New Doctor Who 1:6 from Big Chief Studios!

[Liz10]

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Oh man, I was stating my opinion, I even said I could be wrong when it comes to 1/6 figures so don't get your knickers in a twist. If you think he is the best, good for ya. Some people don't. And if you like it or not, he is not as popular anymore as he used to be and polls are often being manipulated so they aren't exactly reliable. He might still have lots of fans but they aren't necessarily into collecting. For the record, I would buy a 1/6 Ten (if he has the right hair).

In other news, I got my Eleven today.
Very happy with it, no complaints from me.

 

[gibbspaulus]

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I bloody love 1/6 collecting...


Basically, run... by gibbspaulus, on Flickr


The boxes will make you sad... by gibbspaulus, on Flickr

 

[DVD1]

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Nice photos. I too love collecting these 1/6 figures. 5 days till my Doctor arrives.
Today, I'm heading out to get the Tron Light Cycle. I think it's just what the Doctor should be driving!

 

[gibbspaulus]

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Oh yeah, I can totally see him revving that up. Probably more of a 3rd Doctor image!

 

[DVD1]

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Oh yeah, I can totally see him revving that up. Probably more of a 3rd Doctor image!

Now you're talking. Yes, that would be very cool.

 

[thecorsair]

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Oh man, I was stating my opinion, I even said I could be wrong when it comes to 1/6 figures so don't get your knickers in a twist. If you think he is the best, good for ya. Some people don't. And if you like it or not, he is not as popular anymore as he used to be and polls are often being manipulated so they aren't exactly reliable. He might still have lots of fans but they aren't necessarily into collecting. For the record, I would buy a 1/6 Ten (if he has the right hair).

In other news, I got my Eleven today.
Very happy with it, no complaints from me.

He is very popular but not the be all and end all that some of his fans seem to believe.

Contrary to their belief the show started in 1963, not 2006 when they jumped on the bandwagon.

Focusing on the characters from the present incarnation of the show makes sense initially but I would like to think Big Chief have plans for something from ALL eras.

 

[DVD1]

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I think 10 has to be next. I'd expect to see a reveal before the year is out for an early 2013 release. Maybe wishful thinking, but it mak sense. They must have a deal struck for David's likeness already, with the dynamix figure in work. With the coat, we are going to get a really cool figure to display. Long coats and capes make for fun displaying options. I spent ages positioning Superman on his pole, so that I could get that cape to billow just right
All good fun.

 

[Captain Britain]

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Sure you can buy the 10th Sonic anywhere for dirt cheap but try to nab a 5" figure in his trench for less than a mint. Having to go back and get the Daleks as I'm starting that collection I'm astonished at the prices that some stuff comes with.

Seriously? I remember when the line first started in the UK back in 2006 the Doctor in coat figure was the ultimate pegwarmer, totally choking shelves for months, so much so that some people thought that one figure alone would kill off the line.

 

[DVD1]

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Seriously? I remember when the line first started in the UK back in 2006 the Doctor in coat figure was the ultimate pegwarmer, totally choking shelves for months, so much so that some people thought that one figure alone would kill off the line.

That's true. It's actually the packaged 10 without coat that demands the big bucks (comparatively).
Actually, interest in the CO line has waned. FP in the uk have so much back catalogue stuff, including exclusives released a couple of years ago. They are dropping prices on specific figures, perhaps to generate interest in the line. The latest release was a box set from an episode that was on two years ago. My view on this was it was an old set they shelved. Anyways, regardless of their line, I hope that BC do well in this market.

 

[JonWes]

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Nice breakdown by BC in the thread. I think the problem has less to do with it not making sense from a "this is just how much it costs" standpoint to getting Who fans in general to embrace quality products even if the cost a bit more. When I say I think the price is a tad high. I'm not saying it's not competitively priced. I'm saying I worry that Who fans won't go for it at that price. I think if the price were lower they would have gotten more people on board. But of course, if the price can't be lower than that doesn't matter.

