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[Gipetto0812]

I agree that the things Blackbeard did were pretty ruthless but for me and from what it seems others as well, the way in which he did those things, the acting didn't portray him as such a bad ass.
As for Davy Jones, it was either serve or die instantly, not serve or go on your merry way.

As for age, Bill Nighy is just a few years younger than Ian McShane. And to be honest but not disrespectful in any way, it's really not our, the movie goer's job to empathize with the actor but with who they are portraying. Ok he's 70years old in real life but in the movie do we know how old he is (I don't recall them saying)? I don't know how old Anythiny Hopkins is but he's still throwing out some great performances at his age. He was fantastic as Odin.

 

[Webb]

I predict a major Flipper item.

 

[Centurion]

Looks like the final nail in the coffin indeed, with the announcement of the bottled Pearl and chalices.

 

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

They never really explain how Tia Dalma brought Barbossa back to the land of the living either, but since she was a "God in human form" then people seem to just say "ah...ok."

That's true, some things can't always be explained in the interest of time though and that is something I can live with.

Neglecting to give the audience any kind of background or history as to who Black Beard was or how he achieved his power was a much bigger deal to me since he plays an integral role in this film.

Just my opinion, don't want to derail the thread

 

[Rzeznikk]

That's true, some things can't always be explained in the interest of time though and that is something I can live with.

Neglecting to give the audience any kind of background or history as to who Black bear was or how he achieved his power was a much bigger deal to me since he plays an integral role in this film.

Just my opinion, don't want to derail the thread

I agree the new characters should have been fleshed out more. Especially Blackbeard.

 

[lerath666]

It was weird Blackbeard's powers were never explored.

His voodoo abilities were a great idea - a pirate that has spent a lot of time with savages and his learnt their dark abilities - genius and barely needs explaining on screen. But they didn't even give a one liner?

But the sword....where the did his magic sword come from? Why does it draw its power from the sea? Why is its powers only applied to the ability to control parts of ships? ....that needed a lot of 'splainin! LOL ...and we got none !?

Still the movie was a fun rollercoaster.

I agree the new characters should have been fleshed out more. Especially Blackbeard.

I agree, they left out a great deal.. it's almost like..

This is only the first act of a 3 act play......


And i loved it. Looking forward to what they bring next TBQH.

 

[Deckard]

Besides the fact that he was immortal/supernatural-Couldnt die unless stabbed in the heart.

Or that he controlled a giant leviathan that sank ships.

Or had mens throats slit if they chose not to serve (on camera no less, you can even see a spurt of blood on the DMC bluray thats crazy for a Disney movie!)

And he could leave his ship. He just needed to be in water. You see this towards the end of At Worlds End.

And Davy Jones was quite a great swordsman, fighting Jack in AWE atop the Dutchman (with a crab/peg leg no less)

Spoiler

where as Blackbeard gets bested by a one-legged old man....

Davy Jones was known as "The Devil".

Besides he Nighy brought a greater presence to the character than McShane did as Blackbeard.

Davy Jones was far more bad ass, imo.

Spoiler

Blackbeard was also supernatural, had the Triton sword, the voodoo, and survived having his head lopped off somehow. (I personally like the mystery) I find you can fear more what you don't know or understand.

Blackbeard leaves no prisoners, kills everyone and takes the ship, Barbossa was the sole exception. Davy Jones takes prisoners and offers them an alternative to death. Blackbeard does not, he just kills you, using your own ship sometimes.

For Disney Blackbeard is equally crazy, although again I say Mercer takes the cake, shot multiple women in the head etc

That wasn't really land in AWE, it was a sand bar in the ocean, and I hardly find a guy being carried by his crew in a bucket intimidating. If you were to simply stay in say London, Davy would likely be of no threat whatsoever.

The Maelstrom and that battle atop the ship in particular is one of the biggest reasons I dislike AWE, its way too over the top for Jack's character. Davy can at least ghost around if he loses his balance but Jack?

Nighy did fine, but I never found him all that intimidating. Both characters spoke somewhat softly and calmly for the most part.

 

[Rzeznikk]

Spoiler

Blackbeard was also supernatural, had the Triton sword, the voodoo, and survived having his head lopped off somehow. (I personally like the mystery) I find you can fear more what you don't know or understand.

