NHL General Discussion

[YankeesFanboy]

Really dude?

One good playoff round run in the last 20 years makes you relevant and allows you to talk smack about other franchises who have constantly been in the hunt year after year?

So by that token if the Knicks knock off the heat this year they have bragging rights until the heat knock them out? Pretty good comparison no?

Edit and to add, your teams wins nothing in the end and Crosby wins mvp but he's not relevant, please find me someone else behind you two local homers that agree with this

I'm a Devils fan. It pains me even more than you to give the Blueshirts any credit.

Not only did they knock out the Pens, they won the conference. So only a Kings fan could properly razz them.

 

[Deeznutz6]

Keep dancing puppet!



Fleury...Fleury...Fleury....give up 3 goals in the first 10 mins of the game and get roasted by Okposo in the SO to lose @ Consol

Way to go Isles

If you want boring uninspired repetive comments Peacock never fails to deliver

What you got planned this weekend Peacock? Magic the gathering tournament? Iron man marathon?

Don't know why I keep asking you questions, your such a wimp you dodge them all, anything that would pull back the curtain on you avoid

Here's another question, where those Rangers in the standings? That's what I thought

And if you ever actually posted in this thread prior to the last month you would have known I'm no fan of fleury, you proceed to bash him all you want

Since I'm so awesome I'll only be back on Monday, but don't Worry Peacock, it will be worth the wait

 

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

I'm a Devils fan. It pains me even more than you to give the Blueshirts any credit.

Not only did they knock out the Pens, they won the conference. So only a Kings fan could properly razz them.

Schooled by a Devils fan Sadly, you're wasting your time trying to educate this brain dead amoeba.

*butt hurt hypocrite*

Keep dancing puppet!

 

[Eli26]

Fleury...Fleury...Fleury....give up 3 goals in the first 10 mins of the game and get roasted by Okposo in the SO to lose @ Consol

Way to go Isles

You do know that every goalie has a bad game, right? I can tell you countless times where Lundqvist had blunders. There is hockey talk, and then there is plain ass trolling which gets old..... fast. Thus the reason pretty much everyone (and I am about to join those), who have given up on this thread. It's not a fun place anymore.

Lets cut down on the trolling so people can enjoy the thread, because as cokebabies has pointed out, this thread has gone down the Johnny Flusher, and before we make it about ourselves, we have to understand good hockey talk brings in others into the conversation. Trying to one up each other with insults, just drives people away. I missed the hockey talk of old, where you had a dozen-or-so guys sharing their opinions vs. in-the-now: the same few guys exchanging insults with each other. If you think it's fun to be tough guys behind a computer, find a new hobby... but this thread is not yours or mine, it's everyone's to enjoy, and so far nobody enjoys this place. If you do, then you sincerely need to figure your crap out and fix those priorities you call what's important in life. Because playing these crap games is just plain lame.

This post wasn't meant to be just directed at you Yankee Planet... it's directed towards all of us. So don't take it personally. I'll even throw myself into this group (because I have been at fault for stirring the pot), just so we can hopefully get past this BS. I for one would like to get behind all this crap.... Lots of great hockey topics. We shouldn't be hung up on the small stuff.

 

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

You do know that every goalie has a bad game, right? I can tell you countless times where Lundqvist had blunders. There is hockey talk, and then there is plain ass trolling which gets old..... fast. Thus the reason pretty much everyone (and I am about to join those), who have given up on this thread. It's not a fun place anymore.

Lets cut down on the trolling so people can enjoy the thread, because as cokebabies has pointed out, this thread has gone down the Johnny Flusher, and before we make it about ourselves, we have to understand good hockey talk brings in others into the conversation. Trying to one up each other with insults, just drives people away. I missed the hockey talk of old, where you had a dozen-or-so guys sharing their opinions vs. in-the-now: the same few guys exchanging insults with each other. If you think it's fun to be tough guys behind a computer, find a new hobby... but this thread is not yours or mine, it's everyone's to enjoy, and so far nobody enjoys this place. If you do, then you sincerely need to figure your crap out and fix those priorities you call what's important in life. Because playing these crap games is just plain lame.

This post wasn't meant to be just directed at you Yankee Planet... it's directed towards all of us. So don't take it personally. I'll even throw myself into this group (because I have been at fault for stirring the pot), just so we can hopefully get past this BS. I for one would like to get behind all this crap.... Lots of great hockey topics. We shouldn't be hung up on the small stuff.

Yeah, it's not fun when your team loses and is the brunt of the jokes the next day is it?