Still, I have to say I don't think anything quite of this level and craftsmanship has been attempted before AND there is quite a bit of general 1/6 fans who I think would jump on board. The failed product from Product Enterprises, WETA and Tonner all had some weaknesses here and there or were a different sort of product with possibly a smaller market. So I really hope it all works out. I do worry that if prices go up much more on these that I won't be able to keep going with them. But the same is true of Hot Toys too. I cancelled all my Avengers pre-orders except Loki. I'll be getting Iron Man. The rest, I've just got to give up. I'll definitely be getting every Doctor of these, though, until I'm priced out of them. And I do love the accessory pack idea. I am looking forward to how those turn out.

 

[Captain Britain]

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Just read the post from BC, great to see them engaging in a conversation with fans. It's hard to argue with someone who has all the financial information when you don't, but I would still respectfully disagree with them about the pricing. Although the figure appears to be of a high quality it still falls slightly short of Hot Toys sculpting, paintwork and outfit quality. That's why it feels overpriced to me, even though I have to accept the arguments of someone who has a spread sheet in front of them showing just what everything cost.

I'd never claim it was a rip off or anything like that, but I do question whether all those accessories were necessary, and the extra stand, especially as you are doing expansion packs. I generally only want a great figure and one key accessory; could you not have provided this at a lower cost, say £125, and then given collectors the chance to acquire the accessories separately if they wanted them? This could then have been a purchase I could have jumped straight into rather than one that makes me purse my lips and think hmmmm, not sure.

I don't mean to be negative - I'd love to own this figure and wish you all the best, but in the current climate a figure that I perceive to be 15-20% overpriced is likely to stay unbought.

 

[The Mike]

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I'm not buying Amy because I'm not super hot on her as a companion or a figure, but I'd buy Rose (and 10) in a heartbeat. I really hope that other figure sales don't keep a potential Rose from being made! (not that BC has even said they're considering it, but I can dream!)

I love Amy, she is definitely one of my favorite companions right up there with Donna. I definitely want all the companions so far but the one that I'd buy simply to have them all would be Martha, wasn't a huge fan of hers and I'm not sure any pricepoint would get me to buy a Mickey.

 

[Niceman]

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I love Amy, she is definitely one of my favorite companions right up there with Donna. I definitely want all the companions so far but the one that I'd buy simply to have them all would be Martha, wasn't a huge fan of hers and I'm not sure any pricepoint would get me to buy a Mickey.

No. I wouldn't buy a Mickey, and great as Martha was, I already have her. The CO version may not be BC level, but it's good enough.

Rose is at the top of my companions list, then Captain Jack Harkness and Tom Baker's ladies.

 

[SAB]

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Just read the post from BC, great to see them engaging in a conversation with fans. It's hard to argue with someone who has all the financial information when you don't, but I would still respectfully disagree with them about the pricing. Although the figure appears to be of a high quality it still falls slightly short of Hot Toys sculpting, paintwork and outfit quality. That's why it feels overpriced to me, even though I have to accept the arguments of someone who has a spread sheet in front of them showing just what everything cost.

I'd never claim it was a rip off or anything like that, but I do question whether all those accessories were necessary, and the extra stand, especially as you are doing expansion packs. I generally only want a great figure and one key accessory; could you not have provided this at a lower cost, say £125, and then given collectors the chance to acquire the accessories separately if they wanted them? This could then have been a purchase I could have jumped straight into rather than one that makes me purse my lips and think hmmmm, not sure.

I don't mean to be negative - I'd love to own this figure and wish you all the best, but in the current climate a figure that I perceive to be 15-20% overpriced is likely to stay unbought.

All true.
Its hard to simply claim production costs justify the high price when other companies are putting out higher quality for a similar price.

....though to be fair, while when this was first announced it may have seemed expensive, thankfully Hot Toys have come to the rescue with their decision to rip people off as much as possible with the Avengers line and specifically Iron Man 7 and Hulk.

In comparison this suddenly looks quite reasonable at $200 (from BBTS)

And though time will tell, if Big Chief can guarantee a higher QC than Enterbay and Hot Toys sometimes sloppy efforts, the higher price is also justified. I know I don't mind paying a little more for the better factory effort rather than HT and EB's constant shoulder shrugging at their errors. Initially at least it seems QC is very important to Big Chief here....

