OFFICIAL Hot Toys Metal Gear Solid thread..FINALLY A PHOTO!
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I don't really know much about MGS but with all this excitement about HT making the figs, I'm going out now to buy the game
I don't really know much about MGS but with all this excitement about HT making the figs, I'm going out now to buy the game
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Get your ____ together and buy this game NOW!
I don't really know much about MGS but with all this excitement about HT making the figs, I'm going out now to buy the game
Get your ____ together and buy this game NOW!
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No HT just announced license yesterday
No pics yet?
No HT just announced license yesterday
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Yeh I was being sarcastic bud.
Can't wait though! Wonder who will be first!!
Yeh I was being sarcastic bud.
Can't wait though! Wonder who will be first!!
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Re: OFFICIAL Hot Toys Metal Gear Solid thread
No excuse!
No HT just announced license yesterday
No excuse!
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yeaa ! go right now and buy all the games.
https://cgi.ebay.ca/NEW-SEALED-Meta...8257?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item1c12cada01
I don't really know much about MGS but with all this excitement about HT making the figs, I'm going out now to buy the game
yeaa ! go right now and buy all the games.
https://cgi.ebay.ca/NEW-SEALED-Meta...8257?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item1c12cada01
VALVOLINER
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Sorry, but I'am not agree with you..
Both suit are TOTALLY DIFFERENT from each other:
Diferent boots, pants, upper part, gloves, belt & pouches, harness, elbow and knee pads, holster... even the colors are different too....
PS: I have both Mcfarlane's figures
If they wanted to be smart about it, they could easily make MGS1 and MGS2 Snake in the same figure. Snake's MGS2 suit is the same suit from MGS1, without the vest or knee/elbow pads. They could give MGS1 Snake a second MGS2 head, removable vest, removable knee/elbow pads, and a MGS2 harness/webbing. Bam! 2 Snakes with 1 stone! And it would free up resources to give us another character.
Sorry, but I'am not agree with you..
Both suit are TOTALLY DIFFERENT from each other:
Diferent boots, pants, upper part, gloves, belt & pouches, harness, elbow and knee pads, holster... even the colors are different too....
PS: I have both Mcfarlane's figures
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I don't really know much about MGS but with all this excitement about HT making the figs, I'm going out now to buy the games
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mxn36
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Re: OFFICIAL Hot Toys Metal Gear Solid thread
You can't argue the suits are different based on the two McFarlane toys. Those figures are two interpretations of the character, independent of the original source material. Yes, there were artistic tweaks made to the suit by Kojima's creative team for MGS2, e.g. the suit is a little more blue. However, within the cannon of the game, the suits are supposed to be the same thing. And given the fact that Hot Toys will undoubtedly have to make some artistic changes to Snake's low-poly model from MGS1 anyway, I believe a happy middle-ground could be found between the two (for example, a bluish-gray under-suit).
P.S. I have both McFarlane figures too.
Sorry, but I'am not agree with you..
Both suit are TOTALLY DIFFERENT from each other:
Diferent boots, pants, upper part, gloves, belt & pouches, harness, elbow and knee pads, holster... even the colors are different too....
PS: I have both Mcfarlane's figures
You can't argue the suits are different based on the two McFarlane toys. Those figures are two interpretations of the character, independent of the original source material. Yes, there were artistic tweaks made to the suit by Kojima's creative team for MGS2, e.g. the suit is a little more blue. However, within the cannon of the game, the suits are supposed to be the same thing. And given the fact that Hot Toys will undoubtedly have to make some artistic changes to Snake's low-poly model from MGS1 anyway, I believe a happy middle-ground could be found between the two (for example, a bluish-gray under-suit).
P.S. I have both McFarlane figures too.
VALVOLINER
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Ok, but look at the pants for example (More baggy for MGS1 and tighten for MGS2 version)
The colors are different too, and I'am talking about the game and artworks (Shinkawa) suits not Mcfarlane's figures (amazing figures by the way..) : Grey for MGS1 and more bluish for MGS2 suit)
The lower harness has a different scheme, same thing for holster, belt or pouches (and some differences between boots, and elbow/knee pads)... If Ht tried to do an ACCURATE 2 in 1 Snake, then they would have to add 2 complete sets ( Solid Snake DX??
