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[TaliBane]

I’m not sure I follow that idea that TFA “ignored” the prequels. The way I see it is that it just didn’t come up. The prequel timeframe is now 2 generations removed from Rey and Finn, so it’s feasible that most of those events are pushed aside from memory in favor of more recent events (like what happened in the OT). In the movie, stuff from the OT is already just rumors and tall stories. And that was "only" 30 years prior. So what would events from 50+ years prior be like? Likewise the Clone Wars and those events were already half forgotten during the OT as well, stuff or legends and wild stories, to Luke at least.

So like I said, it just didn’t really come up.

Maybe JJ and company didn’t make an effort to sneak some prequel stuff in there, I’ll give you that. But then that would be just as forced as Finn finding the training ball or turning on the dejarik table and wouldn’t serve anything at all to the audience or the story. At least the callbacks to the OT were to incite nostalgia (although I think it was unnecessary) in us old timers. Do the prequel-ers need nostalgia from 15 years ago?

From Disney's perspective, I'm sure they simply wanted to play it safe. Why make references to a trilogy that was maligned and controversial for so long?

And TFA really was a love letter to the OT, in essence remaking it.

 

[Roders]

It was said a bit tongue-in-cheek.

No worries, I thought you were being serious is all!

 

[Lumos]

From Disney's perspective, I'm sure they simply wanted to play it safe. Why make references to a trilogy that was maligned and controversial for so long?

And TFA really was a love letter to the OT, in essence remaking it.

 

[Mad Old Lu]

I think it was pretty blatant how the film ignored easy opportunities to pay lip service to the PT. Maz refers to "the Sith, the Empire, and now the First Order" instead of "the Separatists, the Empire, and now the First Order." Technically the Trade Federation/Separatists *were* the bad guys of the PT and they were strategically ignored. Plus I thought it was pretty convenient that they had a "Republic City" complete with Senate and Chancellor that were NOT Coruscant. Again, it would have been an easy tie in to just not go out of their way to make a brand new Capital Planet that also appeared to be one giant city. It was like they said "if it originated in the PT, we're ignoring it or changing it."

People sometimes say that Kylo's "clone army" comment was somehow referencing the prequels but the "Clone War" had been discussed all the way back in ANH and obviously THAT movie wasn't referencing the prequels. You could almost make the case that they included Kylo's line about clones as simple clarification to the audience that those horrible things from the PT *won't* be appearing in the movie. Kind of like Cyclops mentioning "yellow spandex" in the first X-Men film. Finn also goes out of his way to say "like all of my kind I was taken from a family I never knew." They really hammered it home that there are no clones in this movie. Not to validate the PT, to me they appeared to be doing the opposite.

It doesn't mean that you can't see TFA as an extension of the PT + OT SE's but I just find it interesting that Abrams appeared to make the film in such a way that it's very easy to dismiss that the PT ever occurred. The entire movie itself even flows better if you go by the original ewok celebration where the Rebels were celebrating an isolated victory that wasn't some galaxy wide event.

I think the clone comment might be reaching a bit. I don't remember Maz's line about the "Sith, Empire and now First Order", but I also think people might be overthinking it. Again, I think the characters are just bringing up the more recent events instead of delving further into the past which seems perfectly natural. Also, the Separatists became the Empire, didn't it? Just like people don't bring up whatever the original Nazi party was (German Nationalists?), they just say "Nazis".

The Coruscant thing is strange and I too thought it was weird. But I didn't even think of considering a greater conspiracy to silence the PT. It was more like, "Hmm, I wonder why they didn't use Coruscant for the "republic city". Maybe something happened there that might get discussed in the sequel."

 

[TonTon]

I think PT fans were relieved when they found out that that planet wasn't Coruscant as it would have seemed more like an eff you to the PT to blow it up at the first opportunity.

 

[IrishJedi]

Irish I'm curious as to how you reconcile the prequels now. Prior to TFA I just assumed that Abrams would pull a "Days of Future Past" and try and tie all the prior good and bad films together in a way that redeemed the series. But then seeing how he redeemed the saga by flat out ignoring that the prequels ever even existed it has allowed me to finally do the same once and for all.

I'm not sure it was that deliberate, but I can tell you that many individuals involved in the new movies despise the prequels. That said, they still exist and are still canon and short of remaking them entirely (which I can't ever see happening) LFL/Disney will never sweep them under the rug entirely. We'll just likely continue to see the arms-length approach.

The Coruscant thing is strange and I too thought it was weird. But I didn't even think of considering a greater conspiracy to silence the PT. It was more like, "Hmm, I wonder why they didn't use Coruscant for the "republic city". Maybe something happened there that might get discussed in the sequel."

When the New Republic was formed one of the edicts was that Coruscant would no longer be the "Capital" world and yhe capital would only be in a system for a set amount of years and then they would move it to another, to prevent a single planet/system from being the center of all of the political power indefinitely.

 

[Tee-Kay]

An interesting find from a fellow collector from forum MintInBox www.mintinbox.net ? Page d?accueil



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An early tip at what's to come or a simple glitch?

 

[IrishJedi]

Yeah, that's been there a while and has been discussed here before. We shall see.

 

[Khev]

I think the clone comment might be reaching a bit.

Oh I know but clones *were* referenced in ANH so them being mentioned in TFA doesn't automatically make it a PT specific comment.

