Noob Armor-all Question

[toylion]

Found this at Autobanter.com All you have to do is google Amor All Bad or Good.

OK, if you want a detailed chemical explanation, here goes.
Soft vinyl plastics (as opposed to things like PVC pipe)
contain a large amount of plasticizers. The one that is
almost universally used is dioctyl phthalate. It is a
relatively high molecular weight, water insoluble, nontoxic
compound. Over the course of time, the plasticizer will
vaporize and leach out of the vinyl causing it to become
stiff and brittle, which is when it cracks.

ArmorAll is an emulsion of dibutyl phthalate in water.
Dibutyl phthalate has a lower molecular weight than the
dioctyl phthalate in the factory soft vinyl. While it will
plump up and soften the plastic (good) the lower molecular
weight means that it is more volatile and more water soluble.
Therefore it will be lost more quickly to the environment
via vaporization and leaching. A nasty side effect is that
it will take the original plasticizer with it as it is lost.

What this means to the end user is that if you start using
ArmorAll you had better continue to do so, or your vinyl
will degrade much faster than if you had done nothing.

Andy Williams - real address andywlms at ct2 dot nai dot net

 

[FACEBOX]

Thanks.

I'll just have to keep using it then.

 

[The Ween]

Found this at Autobanter.com All you have to do is google Amor All Bad or Good.

Hmmmmm....strange. I've never had any trouble with it in all my years of on and off usage.

btw....I thought we were talking about using it on rubber? Rubber and vinyl are two different things.

 

[FACEBOX]

btw....I thought we were talking about using it on rubber? Rubber and vinyl are two different things.

Well it's supposed to work on both, so.....
Anyways, I just e-mailed them.

I'll let you all know if I hear from them in the next 48 hours.

 

[The Ween]

Well it's supposed to work on both, so.....
Anyways, I just e-mailed them.

I'll let you all know if I hear from them in the next 48 hours.

I was trying to find bad things about Armor all and all I could really find is that when it first came out there was some trouble with it being used on silicone based plastics. Seems it didn't do well when UVs hit it. Of course they're talking about plastics in cars that are exposed to the sun. They changed the formula after that. I'm still looking for something more current that says how bad it is now. There are some people who have older/classic cars who won't chance it based on what they heard in the past.

The reason you don't use Armor all on tires is not because it will harm the tire, but because it makes the surface slick which isn't a good thing, especially in rain or snow.

 

[DPrime]

It has been working fine for me thus far. FYI if Armor-all causes damage to your stuff, you should be able to get them to replace it for you. Well, at least pay for it.

It clearly states:
"Cleans away dust and debris"
"Renews and revitalises vinyl, rubber & plastics"
"100% satisfaction guaranteed...Armor-All absolutely guarantees its products will meet or exceed your highest standards".

So, if Armor-all damages your rubber, vinyl, etc while you're using it as directed, then you should qualify for reimbursement.

Yeah, reimbursement of the Armor-all... Unless I'm missing something, I wouldn't bet on them replacing a $100+ a piece Aliens collection! You might be able to take them to small claims court, but even then I don't think you'd win or anything...

 

[toylion]

btw....I thought we were talking about using it on rubber? Rubber and vinyl are two different things.

Has the same affect on tires which are rubber. I have personal experience with AA on rubber. I used it to preserve a reisussed G.I. Joe Scuba Diver. It melted right on to the figure. Had to scrub the suit off.

Sorry, but if you feel safe using it that's your choice. I'm just trying to warn you, not knock the product. Chemicals are going to cause chemical reaction. On the other hand rubber is not made to last forever. Just look at what's happened to alot of Vintage Toys, like Marx.

 

[FACEBOX]

Dear Mr. FACEBOX,


Thank you for contacting us about Armor All Protectant - Original. We always appreciate hearing from our consumers.



There is no set rule on how often to apply the protectant. It can be applied as needed to maintain surface appearance. Some consumers apply as often as every week, some every month, and some less often. Since you live in Florida with more direct sun light I would say at least once a month. I hope this helps you.



Again, thank you for contacting us.


Sincerely,





Patti Copper


Consumer Response Representative


Consumer Services


If you have additional questions or comments, please respond to this email.

 

[Elder_Predator2]

Wow, that was very helpful.

 

[FACEBOX]

Yeah, I know!

I'm perplexed by the complexity of this response.

 

[The Ween]

Dear Mr. FACEBOX,


Thank you for contacting us about Armor All Protectant - Original. We always appreciate hearing from our consumers.



There is no set rule on how often to apply the protectant. It can be applied as needed to maintain surface appearance. Some consumers apply as often as every week, some every month, and some less often. Since you live in Florida with more direct sun light I would say at least once a month. I hope this helps you.



Again, thank you for contacting us.


Sincerely,





Patti Copper


Consumer Response Representative


Consumer Services


If you have additional questions or comments, please respond to this email.

Did she realize that you weren't applying it to yourself?

 

[EVILFACE]

I was trying to find bad things about Armor all and all I could really find is that when it first came out there was some trouble with it being used on silicone based plastics. Seems it didn't do well when UVs hit it. Of course they're talking about plastics in cars that are exposed to the sun. They changed the formula after that. I'm still looking for something more current that says how bad it is now. There are some people who have older/classic cars who won't chance it based on what they heard in the past.

Basing it off years of using detailing products.

The reason you don't use Armor all on tires is not because it will harm the tire, but because it makes the surface slick which isn't a good thing, especially in rain or snow.

You put tire dressing on the sidewall, not the treads.

Armor All dries stuff out. But they are your toys so do what you like.

Prolly the only thing I would use is Mothers Leather Wipes.

 

[The Ween]

Basing it off years of using detailing products.



You put tire dressing on the sidewall, not the treads.

Armor All dries stuff out. But they are your toys so do what you like.

Prolly the only thing I would use is Mothers Leather Wipes.

Of course you put it on your sidewall, but do you know how many people would put it all over it?

You seem to think I'm arguing with you. I'm not. I had asked about using Armor all in another thread as well because some said the Alien's skin goes bad. I hadn't heard a thing bad about armor all till now.