Like I stated earlier, I'm fine with normal NHL discussion Eli, nothing wrong with that.

 

[Grenouille]

Rask is now 3-12-3 against Montreal. Good thing they don't play again until February. Maybe next time half the team won't be watching from the 9th floor.

 

[Eli26]

Yeah, it's not fun when your team loses and is the brunt of the jokes the next day is it?

Like I stated earlier, I'm fine with normal NHL discussion Eli, nothing wrong with that.

No, again Mr. Troll... more to do with the other stuff... not the Fleury ***. I just said every goalie has a bad game. Again, what's our record and what's the Rangers? Just sayin'. Remember who started to crap on Crosby and the Penguins... it was you. So yeah.. The stuff I was more-so referring to was the crap you and Deeznutz have been doing... the trading of insults. Super trolling each other. Kiss and make up already so the thread can move along instead of cycling the same crap... Like a hamster on its wheel. Seriously, hating each other over such trivial small things is silly.

 

[Eli26]

Rask is now 3-12-3 against Montreal. Good thing they don't play again until February. Maybe next time half the team won't be watching from the 9th floor.

Now I'll be a troll... Prout's knock down of Lucic was a thing of beauty.

 

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

No, again Mr. Troll... more to do with the other stuff... not Fleury ***. I just said every goalie has a bad game. The other stuff was the crap you and Deeznutz have been doing... the trading of insults. Kiss and make up. Seriously, hating each other over such trivial small things is silly.

You got it twisted homie. You call me the troll, yet he's the one telling people they can't post here b/c their current EC defending championship team isn't relevant. You fire shots, expect return fire, don't cry about it. Easy solution, muzzle your mutt.

 

[Eli26]

You got it twisted homie. You call me the troll, yet he's the one telling people they can't post here b/c their current EC defending championship team isn't relevant. You fire shots, expect return fire, don't cry about it. Easy solution, muzzle your mutt.

Dude, I even said I was a troll in here. Don't take it personally. A lot of us are being trolls. lol

And really, you can't hate a guy for stuff said in this thread. Man, we're hockey fans... in the end, we're just a bunch of hockey lovin' nutjobs who want to talk hockey. It is fun to boast about your team... and be competitive.. what boys do, but we need to know how far to take it. It's been taken too far. And again, I wouldn't have an issue with you putting down Fleury, but you did *** the Pens from the get-go. It's not easy liking a team on top. hehe

Seriously I was a fan of that team when nobody gave a **** about it. I don't even have a Crosby or Malkin jersey in my collection, but I have a Lemieux and Francis jersey, and my Ronny goes back to the early 90's. I am not for the new so-called Pen fans who jumped aboard when the getting was good. 2001-05 was a difficult time. Getting booed at hockey games for wearing my Pens jersey... or being laughed at on the bus ride with a bunch of hockey fans to a Minnesota Wild game. This was when Winnipeg didn't have a team. Closest NHL city was Minneapolis/St. Paul area.

 

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

Dude, I even said I was a troll in here. Don't take it personally. A lot of us are being trolls. lol

And really, you can't hate a guy for stuff said in this thread. Man, we're hockey fans... in the end, we're just a bunch of hockey lovin' nutjobs who want to talk hockey. It is fun to boast about your team... and be competitive.. what boys do, but we need to know how far to take it. It's been taken too far. And again, I wouldn't have an issue with you putting down Fleury, but you did *** the Pens from the get-go. It's not easy liking a team on top. hehe

Seriously I was a fan of that team when nobody gave a **** about it. I don't even have a Crosby or Malkin jersey in my collection, but I have a Lemieux and Francis jersey, and my Ronny goes back to the early 90's. I am not for the new so-called Pen fans who jumped aboard when the getting was good. 2001-05 was a difficult time. Getting booed at hockey games for wearing my Pens jersey... or being laughed at on the bus ride with a bunch of hockey fans to a Minnesota Wild game. This was when Winnipeg didn't have a team. Closest NHL city was Minneapolis/St. Paul area.

I didn't '***' the Pens until the mutt started posting how the NYR's are irrelevant and I reminded her who sent her packing in game 7 at Consol last post season, which set her off in a tail spin lol. If you haven't noticed, I haven't read any of his last half dozen posts either.

The only other discussion where Pens were mentioned was when you posted you had the 2 "best players" in the league on your club. Those of us disagreeing with you isn't a ***, it's disagreeing. We don't all drink the Pittsburgh kool aid, and since your boys have recorded a few early post season exits recently you're going to have to accept other opinions.

