Official NECA Terminator Thread

[P.]

they really shouldn't have applied David Bowie lipstick to terminator figures, no matter how talented he was.

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i completely agree about the sculpted neck and provided examples of worst cases of separate necks. old HT terminator necks were very cool looking and let me accept the seam well enough, but new ones don't even look like necks, they look like... well, to avoid censorship i'll say "like fingers".

 

[Caped Baldy]

Kind of wish they threw in a shotgun as an extra - it would make having that along with the sunglasses a little more screen accurate.

 

[a-dev]

Thanks for all that! I read it all. For the price I definitely love what I see.

Being able to use Enterbay stuff with it increases its value to me. As we've said, NECA could have provided more - a selection of different hands at least and his shotgun. But what's there is good. I'd feel no shame in using the NECA minigun and bag. The M79 could be better as they didn't hollow out the barrel. The handgun is decent.

Quick put those sunglasses back on him lol.

EB minigun was undersized to begin with, no?

EB sunglasses definately nicer than NECA’s that’s for certain.

Great pose although it might be just a tad bit too high.

We'll consult P. on the pose.

As far as the Enterbay minigun being undersized - I dunno - maybe for the Enterbay figure itself but being that this figure is a little bit smaller it might just be as it should?

they really shouldn't have applied David Bowie lipstick to terminator figures, no matter how talented he was.

''Not so bad in person''....or when you get used to it

Kind of wish they threw in a shotgun as an extra - it would make having that along with the sunglasses a little more screen accurate.

That is a bummer. Because there's only 2 options out there that I can think of - Enterbay and that Diamond Select abomination of a figure. And part-outs from those are extremely rare.

 

[jye4ever]

You were right about the bandolier it does look very nicely done.

 

[DiFabio]

I actually think the head is pretty good without the sunglasses. His eyes and stare look pretty good, I expected derpyness. I'm surprised the paint apps are so clean. Not bad for a low end figure.

 

[jye4ever]

The paint yes I agree looks clean with decent skin shading but the shape and proportions look better with sunglasses on.

 

[a-dev]

You were right about the bandolier it does look very nicely done.

Yup. Looks even nicer in person. They actually caused a glare effect in my ****ty old camera in the pics I posted in the Enterbay thread.

I actually think the head is pretty good without the sunglasses. His eyes and stare look pretty good, I expected derpiness. I'm surprised the paint apps are so clean. Not bad for a low end figure.

Yeah, it's low-end but at least the eyes don't look wonky. Dutch's eyes looked wonky, that's why I could never bring myself to buy him. With sunglasses he looks great and that's why I just have to defy my previous proclamations about not doubling up on 1:4 scale figures and I have to set up a Galleria version. I'll have NECA Galleria, Enterbay Endo-arm scene, NECA Cyberdyne, Enterbay full battle-damage. I won't go further than that unless someone makes a semi-BD Steel Mill and then that would definitely be the last...for T2. Sure wouldn't mind if someone made 1:4 T1 figures. A Tech Noir would be just dandy.

 

[a-dev]

i completely agree about the sculpted neck and provided examples of worst cases of separate necks. old HT terminator necks were very cool looking and let me accept the seam well enough, but new ones don't even look like necks, they look like... well, to avoid censorship i'll say "like fingers".

DX10 neck I've described as a barrel with a head plopped on top. The angle is all wrong, really stiff, no muscle detail, hardly even any skin detail. Just totally unnatural looking - goes against what high-end should be IMO - its sad that a NECA figure looks more realistic in this area.

 

[P.]

Great pose although it might be just a tad bit too high.

We'll consult P. on the pose.

it's the direction of the gun on a-dev's photo, where he had to put it straight forward due to no proper diorama for a low aiming figure.

if it's directed lower, the hands will go lower as well and match the movie.
but i think that shoulders & elbows joints limitations won't allow it to look exactly like the movie. HT figure needed soft torso and double-jointed elbows to almost achieve that.

DX10 neck I've described as a barrel with a head plopped on top.

that's exactly how i described it, too, but by using only one word for "a barrel with a head on it".
but then i got an infraction for using cyrillic letters in place of latin ones to bypass the language filter, so ok, a... barrel with a head

 

[a-dev]

Oh....well actually maybe I could afford to aim it lower. I was thinking Jye meant it was too high from the back.

 

[P.]

