Nolan Dark Knight Trilogy (BB/TDK/TDKR)

[CelticPredator]

It's not the movie becoming popular, it's the dumb fans that won't stop fapping and losing their **** over it. It's obnoxious.

 

[batfan08]

It's not the movie becoming popular, it's the dumb fans that won't stop fapping and losing their **** over it. It's obnoxious.

I find the fact that you keep repeating this dumb generalization to be incredibly obnoxious. Seriously, what, exactly, is "fapping" and "losing their ****?" Is it the fact that people enjoy the films? Did it ever occur to you that, perhaps, people just talk about it because they like it? It seems to me like the people who are really being obnoxious are those who complain about "the dumb, obnoxious fans."

 

[CelticPredator]

They haven't proved me wrong yet. Especially with the previous Batman 89 sucks post.

 

[batfan08]

They haven't proved me wrong yet. Especially with the previous Batman 89 sucks post.

Who said that? 89 Batman is awesome, Returns is awesome (even though I bust DiFabio's chops sometimes), 66 Batman is awesome, Nolan Batman is awesome; hell, even Schumacher Batman has some redeeming qualities. At the end of the day, there are going to be obnoxious fans, but it's unfair to those who aren't to generalize, and, frankly, it's unfair to the films to judge them based on the actions of a certain part of the fanbase.

 

[CelticPredator]

The question was, why are these movies getting flack lately. It's because of the fans. I answered the question.
I've been a fan of something with a absolutely horrible fan base, but I knew I didn't count because I did the opposite of what they did. So it never bothered me.

 

[highlander1]

I have kept my opion to myself about rises ,because i absolutely hated the ending. I feel like it was a crap ending. I loved the 1st 2 movies and new batsuit design but hated the 3rd movie was very depressing and just cant see BRUCE just givin his house away to a bunch of orphans because robin cried to him about no more funding from wayne foundation. The real bats would fix his company not get beat like a ***** and batman never retire's...

 

[ironwez20]

I find the fact that you keep repeating this dumb generalization to be incredibly obnoxious. Seriously, what, exactly, is "fapping" and "losing their ****?" Is it the fact that people enjoy the films? Did it ever occur to you that, perhaps, people just talk about it because they like it? It seems to me like the people who are really being obnoxious are those who complain about "the dumb, obnoxious fans."

I think what Celtic (and I) hate is that people tend to say that these are the greatest movies ever and are what ALL comic book movies should be. Some claim they are perfect and get batman down to a t. It's annoying. Sure it's cool to have an opinion and have debates but being a blind fanboy is annoying. Nolan's batman isn't the best trilogy or the best movies ever made. I mean it's cool to think that but why must they keep saying it over and over again.

 

[Zen Mutiny]

The very idea that you can tell Batman's entire story from beginning to end, in just 3 movies, is flawed to begin with. The character has been around for nearly 80 years, how are you going to encompass all of that in just 3 films? But that's ok, Nolan represents the last of the old guard in superhero films. The time in which a single man can come in and make one movie or a trilogy about a character and do it his own way, continuity be damned, are over, or will at least be reduced to one-offs that have no bearing on the primary version of the character. The new generation (Feige, Whedon, Snyder) realizes that comics are long-form storytelling that span entire universes, with crossovers, and actual continuity. Comic book movies have just become a far more organized affair, much closer to the source material that spawned them. Any director or writer going forward will have to answer to the demands of the overall continuity. That's what happens when you make a movie about someone else's characters. You have to follow certain rules. You have to fall in line with a larger, long-term vision. But that's ok. Things weren't like that when Nolan had his turn. He was free to conceive and kill Batman in a mere 3 films that didn't have to tie into any larger picture. So yes, Nolan's Batman is dead. He was never meant to last. Hopefully, Snyder will make things much more open-ended, and ensure a brighter cinematic future for the character and for the rest of the DC universe.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

The question was, why are these movies getting flack lately. It's because of the fans. I answered the question.
I've been a fan of something with a absolutely horrible fan base, but I knew I didn't count because I did the opposite of what they did. So it never bothered me.

Balance is finally being restored to the force

 

[Frank Jaeger]

I don't know why some people are in here being so butt hurt crying about people that prefer the Nolan films or think that these are the best iterations of Batman while insisting that Burtons Batmans are blatantly the better choice, but then go crying about the Nolan fans that post saying it's better than Burtons

Your in the Nolan Batman thread if you wanna go cry about how much better Burtons is then go into the right thread and do it. Your being the exact people you just said you didn't like. I understand how many people have a high post count now

Nobody is right, there all great films like
I said (bar TDKR) if you like Burton that's fine and if don't like the fans and what some of them do that's also fine, just don't be a fool to call someone out and then pretty much do the same thing

I'm sure people don't having a proper discussion about either film but a discussion is not X amount of people coming in and telling you why this isn't anything like the 'real' Batman' while being in the Nolan thread. This is for the the Nolan fans, why come in and just try to belittle it with Burton butt hurt. Just stay in the Burton thread

Or even better make a Buton vs Nolan thread so you can all go and cry a little more and leave people in peace

 

[Zen Mutiny]

 

[Frank Jaeger]

great use of GIF because you have nothing relevant to say unless is sucking off Burtons Batman. My point still remains the same

 

[Zen Mutiny]

great use of GIF because you have nothing relevant to say unless is sucking off Burtons Batman. My point still remains the same

Nonsense. I have many posts that go in depth explaining what I do, and don't like about Nolan's trilogy. Not my problem you haven't read them.

Oh, and that's a jpeg, and very relevant.

Don't take it personally. That's aimed at everyone who's turned this thread into complaining about complaining.