Now, if you're done trying to tell people how to post do you want to talk NHL?

 

[Eli26]

I didn't '***' the Pens until the mutt started posting how the NYR's are irrelevant and I reminded her who sent her packing in game 7 at Consol last post season, which set her off in a tail spin lol. If you haven't noticed, I haven't read any of his last half dozen posts either.

The only other discussion where Pens were mentioned was when you posted you had the 2 "best players" in the league on your club. Those of us disagreeing with you isn't a ***, it's disagreeing. We don't all drink the Pittsburgh kool aid, and since your boys have recorded a few early post season exits recently you're going to have to accept other opinions.

Now, if you're done trying to tell people how to post do you want to talk NHL?

It's a fact we have the two best players in the game. The numbers, individual and team awards (not just with the Pens, but their respective countries and lower levels).... and if you look at power rankings... Crosby is 1st in every ranking known to a hockey fan. There is a reason for that, because he's this generation's Orr/Gretzky/Lemieux. But using Anze Kopitar as a player who's better? Really?! Btw Guess who plays on Malkin's line.. stone hands Nikki Spaling! Yet Mr. Malkin has a prorate of a 100 points. What's Kopitar on pace for? Don't get me wrong, I like Anze, but c'mon... for reels? FO REELS REELS?!

Anywho, lets get off this hamster wheel and move onto other things...who's your teams favourite prospect... mine is Brian Dumoulin for Pittsburgh and it's a tie between Nikolai Ehlers and Connor Hellebuyck for Winnipeg.

 

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

It's a fact we have the two best players in the game. The numbers, individual and team awards (not just with the Pens, but their respective countries and lower levels).... and if you look at power rankings... Crosby is 1st in every ranking known to a hockey fan. There is a reason for that, because he's this generation's Orr/Gretzky/Lemieux. But using Anze Kopitar as a player who's better? Really?! Btw Guess who plays on Malkin's line.. stone hands Nikki Spaling! Yet Mr. Malkin has a prorate of a 100 points. What's Kopitar on pace for? Don't get me wrong, I like Anze, but c'mon... for reels? FO REELS REELS?!

Anywho, lets get off this hamster wheel and move onto other things...who's your teams favourite prospect... mine is Brian Dumoulin for Pittsburgh and it's a tie between Nikolai Ehlers and Connor Hellebuyck for Winnipeg.

Crosby and/or Malkin aren't ranked 1st in any statistical category as of tonight, but okay.

As for prospects, I liked JT Miller for us when he was up for 20 or so games last year, I recall him netting 2 goals in his second game up vs the Isles. He's a 2 way player, hope they give him another shot.

 

[Eli26]

I said rankings... If you know how rankings work. Not scoring leaders, even though we know Crosby and Malkin will most likely finish 1 and 2 in scoring, health permitting. Last year who won the scoring title? And who was prorated to finish second in scoring with 99 points? My point is this is a moot topic, because this is simply... what is.... The two best players belong on the Pens. Also, how about you take a tallie of a 100 hockey fans and see what you come up with... and yes, lets not pretend Voracek is going to keep this up. What do you believe in more? Voracek keeping it up or Crosby... If we use history, with what the Rangers did last year, we can bring up history on our end as well... Life is a two-way street after all, no? C'mon now. You know better than that. Stop reaching. Anyway, I am done discussing this. I don't even need to argue it any further because it's silly. I am just as belligerent and incorrigible as you...haha

I like JT Miller as well. I even like Kevin Hayes. He's a great signing this past Summer for you guys. I thought for sure he would sign with Calgary due to the fact he played on a line with Johnny Gaudreau and Bill Arnold in Boston College. And those two are Flames. He even hinted about it on his Twitter, how the three should reunite.

 

[YankeesFanboy]

As they say in the trade...let 'em go.

 

[Eli26]

No..... the fighting is lame. Seriously we're losing posters as a result.

 

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

*stuff* Anyway, I am done discussing this. I don't even need to argue it any further because it's silly. I am just as belligerent and incorrigible as you...haha

I like JT Miller as well. I even like Kevin Hayes. He's a great signing this past Summer for you guys. I thought for sure he would sign with Calgary due to the fact he played on a line with Johnny Gaudreau and Bill Arnold in Boston College. And those two are Flames. He even hinted about it on his Twitter, how the three should reunite.

You ask me a bunch of questions and before I can answer them, you go ahead and say you're done discussing it? Okay, that's fine b/c we won't ever agree.