).
Anyways.. I believe that HT would do 2 differents Snake versions (MGS1 and 2) because the headsculpts, or even the weapons are also distintive from each other.. But Who knows??
The official Kojima's explanation for the suit differences was:
MGS1 suit: Best quality and better functions, because they're working for the US government
MGS2 suit: Cheaper (or poor) than MGS1 one, because they are working for a NGO (philanthropy)
I think that Macfarlane's MGS1 suit representation is almost perfect and 100% accurate.. but the headsculpt not so much.. and the same thing for MGS2 version, however the headsculpt is much better here..IMO
Shinkawas's artworks:
MGS1:
MGS2:
You can't argue the suits are different based on the two McFarlane toys. Those figures are two interpretations of the character, independent of the original source material. Yes, there were artistic tweaks made to the suit by Kojima's creative team for MGS2, e.g. the suit is a little more blue. However, within the cannon of the game, the suits are supposed to be the same thing. And given the fact that Hot Toys will undoubtedly have to make some artistic changes to Snake's low-poly model from MGS1 anyway, I believe happy middle-ground could be found between the two (for example, a bluish-gray under-suit).
P.S. I have both McFarlane figures too.
Ok, but look at the pants for example (More baggy for MGS1 and tighten for MGS2 version)
The colors are different too, and I'am talking about the game and artworks (Shinkawa) suits not Mcfarlane's figures (amazing figures by the way..
) : Grey for MGS1 and more bluish for MGS2 suit)The lower harness has a different scheme, same thing for holster, belt or pouches (and some differences between boots, and elbow/knee pads)... If Ht tried to do an ACCURATE 2 in 1 Snake, then they would have to add 2 complete sets ( Solid Snake DX??
).Anyways.. I believe that HT would do 2 differents Snake versions (MGS1 and 2) because the headsculpts, or even the weapons are also distintive from each other.. But Who knows??
The official Kojima's explanation for the suit differences was:
MGS1 suit: Best quality and better functions, because they're working for the US government
MGS2 suit: Cheaper (or poor) than MGS1 one, because they are working for a NGO (philanthropy)
I think that Macfarlane's MGS1 suit representation is almost perfect and 100% accurate.. but the headsculpt not so much.. and the same thing for MGS2 version, however the headsculpt is much better here..IMO
Shinkawas's artworks:
MGS1:
MGS2:
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great news but judging by the picture of snake and the boss, are hot toys going to come out with figs from mgs1 and 2 or only snake eater? i'd love to see a mgs2 version of snake which is my favorite look for him.
great news but judging by the picture of snake and the boss, are hot toys going to come out with figs from mgs1 and 2 or only snake eater? i'd love to see a mgs2 version of snake which is my favorite look for him.
hairlesswookiee
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Hopefully Snake Eater is just to get the ball rolling.
Hopefully Snake Eater is just to get the ball rolling.
mxn36
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While the MGS2 suit had a slight blue tint, it's still not blue, it's gray. It's nowhere near the color of those McFarlane and Medicom figures or even the Shinkawa conept art. Any shots like these where it appears blue is due to the surrounding environment, where everything else appears blue too.
Kojima wanted everything to have a cool dark blueish/green tint over it to emphasize the environment: night time, out on the waters. It's the "cinematography" of the game. But in good lighting, the suit would actually look a lot closer to this:
This shade of gray stays accurate to both the MGS1 and MGS2 suits.
As for Shinkawa's artwork, I think it's absolutely amazing (I own all the "Art of" books), and perfectly captures the "feel" of the character. However, in the end, it's just concept art, and the sketches are much too vague and inconsistent to serve as reliable reference for any sort of detail. The "true" versions of snake are the in-game models, which in MGS1's case, are too low-poly to see any details as well. Hell, the original MGS1 model didn't even have a holster like the concept art showed.
The best example is to compare the Twin Snakes suit with the MGS2 suit. When they made the re-make, they purposely matched the belt and boots to the MGS2 suit and made the pants look less "baggy". Because in the Metal Gear Solid universe, they were always supposed to be the same suit, so they went back and made slight changes to the original. It's called retconning. It's a little bit of cheating, and a little reminiscent of George Lucas, but it shows that they are trying to be consistent, and the Hot Toys figures should be as well.
