Official Hot Toys Pirates of the Caribbean Jack Sparrow DX06 Spec + Pics

[gotham_collector87]

Yeah the rooted hair on HTs figures just doesn't look right and is the main reason I don't own any female figures yet. Hopefully they can master that art one day.

 

[JosephCPR]

I think the implication is, a skilled customizer can do it with life-like realism, but even Hot Toys looks like a Mattel figure when they do it. I would agree. It's neat and all, but I feel like the rooted hair gives a toyish quality to HT figures and brings them down a bit vs. sculpted hair with the sculpt and paint level HT uses.

Yeah the rooted hair on HTs figures just doesn't look right and is the main reason I don't own any female figures yet. Hopefully they can master that art one day.

I understand what you mean with the toyish quality that rooted hair may give to a figure, but believe me, I have the Black Widow and if you put a little effort, the hair can look really good.

It is just a question of patience IMO. I am certainly not against its use (rooted hair, not patience ).

 

[MaulFan]

I find, it's not so much styling the overall hairdo, but rather, how it attaches to the head that feels toyish, and you can't change that. Customizers use glues and other means of attaching hair to achieve the best look they can, but mass production needs the easiest possible method to reproduce thousands of times, and custom methods aren't good for that, lots of time goes into customs using hair and such.

 

[JosephCPR]

I find, it's not so much styling the overall hairdo, but rather, how it attaches to the head that feels toyish, and you can't change that. Customizers use glues and other means of attaching hair to achieve the best look they can, but mass production needs the easiest possible method to reproduce thousands of times, and custom methods aren't good for that, lots of time goes into customs using hair and such.

-I cannot argue against that. That is certainly the worst part about HT rooted hair, but as aI said, with a little styling...it is hardly noticeable.

-Who knows, they might be working on something already. At the rate these figures have been improved over the years, I wouldn't be shocked if the next step was the development of new methods to achieve natural looking rooted hair.

 

[MaulFan]

Aside from articulation benefits, I really don't see a need for rooted hair. Having photographed plenty of figures, I find that HT's best sculpted hair has little effect on the realism of the piece. If they find some way to do faux hair and look real, great, but I personally see no need to push to find a way.

 

[JosephCPR]

It is obviously a question of taste and preferences, of course. I, for example, would love if they were able to mass produce something as natural looking as this

 

[MaulFan]

That's actually a good example of where I don't like it. To me, it looks bad to have real hair on top of his head, but sculpted on his face. The different materials react differently to light and all, the hair feels like it doesn't belong with the rest of the head. Like I said, if they can find a way to do it realistically, cool, but I'm so impressed by what they can do with sculpting hair these days, I'm not feeling a demand to get there.

 

[JosephCPR]

You don't like it there? I think it looks amazing!. If your only complaint is, in this example, the sculpted goatee, I know there are lots of materials that could be used as facial hair. I don't think it would be too difficult for HT TBH. Damn, even Mattel is using some of them to get the shaved head effect on some of their Ken dolls!

Obviously, we can agree there isn't a real/huge need for it, because HT figures are awesome just the way they are right now. But I truly believe the development of rooted hair will be a future step to get more realistic figures. NO ONE WILL BE ABLE TO STOP IT! Just my opinion of course

 

[Wor-Gar]

That's actually a good example of where I don't like it. To me, it looks bad to have real hair on top of his head, but sculpted on his face.

I have to agree in the negatory. I think that looks pretty damn good and raises the level of authenticity.

Mixing real hair and sculpted hair is as odd as mixing plastic beads and a real metal sword or real cloth and molded plastic buttons or a realistic 1/6th scale weave undone by real-world stitching lines. An improvement is an improvement.

 

[MaulFan]

I have to agree in the negatory. I think that looks pretty damn good and raises the level of authenticity.

Mixing real hair and sculpted hair is as odd as mixing plastic beads and a real metal sword or real cloth and molded plastic buttons or a realistic 1/6th scale weave undone by real-world stitching lines. An improvement is an improvement.

I just don't see it as a good thing. I look at that Stark head and I actually want to see it with sculpted hair, something about it just doesn't work for me.

Now, if that Sparrow didn't have those ugly fraying hairs, I'd be totally sold on that work, I look at that head and it all works to me.

 

[Wor-Gar]

I think it's inevitable that real hair 'will find a way'.

And it will work in some cases and not in others, much like the PERS gag.

The voice box thing is also something that would be great IF you can get good clean lines from the movie without the soundtrack cutting in or something else. I often find those things work best when its a line from an otherwise silent scene. Be odd to hear "Savvy" taken from COTBP with all the bar atmosphere in the background.

 

[MaulFan]

Or worse yet, not even the original actor's voice. I had a 12" NECA Jack and have a Hallmark Jack with voice chips and they're just random actors. Sideshow was the same with their talking Scarface. It sucked. Best I've ever seen was the 14" Hasbro Vader with James Earl Jones and Sebastian Shaw in beautiful clarity, no music, straight from movie lines.

 

[JosephCPR]

You see? Voice boxes are not something I feel very interested in. I find it quite a useless feature tbh, because not only do they increase the price of the figure (electronics, etc), but also, they are always doomed to fail at one point or another. It is just inevitable.

I could settle if they just could work something out to avoid rubber bodies rotting. THAT is actually the main problem I find in action figures today. The material (rubber) they are using for their costumes, bodies, etc I guess this sounds familiar to you already?

 

[sixth_sith]

Real hair is the bomb...

but ONLY if it's not doll hair. Let's face it... barbies and crap like that have had real hair forever, and if I'm not mistaken, part of the definition of action figure is sculpted hair... it's what set's them apart.

So as long as it looks real (yet to be seen - scarlet was doll hair), its all good. The bobby c joker and I've also seen a Beckem, both of those are outstanding and the level we would need to "cross over"

 

[Wor-Gar]

Or worse yet, not even the original actor's voice. I had a 12" NECA Jack and have a Hallmark Jack with voice chips and they're just random actors. Sideshow was the same with their talking Scarface. It sucked. Best I've ever seen was the 14" Hasbro Vader with James Earl Jones and Sebastian Shaw in beautiful clarity, no music, straight from movie lines.

There was a talking Darth Maul too that wasn't the actor. Lame-O!

That Vader rocks, with the breathing and lightsaber power up and down! Hurricane put that chip in my Hurc Vader. Works awesome!

 

[MaulFan]

You see? Voice boxes are not something I feel very interested in. I find it quite a useless feature tbh, because not only do they increase the price of the figure (electronics, etc), but also, they are always doomed to fail at one point or another. It is just inevitable.

I could settle if they just could work something out to avoid rubber bodies rotting. THAT is actually the main problem I find in action figures today. The material (rubber) they are using for their costumes, bodies, etc I guess this sounds familiar to you already?

I don't care about voice chips either, child toy gimmick to me, but, if you're going to do it, at least do it right.

 

[JacktheRipper]

In general I don't like rooted hair. There have been a couple of customs I've seen that look rather good .ie Joker. That Stark figure posted a couple of pages back isn't one that looks good to me. Most rooted hair figures look like those guys that go get hair implants. You keep looking at their hair because something isn't quite right.

 

[Batty]

I just got another Flexpay delay email.

 

[ShortRound]

I just got another Flexpay delay email.

Delayed for when?

 

[Darth Madden]

I just got another Flexpay delay email.

Delayed for when?

Me too. Only until Dec 5th but thats still 2 weeks later than the last email.