Blackbeard leaves no prisoners, kills everyone and takes the ship, Barbossa was the sole exception. Davy Jones takes prisoners and offers them an alternative to death. Blackbeard does not, he just kills you, using your own ship sometimes.

That wasn't really land in AWE, it was a sand bar in the ocean, and I hardly find a guy being carried by his crew in a bucket intimidating. If you were to simply stay in say London, Davy would likely be of no threat whatsoever.

The Maelstrom and that battle atop the ship in particular is one of the biggest reasons I dislike AWE, its way too over the top for Jack's character. Davy can at least ghost around if he loses his balance but Jack?

Nighy did fine, but I never found him all that intimidating. Both characters spoke somewhat softly and calmly for the most part.

Davy Jones can also teleport. Forgot about that one. And Im thinking that he can go anywhere that is "wet" so say, if it rained out, its fair game. But thats just me.

The Maelstorm may have been over the top, but thats what makes these films so much fun, no?

Its not too far fetched for Jacks Character imo, considering the first time you see him in COTBP he is flinging from the ropes in a gallant effort to escape Norrinton and his men after Jack saves Elizabeth.

Its kinda like that guy said in AWE, does he plan it out or does he make it all up as he goes along?? He just does what he does without thinking it through for the most part. He just a very damned lucky Pirate.

EDIT: Oh and really Davy Jones was only a threat to Pirates or sea dwellers. They state that in the movie. He was issued the duty to ferry souls that have died AT SEA to the other side.

 

[hairlesswookiee]

It was weird Blackbeard's powers were never explored.

His voodoo abilities were a great idea - a pirate that has spent a lot of time with savages and his learnt their dark abilities - genius and barely needs explaining on screen. But they didn't even give a one liner?

Exactly. They could've just had Jack's little buddy that he met the when he first awoke on the ship explain this with a little "soldier's story."

They never really explain how Tia Dalma brought Barbossa back to the land of the living either, but since she was a "God in human form" then people seem to just say "ah...ok."

I never said that, but we're not talking about that movie so I'm not even going to get into the problems I had with those movies.

 

[Biojex]

Blackbeard gets to control a bunch of ropes. Jones get's a Kraken

Jones > Blackbeard

Ian Mcshane is still a bad ass though.

 

[Wor-Gar]

How did he attain his power?
What was his power exactly?
What is the significance of his sword?
How did he put life size ships into bottles?

I agree -- I wanted to know the answers to these too. Blackbeard's powers seem all across the board -- fire, controlling objects, shrinking not only whole ships but entire weather around them.... ???

I mean in the first one there's a curse, in the second Davy's a supernatural being.... so where does Blackbeard fall?

They could have simply said that Blackbeard got involved with voodoo to raise a crew then fell in deep with the powers of black magic. I would have been fine with just that.

 

[Rackemup]

Blackbeard gets to control a bunch of ropes. Jones get's a Kraken

Jones > Blackbeard

Ian Mcshane is still a bad ass though.

Davy Jones! Giant Squid!

 

[Biojex]

Davy Jones! Giant Squid!

Such a sexy hook.

 

[Rackemup]

Such a sexy hook.

Now back to the good part!!

 

[Biojex]

People keep saying Blackbeards not badass but

Spoiler

Hes 70 years old and walking around in extreme heat in a giant leather jacket and beard and can still hold his own in a fight.

Compared to Davy's crew who are bound to the ship by their own choice, Blackbeard simply keeps his men all but prisoner and gives them no say in where they go or what they do. (they also joined the crew under false pretenses and were lied to)

he frys the cook, he can't kill the rest of the crew for mutiny because hes going to kill them catching the mermaids.

He kills his own men who try to run out of the water away from the mermaids.

He denounces any faith in a god and accepts he will be going to hell if such a place exists.

Hes willing on several occasions to kill his own daughter to live on.

He has a ship he can sail without a crew and keeps the ships hes bested as trophies.

Davy was not really all that badass at all. He gave you the option of service your already doing anyway more or less. He couldn't leave his own ship, had too many weaknesses. Mr. Mercer was a far better villain then Davy.