 

[Niceman]

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Just read the post from BC, great to see them engaging in a conversation with fans. It's hard to argue with someone who has all the financial information when you don't, but I would still respectfully disagree with them about the pricing. Although the figure appears to be of a high quality it still falls slightly short of Hot Toys sculpting, paintwork and outfit quality. That's why it feels overpriced to me, even though I have to accept the arguments of someone who has a spread sheet in front of them showing just what everything cost.

I'd never claim it was a rip off or anything like that, but I do question whether all those accessories were necessary, and the extra stand, especially as you are doing expansion packs. I generally only want a great figure and one key accessory; could you not have provided this at a lower cost, say £125, and then given collectors the chance to acquire the accessories separately if they wanted them? This could then have been a purchase I could have jumped straight into rather than one that makes me purse my lips and think hmmmm, not sure.

I don't mean to be negative - I'd love to own this figure and wish you all the best, but in the current climate a figure that I perceive to be 15-20% overpriced is likely to stay unbought.

I'm very happy to have the accessories and the stand. Presumably, it would be cheaper to buy them all at once rather than one at a time.

Anyway, I'm going to wait for my 11 to arrive until I say if the price is right or not. But I will say this: There isn't much room to raise the price from where it is now. If it costs $245 to get it to a buyer in the US, don't be surprised if you don't find many sales when that climbs to $300.

Would I pay $300 for Tennant or Baker? I'd think long and hard about it and hope for some excellent accessories. I would not pay $300 for any other Dr. Who characters.


Alright, Rose. You might be able to get that price from me for Rose if the likeness was good enough. LOL!

 

[sithlord13]

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That's the rub isn't it? The price is hittIng a ceiling. In the current climate I have had to really concentrate my buying. I ditched superman and the 89 batman range. ( man I want one of them batmobiles). So my decision to still get the dr was a big one. I even cancelled the ssc fett !!

I Think they are competative but the prices are
Just getting ridiculous now. ESP for less well known characters.

 

[Niceman]

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That's the rub isn't it? The price is hittIng a ceiling. In the current climate I have had to really concentrate my buying. I ditched superman and the 89 batman range. ( man I want one of them batmobiles). So my decision to still get the dr was a big one. I even cancelled the ssc fett !!

I Think they are competative but the prices are
Just getting ridiculous now. ESP for less well known characters.

Yeah, Hot Toys is pushing it as far as it can go. They know what hits TDKR and Avengers are and they are milking them for all they're worth, edging that price up and up. I'm looking forward to when I'm done buying Avengers and I have the main Batman characters. When that happens I'm going to get much much picker about the figures I buy. I'm planning on buying just SS Star Wars, BC Doctor Who, Prometheus (when that happens) and a few one-offs.

Of course, Dr. Who is likely to be high on my list!

I wonder if the 1/4 push is related to them hitting a limit of what they can get away with charging for 1/6 figures? Very few 12" figures are likely to sell for $300 or more, but what would the ceiling be for 1/4 figures? I would think they could get away with $500 without too much grumbling. I don't know, but that might work out better for the companies manufacturing/ selling them depending on how much more it costs to make a 1/4 figure verses a 1/6.

 

[DGTWoodward]

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Just read the post from BC, great to see them engaging in a conversation with fans. It's hard to argue with someone who has all the financial information when you don't, but I would still respectfully disagree with them about the pricing. Although the figure appears to be of a high quality it still falls slightly short of Hot Toys sculpting, paintwork and outfit quality. That's why it feels overpriced to me, even though I have to accept the arguments of someone who has a spread sheet in front of them showing just what everything cost.

I'd never claim it was a rip off or anything like that, but I do question whether all those accessories were necessary, and the extra stand, especially as you are doing expansion packs. I generally only want a great figure and one key accessory; could you not have provided this at a lower cost, say £125, and then given collectors the chance to acquire the accessories separately if they wanted them? This could then have been a purchase I could have jumped straight into rather than one that makes me purse my lips and think hmmmm, not sure.

I don't mean to be negative - I'd love to own this figure and wish you all the best, but in the current climate a figure that I perceive to be 15-20% overpriced is likely to stay unbought.

I am afraid that I am going to have to take you to task on some of your points Cap:B. You have expressed yourself very well and very clearly, and without hyperbole or histrionics, but certain things just don't sit well.