I don't remember Maz's line about the "Sith, Empire and now First Order", but I also think people might be overthinking it. Again, I think the characters are just bringing up the more recent events instead of delving further into the past which seems perfectly natural. Also, the Separatists became the Empire, didn't it? Just like people don't bring up whatever the original Nazi party was (German Nationalists?), they just say "Nazis".

Maz said something to the effect of "The Dark Side has taken many forms; the Sith, the Empire, and now the First Order." The Separatists didn't become the Empire, Palpatine re-organized the Republic into "the first Galactic Empire."

I think PT fans were relieved when they found out that that planet wasn't Coruscant as it would have seemed more like an eff you to the PT to blow it up at the first opportunity.

On my first viewing I assumed it *was* Coruscant and was definitely pleased to see it go.

I'm actually surprised that some of you seem to think that lack of PT references in TFA was somehow coincidental.

 

[Khev]

An interesting find from a fellow collector from forum MintInBox www.mintinbox.net ? Page d?accueil

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An early tip at what's to come or a simple glitch?

Does that typically mean that those filters refer to actual products? I ask because maybe Snoke is there because his name will simply appear in the description of, say, General Hux for instance. "General Hux reports directly to Supreme Leader Snoke, bla bla bla."

 

[Khev]

I'm not sure it was that deliberate, but I can tell you that many individuals involved in the new movies despise the prequels. That said, they still exist and are still canon and short of remaking them entirely (which I can't ever see happening) LFL/Disney will never sweep them under the rug entirely. We'll just likely continue to see the arms-length approach.

I didn't ask what Disney thought of the prequels. We all know they're official "canon" because of course Disney wants to keep reaping the profits of keeping those blu-rays on store shelves. If they swept them under the rug then they'd make less money. What I did ask was how *you* looked at the prequels now, but if you want to dodge the question that's fine.

I think that Abrams was careful to not blatantly "undo" anything that happened in the PT, he just contructed a tale that wasn't linked to them in any way, shape or form. Then everyone gets to decide if SW is better as a seven or four film saga. I think Abrams and Kasdan pretty blatantly made TFA as the fourth film in the saga, though I doubt that streak will continue when Johnson and Trevorrow have their say.

 

[Wor-Gar]

This tell me that TIE Special Forces and Finn Trooper are going to be made in 1/6th...

I really like the red highlights on the TIE helmet, keeps it from looking like a Licorice Man -- that's another one I think I'd get.


Here's the other set -- everyone accounted for, even Jakku.

 

[evenflow]

I passed on the regular Tie Fighter Pilot but would pick up the special forces one as well. Trooper Finn, most likely a pass. One would be enough for me.

 

[TaliBane]

Oh I know but clones *were* referenced in ANH so them being mentioned in TFA doesn't automatically make it a PT specific comment.

It's funny - back then to me it wasn't LITERALLY clones fighting in a war - "The Clone Wars" sounded cool and intriguing, sending your mind in many directions. The last, dopiest choice to me would have been a bunch of soldier guys who looked exactly alike coming off an assembly line (which to me was a bit too sci-fi.)

TFA has replaced that with mass baby-napping... I guess that works a little better.

I'm not sure it was that deliberate, but I can tell you that many individuals involved in the new movies despise the prequels. That said, they still exist and are still canon and short of remaking them entirely (which I can't ever see happening) LFL/Disney will never sweep them under the rug entirely. We'll just likely continue to see the arms-length approach.

I'm not sure it was that deliberate, but I can tell you that many individuals involved in the new movies despised JJ Abrams.

 

[IarnaOrgana]

This tell me that ... Finn Trooper are going to be made in 1/6th...

 

[SNIKT1950]

This tell me that TIE Special Forces and Finn Trooper are going to be made in 1/6th...

My thoughts exactly.

I expected FN-2187 but not the SF TIE Fighter Pilot.

Good news for us.

 

[Leebro]

I feel as though they did relate to the prequels. First of i must say I am a bit bias in that I loved the clone wars and to be honest I dont really care for anyone elses opinion. But the fact is that what they did with Kylo Ren was very similar to what happened to Anakin. I enjoyed the film not matter what if its star wars I will like it but to me it had so many almost reoccurring events happening in this movie as it did with previous movies. The way i saw this movie was this was suppose to make this generation have a movie similar to that of the original star wars.

 

[TonTon]

This tell me that TIE Special Forces and Finn Trooper are going to be made in 1/6th...

One thing I don't get here, why is Finn's drawn? Seems like a total afterthought.

My thoughts exactly.
I expected FN-2187 but not the SF TIE Fighter Pilot.

Really? All it requires is 2 strips of paint, that's maybe their easiest rehash so far. Am I now regretting my purchase of the regular TIE Pilot?!!!

 

[Khev]

Am I now regretting my purchase of the regular TIE Pilot?!!!

Nah, the regular TIE pilot was cooler in the movie. The Special Forces dude was the first to get shot down by Finn but the regular did all the fancy flying inside the Star Destroyer.

 

[TonTon]

Nice. I ended up buying one regular of each--snow, storm, and TIE, despite the obvious temptations all the other versions dangle in front of me, what with their fancy binoculars and chest ammo packs and pouches and pauldrons. Only one left is the flametrooper, who has no OT connection, but I'm sure I'll cave.