans that..go around hunting.

Me thinks he was a wee bit higher in ranks than the Lost Preds, kinda like how Berserker is a wee bit higher in ranks than Falconer and Berserker, or Celtic with Scar and Chopper. You get the idea.

He was miles ahead of the other Lost Hunters. He was the Elder, the clan leader. Celtic wasn't any higher than Chopper or Scar in ranks, they were equal..this is obvious. He was just more aggressive/liked to lead. They were on their Xeno, Unblooded hunter trial thing.

P2 surely was a little kid out on his first hunt, with Elder and the lost preds being the 'overseers'.

He wasn't on his first hunt. He was a Youngblood, the trophy case you see are HIS kills. Not the entire clans...that would make no sense.

The Elder and other Predators that were there, were there because they're all part of the same clan.
They weren't sent down there to watch over him by Mr. King Predator from the Predator kingdom....because there is no such thing.

P1 was dropped off by his clan because he was an elite hunter, he was older, much more experienced, he knew what he was doing.
P2 however, was a Youngblood who had much less experience, had never hunted Humans..had most likely never been to Earth. So instead of his clan dropping him off, they decided to stay near by to make sure he didn't screw anything up (which he did)...

 

[Kiva]

Celtic wasn't any higher than Chopper or Scar in ranks, they were equal..this is obvious.

It is hardly obvious. He displayed more reason to be a higher rank than Chopper and Scar than Berserker did over Tracker and Falconer.

Celtic was always the middle one in pose and was the one who lead. Then after they find that their guns are gone he dished out the orders to Chopper and Scar.

Just because all 3 were on a Xeno man-hood ritual it doesnt mean Celtic hadnt been going to sunday school and may be an expert in other hunting ways that the other 2 were not.

The movie went out of its way to make Celtic look like the lead Predator only to have us blind sided when grid kills him.

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

It is hardly obvious. He displayed more reason to be a higher rank than Chopper and Scar than Berserker did over Tracker and Falconer.

Celtic was always the middle one in pose and was the one who lead. Then after they find that their guns are gone he dished out the orders to Chopper and Scar.

Just because all 3 were on a Xeno man-hood ritual it doesnt mean Celtic hadnt been going to sunday school and may be an expert in other hunting ways that the other 2 were not.

No no no, it was incredibly obvious.
The whole flashback, the whole "three teenagers" thing..obvious.
He just took control of the situations, he wanted to be the boss. It was clearly stated that they were all equals who were on the same trial hunt.

It doesn't matter if he "studied" more than the others or not..he was of the same rank/status as them.
Like how Darth Bane studied more of the ancient Revan books, while the other students just went along with the normal teachings..they were all the same rank, yet Bane was much, much more powerful than the others.

 

[Kiva]

No no no, it was incredibly obvious.
The whole flashback, the whole "three teenagers" thing..obvious.
He just took control of the situations, he wanted to be the boss. It was clearly stated that they were all equals who were on the same trial hunt.

It wasnt even ambiguous. Celtic was leading the other 2 from the instant they landed in the snow. It was like it was already a clear cut plan that he was going to lead the way. They followed his lead. And we have no reason to dispute this.

And what was " clearly stated " that they were equals ? During the flashback voice over we know they were on a manhood ritual and they were the equivalent of " teens " but there is no excusing the fact Celtic was clearly leading thoes 2.

And if he "wanted" to be the boss why did we not see any bickering or any evidence to show this? All we saw was he was the boss.

Just because they were all going to get the same reward from the Xeno-Hunt it doesnt mean that Celtic hadnt been honored in other hunting skills and as a result got the role of leader when he wanted to get his Xeno license.

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

Because they didn't care and he was more arrogant/confident?

"clearly stated" was a poor choice of words.

This is better:

Anyone who has any knowledge of the Predator films can clearly see that the trio was of the same rank. That's what the story was..three Unblooded, young, teenage Predators were being sent on their first Xeno trial hunt thingy...It's what happens every 100 years or whatever.

 

[Kiva]

Yeah but the very end of that sentence is just full of " so what, Celtic chopper and Scar just sat around for 100 years not getting other merits in other areas while they wait to do the Xeno ritual?

And its clear to see to anybody with knowledge of the Predator movies that the 3 were equal rank? How so? I do not think so and many other forums as well as this thread people belie Celtic was the leader of the trio.

For my 3rd post in a row just because the 3 of them were on a Xeno manhood ritual it doesnt mean as soon as the hunt was over and before it even began Celtic was some child-prodigy who out ranked Scar and Chopper due to things he has done we have never heard about.

Maybe thats the reason he was so arrogant when he was facing grid 1 on 1.

There is a reason Celtic was " leading " and i dont think its because Scar and Chopper just didnt want to step up.

 

[nothingface35]

Haha, I love how you guys have been debating this all day and we really have no concrete answer. Saying something is obvious doesn't make it so. If you truly believe something then find a link somewhere and post it. Saying that you 'heard' something but can't remember where is kinda weak. I think both sides have correct and incorrect issues. I personally think all three were the same rank, but I think Celtic was of a higher skill set. All Generals or Majors in the US military may be the same rank but I highly doubt all have the same skill sets and are 100% equal in their thought processes. But remember, at the end of the day Griddy owned Celtic!!

 

[riky]

Given the end result the people responsible for making the film probably did not put as much thought into it as you two just did so really you can both be right

 

[Kiva]

If we are both right it means nobody won. we are both losers. Boooo!

 

[nothingface35]

If we are both right it means nobody won. we are both losers. Boooo!

Haha....or winners!!!!

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

Well, I always thought it was clear that they were Unbloodeds, that they were all equally ranked...Unblooded being that rank.

As for the skill thing, Scar definitely showed more than Celtic, and when Celtic did attack..he was just roaring and tossing around Grid, which is another reason I figured he was just more aggressive/arrogant than the other two...not a higher rank..

 

[Kiva]

Scar showed more Skill than Celtic? He did a cool jumping spear attack and he did a cool blade slice on the sneaking alien but... Lex saved Scar 4 times during AVP.... So he cannot be that skilled. He showed more ineptitude than any predator to date. He got facehuggered, blind sided all the time and left Weyland be then got flamethrowered.

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

Scar showed more Skill than Celtic? He did a cool jumping spear attack and he did a cool blade slice on the sneaking alien but... Lex saved Scar 4 times during AVP.... So he cannot be that skilled. He showed more ineptitude than any predator to date.

He tricked the Humans into believing he was a statue, slowly taking 1-2 of them out.. The Queen spear-through-the-head thing, slicing the Facehugger and Alien while pretending he didn't know they were there..

Celtic died because instead of doing the smart, leader-like thing and killing Grid..he literally wrestles with him until his death..

Chopper kicked the Human female, then was about to slice her when he gets tail-stabbed in the back..

I fail to see how Scar "showed more ineptitude than any Predator to date"

Oh, and keep in mind..they were all Unbloodeds, except Celtic..who was apparently of a higher rank..