Oh....well actually maybe I could afford to aim it lower.

i don't have access to any resources now, but you should check the scene where he kicks the table out of the window. it looked like the minigun was straight and high in that scene, if memory serves me right, so you can say it's that scene

update: here you go!

yep memory still serves me. plus it was a good reason to rewatch one of the best scenes in the movie, heavily resembling the police station attack from T1 by the machine's stone face and movement like the ground HK tower.

 

[a-dev]

We're all serious post-editors in this thread. Going back through it I found a bunch of stuff I didn't read on the first go 'round.

Yeah I ended up raising the gun again. It can be taken as from the moments before he starts actually shooting.

Seems really lucky he doesn't kill anyone in that scene - shrapnel, ricochets etc

I actually think the head is pretty good without the sunglasses. His eyes and stare look pretty good, I expected derpyness. I'm surprised the paint apps are so clean. Not bad for a low end figure.

The paint yes I agree looks clean with decent skin shading but the shape and proportions look better with sunglasses on.

I'm wondering if Maulfan was right when he said the face is too long. Back in the day when MMS117 and this sculpt were both new I used to criticise the former for being too short and squashed (which obviously I still do) but maybe the NECA sculpt is too far the other way and could stand to be shorter between the eyes and the tip of the nose....or maybe making the eyes bigger but still squinted would have the same effect. Might play around with it in photoshop....ok Windows paint.

 

[snoop101]

Awesome a-Dev! Love how he looks with the plasma rifle and shotgun. I'll definitely be going to set him up that way to represent the battle across time look. Sad to think that's closing here shortly.

 

[MaulFan]

I'm wondering if Maulfan was right when he said the face is too long. Back in the day when MMS117 and this sculpt were both new I used to criticise the former for being too short and squashed (which obviously I still do) but maybe the NECA sculpt is too far the other way and could stand to be shorter between the eyes and the tip of the nose....or maybe making the eyes bigger but still squinted would have the same effect. Might play around with it in photoshop....ok Windows paint.

It seems most apparent the more you look from the side. Front on and low angles not so bad, but when you look here and compare real Arnold to the sculpt, the length of his jawline from his ears to his chin looks much longer than it should be. It's like from the eyes up it's perfect, from the eyes down is stretched down a bit too much.

You can even spot it in the 7" but on display at that scale you hardly notice, it's only an issue in blown up photos.

For better or worse, even MMS117 got the overall jawline shape more accurate.

Even Enterbay.

 

[a-dev]

Jaw jutting forward and down too much? I used to put that down to them going very scene specific with the expression but when they don't change the sculpt at all you're forced to admit that ''OK they think its a 'fits all' sculpt''.

The BD Enterbay is hard to fault. One of the things I like most about the NECA sculpt is the hair and skull-shape and the BD Enterbay pretty much matches it on those counts. However I find it hard to give the clean EB sculpt much credit these days to be honest. You mention the jawline being better but even if it doesn't protrude excessively it still doesn't resemble Arnie's jawline much to my eyes - it lacks that 'pouch' I think you referred to years ago and that really makes all the difference. The NECA sculpt does have it. And IMO only NECA themselves managed to do an Arnie figure with a ball-joint head that still retained Arnie's distinctive neck and jawline with their Dutch figures. Seeing a ball-joint separation at the neck in high-end 1:4 scale is all kinds of ugly to me. I really think Enterbay should have gone with sculpted necks like NECA did.

It goes to show there is still no single sculpt that nails everything. There's quality aspects in most of them but no one has managed to combine them all.

 

[MaulFan]

Arnold’s neck and jawline, particularly in T2, are so unique that it’s impossible to do true justice without the head and neck being one piece. If Enterbay made the neck more accurate with a posable head, you’d have some very obvious gaps where head and neck don’t meet. I think the BD figure does a good balance of having the unique shape under his jaw that is trademark, while filling out the neck enough to hide the joint as much as possible, and the face is such a thing of glory I don’t even notice the neck when he’s on display.

NECA’s sculpt is great for a 10 year old sculpt for a $20 figure, but as we often say, still using it 10 years later without even slight touch up is either arrogance thinking it’s perfect or insult not caring.

I still think that EB BD T-800, even if not perfect, has come closest to feeling like Arnold lept off the screen and onto a shelf.

Under the right circumstances, I think the NECA 1/4 will look just fine on display, the only flaw I see to cause hesitation in getting it based on quality is the face and lighting, pose and viewing angle can compensate that.

 

[jye4ever]

All I see is the wicked witch of the west when I look at NECA.

 

[snoop101]

 

[MaulFan]

All I see is the wicked witch of the west when I look at NECA.

I'm more reminded of this.

 

[jye4ever]

Ok that works better than my witch lol