 

[Frank Jaeger]

I've read all your posts, they basically just say why Nolans batman shouldn't be defined as the definitive Batman - then carrying on stating why you think it isn't good.

Again your in the Nolan Batman thread. It's fine to have discussions if your sole purpose here isn't to basically slag off the movies.

 

[JAWS]

They haven't proved me wrong yet. Especially with the previous Batman 89 sucks post.

Kind of a silly point.. When talking about movies there is no real "proving" someone wrong.

Hell I could say that I proved you were wrong about IM3 and yet I sure you wont say that I did. Which is fine because that is what different opinions is all about.

Prove that the 89 Batman did not suck..... That it is not full of plot holes... That he characters (that you claim are so improtant to a film) are not dull and boring. Prove that it does not have two awful Price video sequences Prove that there is one scene as exciting and intense as the 1st Bane vs Batman scene in TDKR..

Thing is, you could make a great point about all of them and that does not mean that I think you are right and have proven anything.

You should listen to your own words.

Your whole view on this movie is personal. That doesn't make it a bad film just because you didn't like it.

Come on people. Don't take this film discussion so seriously. Or at least try and see the point of view the other person is trying to make.

 

[JAWS]

It's not the movie becoming popular, it's the dumb fans that won't stop fapping and losing their **** over it. It's obnoxious.

Do you get upset about Star Wars fan boys.... LOTR fanboys.... Who cares.. I must not read these movie threads enough to get upset about these fanboys.

I find the fact that you keep repeating this dumb generalization to be incredibly obnoxious. Seriously, what, exactly, is "fapping" and "losing their ****?" Is it the fact that people enjoy the films? Did it ever occur to you that, perhaps, people just talk about it because they like it? It seems to me like the people who are really being obnoxious are those who complain about "the dumb, obnoxious fans."

If you love a film that Celtic does not love then you are just a Fanboy(TDKR) If you don't like a film that Celtic likes then you are just a comic fanboy (IM3). Hard to talk film with logic like that.

Who said that? 89 Batman is awesome, Returns is awesome (even though I bust DiFabio's chops sometimes), 66 Batman is awesome, Nolan Batman is awesome; hell, even Schumacher Batman has some redeeming qualities. At the end of the day, there are going to be obnoxious fans, but it's unfair to those who aren't to generalize, and, frankly, it's unfair to the films to judge them based on the actions of a certain part of the fanbase.

I did

Schumacher's Batman Forever is just a darker lighting step away from being just as good if not better then 89 Batman.... Yes I just said that ... Kilmer was a much more interesting Bruce Wayne then ...... Ah who am I kidding? Jim Carrey drives me nuts... I find forever unwatchable now. But there was a time I enjoyed it.

I have kept my opion to myself about rises ,because i absolutely hated the ending. I feel like it was a crap ending. I loved the 1st 2 movies and new batsuit design but hated the 3rd movie was very depressing and just cant see BRUCE just givin his house away to a bunch of orphans because robin cried to him about no more funding from wayne foundation. The real bats would fix his company not get beat like a ***** and batman never retire's...

Agree 100%... I try to view these films as just the Nolan universe Batman and they are in their own world.... That a real life Batman could not do this forever... But then that sort of makes him not Batman.... It does drive me crazy.

I think what Celtic (and I) hate is that people tend to say that these are the greatest movies ever and are what ALL comic book movies should be. Some claim they are perfect and get batman down to a t. It's annoying. Sure it's cool to have an opinion and have debates but being a blind fanboy is annoying. Nolan's batman isn't the best trilogy or the best movies ever made. I mean it's cool to think that but why must they keep saying it over and over again.

Nolan's Batman films IMO are 1 great film TDK, one very good but flawed film BB and one good but very flawed film TDKR.. But I am fine with someone loving these films and finding them perfect. If there was never going to be another Batman film then I could see getting angry but there will be so who cares?

The very idea that you can tell Batman's entire story from beginning to end, in just 3 movies, is flawed to begin with. The character has been around for nearly 80 years, how are you going to encompass all of that in just 3 films? But that's ok, Nolan represents the last of the old guard in superhero films. The time in which a single man can come in and make one movie or a trilogy about a character and do it his own way, continuity be damned, are over, or will at least be reduced to one-offs that have no bearing on the primary version of the character. The new generation (Feige, Whedon, Snyder) realizes that comics are long-form storytelling that span entire universes, with crossovers, and actual continuity. Comic book movies have just become a far more organized affair, much closer to the source material that spawned them. Any director or writer going forward will have to answer to the demands of the overall continuity. That's what happens when you make a movie about someone else's characters. You have to follow certain rules. You have to fall in line with a larger, long-term vision. But that's ok. Things weren't like that when Nolan had his turn. He was free to conceive and kill Batman in a mere 3 films that didn't have to tie into any larger picture. So yes, Nolan's Batman is dead. He was never meant to last. Hopefully, Snyder will make things much more open-ended, and ensure a brighter cinematic future for the character and for the rest of the DC universe.

Excellent points.. I just hope the new DC Batman and next Superman film are better then MOS

 

[Zen Mutiny]

Excellent points.. I just hope the new DC Batman and next Superman film are better then MOS

Thankfully, I don't think any of MoS's flaws are enough to hold the franchise back as a whole. Basically, the end result of MoS is a blank slate for Superman. It sets the next movie to pick up in exactly the spot you'd expect the comics or the animated series to begin.

 

[Platty]

I watched rises again last night. I love the fact the suit he fights bane in at the end is the dark knight suit.

 

[ironwez20]

Yes ..... He wore it through out right?

 

[CelticPredator]

I think he meant to say, he loved the fact that he fights Bane in the TDK suit at the end, despite pissing his pants 10 minutes earlier.