As for the prospects, sorry I misinterpreted your question. I liked Miller, but it wouldn't kill me if he was traded. NYR have been absolutely desperate for depth at the center position for years and there's nothing in the current prospect pool that will fill that void. We do have a chock full of defensemen and 2 way guys though.

As they say in the trade...let 'em go.

Great clip, that brings back memories.

Did you watch your boys last night? They started the rookie goal tender, he looked pretty sold for 95% of the game, but the D let him down with 5 minutes to go and he gave up 2 goals to tie it, then lost in the SO.

NYR plays Montreal next, which is pretty much a loss as MTL has owned them pretty much. Then we get Tampa again......geez.

 

[Eli26]

Look at me being nice bringing up Lundqvist's shutout. There, I have done it.

And you're right, you don't have to agree with me. Just like you don't have to agree that the Earth is round. Sphere like in shape.

Jannik Hansen, the NHL's best 4th liner? On pace for 30 goals! 8 goals in 21 games. Wowsa!

And yet the Penguins 4th line consists of 3 guys with a point each. Don't get me wrong, they are a great shutdown line, but 3 points between 3 players a quarter way-in? Eeep! At least the Pens 3rd line is playing better than most teams second lines! Heck, I will go as far as saying they are out playing some team's 1st lines! And that's the difference about the Pens of this year vs. last... we didn't have a credible bottom six. And now, so far knock on wood *knocks on wood*, we do. Now to find better linemates for Malkin.

I can see Pittsburgh trading a defenseman for a forward. We have so many good dmen in the pipeline, but not enough good scoring, high IQ wingers. Losing Dupuis, while not a huge loss, is a loss nonetheless. We need to replace him and Jussi Jokinen's presence in the top six. Again, love the third line of Comeau-Sutter-Downie.

 

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

ESPN's NHL front page headline is great:

Lundqvist Stuns Habs - Henrik Lunqvist said no all night long as the suddenly stingy Rangers stomped on the league-leading Canadiens on Sunday

The boys are looking a lot better with Stephan back in the line up, even though he's admitted he still doesn't feel 100%, and we're still without our Captain who can't get back soon enough. Nash added a tally to tie Stammer for #2 in goal scoring.

 

[Eli26]

We should talk about other teams for ****s and giggles... because us touting our own teams gets kind of old and boring.... fast. There are 30 teams in the NHL.

How about the rivalry between Calgary and Edmonton. Edmonton has had 4 straight years of top 3 picks, and 3 of those years being 1st overall selections... yet they are on the basement floor with the Buffalo Sabres. And with the Sabres play of late, they maybe pushing above the Oil. Back to Edmonton, this is a team that has had 3 1st overall picks, a 3rd overall selection this year, signed arguably the most hyped and touted defenseman in College hockey in recent memory in Justin Schultz. Also added two big top six forwards in David Perron and Teddy Purcell. So what's the dealio? Yes, mediocre defence and goaltending, and obviously a coach who isn't connecting with his young team.

Then you have Calgary, who looks like a joke on paper, who lost their top star to Summer Free Agency in Mike Cammalleri, lost their former Vezina stud goaltender, Miikka Kiprusoff to retirement. Have been handed a slew of injuries, including their top drafted pick, Sam Bennett! Yet the team is 13-6-2 in the standings, with a team goal differential of plus-10! I hear Michael Babcock wants to finish his coaching career out in Calgary after this season, which has been the rumours swirling around. His family is from there, so he wants to be closer... but here's the thing, no way in hell does another coach get so much that Bob Hartley does out of that roster. Seriously, their forward crop ranks among the very worst. Yet they are playing like they are in the top mix. Moving along... This is also a former Stanley Cup winning coach, with the Colorado Avalanche. I am starting to believe this run that the Flames are having is for real. They are definitely not a product of overplaying themselves, but being a product of a well coached, hard working organization, that backcheck, forechecks... doesn't have any quit (last night's game they were down by a pair and came back to win the game illustrates that), they play a strong physical, high tempo game of speed led by Mason Raymond (currently on the IR), Paul Byron, and former Hobey Baker standout, Johnny "Hockey" Gaudreau. The best pairing on D led by captain Mark Giordano and another supremely skilled push rushing blueliner, in parter T.J. Brodie, not to mention they are backstopped by a stellar tandem in Jonas Hiller and Karri Ramo. Brian Burke and company are schooling teams on how to do it properly in-house, drafting in the later rounds like Detroit, but unlike Detroit, being a highly competitive team despite lacking the star power of the aforementioned teams.