Whilst you personally might want a great figure with only one or two prime accessories, I'd say that this is quite an unusual stance. It's usually the case whereby, if a figure is very light on the extras at a 'high' price point, it will be the first thing folks will complain about! If you think that's not the case, look at the HT-AVENGERS HULK thread, the thing people are complaining about - because the arm material argument was always going to be a given - is 'swap out fists and a pair of trousers, for this money...you don't get much do you?'

The second and (as it turns out) most obvious thing, I am assuming that you have a friend or associate that actually has one of these, that you have had an up-close and hands-on view of this figure, yes? Because if the answer is "No" then it means you have made a whole host of value judgements on something's worth and all you have based it on is photographs and not actual experience.

Because that's how it's sounding right now.

 

[Captain Britain]

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I am afraid that I am going to have to take you to task on some of your points Cap:B. You have expressed yourself very well and very clearly, and without hyperbole or histrionics, but certain things just don't sit well.

Whilst you personally might want a great figure with only one or two prime accessories, I'd say that this is quite an unusual stance. It's usually the case whereby, if a figure is very light on the extras at a 'high' price point, it will be the first thing folks will complain about! If you think that's not the case, look at the HT-AVENGERS HULK thread, the thing people are complaining about - because the arm material argument was always going to be a given - is 'swap out fists and a pair of trousers, for this money...you don't get much do you?'

The second and (as it turns out) most obvious thing, I am assuming that you have a friend or associate that actually has one of these, that you have had an up-close and hands-on view of this figure, yes? Because if the answer is "No" then it means you have made a whole host of value judgements on something's worth and all you have based it on is photographs and not actual experience.

Because that's how it's sounding right now.

Thanks for the comments - I admit that I haven't held the figure in hand, and that doing so may change my opinion of what it is worth. On the other hand, I did collect for a very long time and my judgements are based on a lot of experience. But of course I could be wrong. I'd just repeat again that I don't think the price is that much off, but it is off for me by about £25, and that's enough to be worth of comment. I'm certainly not screaming rip-off and I still think it's a great effort, which I hope to own one day.

As for the accessories it may not be the majority view but I don't think it's uncommon - I've seen it expressed here before. Perhaps if people had no chance to own them separately then I could see why they'd disagree but the brilliant 'expansion packs' idea (it always makes me think of the carded Action Man accessories you used to be able to get or some of the Gilbert Bond stuff) would be a chance to put this stuff on the market while enabling people who just want the Doctor and one sonic screwdriver to get him at a reasonable price.

 

[DGTWoodward]

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Thanks for the comments - I admit that I haven't held the figure in hand, and that doing so may change my opinion of what it is worth. On the other hand, I did collect for a very long time and my judgements are based on a lot of experience. But of course I could be wrong. I'd just repeat again that I don't think the price is that much off, but it is off for me by about £25, and that's enough to be worth of comment. I'm certainly not screaming rip-off and I still think it's a great effort, which I hope to own one day.

As for the accessories it may not be the majority view but I don't think it's uncommon - I've seen it expressed here before. Perhaps if people had no chance to own them separately then I could see why they'd disagree but the brilliant 'expansion packs' idea (it always makes me think of the carded Action Man accessories you used to be able to get or some of the Gilbert Bond stuff) would be a chance to put this stuff on the market while enabling people who just want the Doctor and one sonic screwdriver to get him at a reasonable price.

Wow! It makes a real change to be able to have a differing comparison of views without it deteriorating into a flame war!

I too recall the carded ACTION MAN packs, I bought an awful lot of them (it also shows me what a sad state ACTION MAN is in now ) and yes the expansion packs are an excellent idea. But I tend to feel that BCS were on something of a tightrope regarding the buying community. You'd want something that has perhaps more than just 'average' contents for your first release but then it will cost...so what do you do?

If you yourself consider your view point to be somewhat in the minority, then surely BCS actually made the right 'percentage' choice for this first figure?

Still, I wish you luck in tracking one down, if it is at some near-future point. Mine is 28/250 so I was not disappointed, and I am looking forward to Amy and Tennant/Who. My personal WHOs (ie the ones I watched growing up) were Jon Pertwee and Tom Baker, so I cannot wait for these to arrive, when we hopefully get that far!

And yours?