Besides the fact that he was immortal/supernatural-Couldnt die unless stabbed in the heart.

Or that he controlled a giant leviathan that sank ships.

Or had mens throats slit if they chose not to serve (on camera no less, you can even see a spurt of blood on the DMC bluray thats crazy for a Disney movie!)

And he could leave his ship. He just needed to be in water. You see this towards the end of At Worlds End.

And Davy Jones was quite a great swordsman, fighting Jack in AWE atop the Dutchman (with a crab/peg leg no less)

Spoiler

where as Blackbeard gets bested by a one-legged old man....

Davy Jones was known as "The Devil".

Besides he Nighy brought a greater presence to the character than McShane did as Blackbeard.

Davy Jones was far more bad ass, imo.

Spoiler

Blackbeard was also supernatural, had the Triton sword, the voodoo, and survived having his head lopped off somehow. (I personally like the mystery) I find you can fear more what you don't know or understand.

Blackbeard leaves no prisoners, kills everyone and takes the ship, Barbossa was the sole exception. Davy Jones takes prisoners and offers them an alternative to death. Blackbeard does not, he just kills you, using your own ship sometimes.

For Disney Blackbeard is equally crazy, although again I say Mercer takes the cake, shot multiple women in the head etc

That wasn't really land in AWE, it was a sand bar in the ocean, and I hardly find a guy being carried by his crew in a bucket intimidating. If you were to simply stay in say London, Davy would likely be of no threat whatsoever.

The Maelstrom and that battle atop the ship in particular is one of the biggest reasons I dislike AWE, its way too over the top for Jack's character. Davy can at least ghost around if he loses his balance but Jack?

Nighy did fine, but I never found him all that intimidating. Both characters spoke somewhat softly and calmly for the most part.

Davy Jones can also teleport. Forgot about that one. And Im thinking that he can go anywhere that is "wet" so say, if it rained out, its fair game. But thats just me.

The Maelstorm may have been over the top, but thats what makes these films so much fun, no?

Its not too far fetched for Jacks Character imo, considering the first time you see him in COTBP he is flinging from the ropes in a gallant effort to escape Norrinton and his men after Jack saves Elizabeth.

Its kinda like that guy said in AWE, does he plan it out or does he make it all up as he goes along?? He just does what he does without thinking it through for the most part. He just a very damned lucky Pirate.

EDIT: Oh and really Davy Jones was only a threat to Pirates or sea dwellers. They state that in the movie. He was issued the duty to ferry souls that have died AT SEA to the other side.

Also! Davy Jones managed to kill both male leads! and only lost because he decided to start doing a monologue. The mark of a truly awesome villain.

Blackbeard lost because he can't tell when he's getting duped

 

[Rackemup]

Also! Davy Jones managed to kill both male leads! and only lost because he decided to start doing a monologue. The mark of a truly awesome villain.

Blackbeard lost because he can't tell when he's getting duped

Plus Blackbeard was kinda slow. At the point he was about to get stabbed, i was surprised he didn't hear the peg leg on the rocks coming towards him.

Davy could also take a stabbing from a sword which in my books is sweet!

 

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

Blackbeard gets to control a bunch of ropes. Jones get's a Kraken

Jones > Blackbeard

I agree -- I wanted to know the answers to these too. Blackbeard's powers seem all across the board -- fire, controlling objects, shrinking not only whole ships but entire weather around them.... ???

I mean in the first one there's a curse, in the second Davy's a supernatural being.... so where does Blackbeard fall?

They could have simply said that Blackbeard got involved with voodoo to raise a crew then fell in deep with the powers of black magic. I would have been fine with just that.

 

[Firebird]

I am loving the extra accessory HT's is giving us for this figure and can't wait to see the new announcement of the Angelica figure.

 

[Centurion]

I am loving the extra accessory HT's is giving us for this figure and can't wait to see the new announcement of the Angelica figure.

Yup, what a nice surprise.

 

[Cheungkinmen]

LOL. Seriously, if they keep doing this, HT will put Enterbay out of business in no time, unless Enterbay do something else altogether, or keep exploring the 1/4 scale market, like they are doing with their Arnie figure, but I suspect HT going there also to knock them down. XD