The only glaring difference between the suits (aside from the coloring which I've addressed) is the webbing around the groin area. The MGS1 suit has a V pattern connecting directly to the belt, while the MGS2 suit wraps around the legs, but this could be another switchable piece. Like I said, the only difference between the suits is the head, lack of pads and vest, and a different torso/hip harness. Whether or not those extra/removable pieces would qualify it as a DX is debatable. The T-800 Terminator comes with an extra head, and the Dastan comes with a removable torso piece and different outfit. Neither of those are DX. But even if they don't go this route, which I doubt they will as well, I'd still like the under-suits from both figures to be the same.
Ok, but look at the pants for example (More baggy for MGS1 and tighten for MGS2 version)
The colors are different too, and I'am talking about the game and artworks (Shinkawa) suits not Mcfarlane's figures (amazing figures by the way..
The lower harness has a different scheme, same thing for holster, belt or pouches (and some differences between boots, and elbow/knee pads)... If Ht tried to do an ACCURATE 2 in 1 Snake, then they would have to add 2 complete sets ( Solid Snake DX??
Anyways.. I believe that HT would do 2 differents Snake versions (MGS1 and 2) because the headsculpts, or even the weapons are also distintive from each other.. But Who knows??
The official Kojima's explanation for the suit differences was:
MGS1 suit: Best quality and better functions, because they're working for the US government
MGS2 suit: Cheaper (or poor) than MGS1 one, because they are working for a NGO (philanthropy)
I think that Macfarlane's MGS1 suit representation is almost perfect and 100% accurate.. but the headsculpt not so much.. and the same thing for MGS2 version, however the headsculpt is much better here..IMO
While the MGS2 suit had a slight blue tint, it's still not blue, it's gray. It's nowhere near the color of those McFarlane and Medicom figures or even the Shinkawa conept art. Any shots like these where it appears blue is due to the surrounding environment, where everything else appears blue too.
Kojima wanted everything to have a cool dark blueish/green tint over it to emphasize the environment: night time, out on the waters. It's the "cinematography" of the game. But in good lighting, the suit would actually look a lot closer to this:
This shade of gray stays accurate to both the MGS1 and MGS2 suits.
As for Shinkawa's artwork, I think it's absolutely amazing (I own all the "Art of" books), and perfectly captures the "feel" of the character. However, in the end, it's just concept art, and the sketches are much too vague and inconsistent to serve as reliable reference for any sort of detail. The "true" versions of snake are the in-game models, which in MGS1's case, are too low-poly to see any details as well. Hell, the original MGS1 model didn't even have a holster like the concept art showed.
The best example is to compare the Twin Snakes suit with the MGS2 suit. When they made the re-make, they purposely matched the belt and boots to the MGS2 suit and made the pants look less "baggy". Because in the Metal Gear Solid universe, they were always supposed to be the same suit, so they went back and made slight changes to the original. It's called retconning. It's a little bit of cheating, and a little reminiscent of George Lucas, but it shows that they are trying to be consistent, and the Hot Toys figures should be as well.
The only glaring difference between the suits (aside from the coloring which I've addressed) is the webbing around the groin area. The MGS1 suit has a V pattern connecting directly to the belt, while the MGS2 suit wraps around the legs, but this could be another switchable piece. Like I said, the only difference between the suits is the head, lack of pads and vest, and a different torso/hip harness. Whether or not those extra/removable pieces would qualify it as a DX is debatable. The T-800 Terminator comes with an extra head, and the Dastan comes with a removable torso piece and different outfit. Neither of those are DX. But even if they don't go this route, which I doubt they will as well, I'd still like the under-suits from both figures to be the same.
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what was the ninja figure? was that a custom it didnt look like one
what was the ninja figure? was that a custom it didnt look like one
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Yeah it was a custom Iron Man. It could be a tease of things to come though. Maybe HT is dropping little hint...
Yeah it was a custom Iron Man. It could be a tease of things to come though. Maybe HT is dropping little hint...
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