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Re: NECA T2 in store pics
My thoughts on Man or Machine:
Again, faced with the sheer awesomeness of finally having such cool and faithful-to-the-film T2 figures my previous niggles seem even nigglier. My issues with it based on pics were thus - paint apps on the face looked ''Hasbroish'' I do believe I said. I also lamented the simplification of the endo arm sculpt and the excess of painted blood
....well, I think I got lucky with my 2 MoM figures. The paint is fine on both. Maybe it is the case that figures of this scale just don't photograph well. Maybe it had been so long since I eagerly anticipated and bought a 7" figure that I forgot what kind of reduction in quality during mass production to expect, and ultimately just where the bar really is at for paint on figures this size. It definitely is higher than Hasbro and no worse than McFarlane. Any errors are minute. If I were to say I still had a problem it might be the choice of colour for the lips..I'm in artificial light right now so i'm not seeing what I thought I saw during the day, I thought the colour stood out too much. Aaannd maybe theres the barest excess of eyeliner on the upper eyelids. I could be wrong about that though, perhaps if this eyeliner wasn't there his eyes would disappear. Nevertheless, the sculpt has not been ruined. I rejoice.
On to the sculpt niggles - not something I'm bothered about but I think theres too many ''concentration'' lines around MoM's mouth/chin area. It kind of looks like the face Arnie would make with his lips while firing a gun which is fine for the Pescadero figure but in this case he's not supposed to be firing a gun. I dunno, i think his face should be a tiny bit more neutral than it appears to be. I will fully accept the label of ''anal'' on this one and it by no means ruins the figure for me. The last niggle I have is the endo arm. The sculpt of it is good, just not as good as the prototype shown on the box-insert. The insert clearly shows sculpted muscle entrails still attached to the metal - these are absent and in their place is just a heck of a lot of blood, so much that it almost completely drowns out the silver of the 'metal' arm. And thats not good, nor film accurate. Complaining done.
This figure uses the same legs and torso as the Pescadero and why shouldn't it, its perfect. The T-shirt and belt are now appropriately coloured for the second half of the film. Unique to the figure are those sleeveless muscle arms which are beautifully done. I have much man-love for those. They've given him more articulation than he probably even needed for the scene he represents and its hidden very well. Any other praise I have for the figure would be repeating myself from my earlier post about the Pescadero so if it seems like I did more complaining about MoM than giving it its deserved applause all the positives I said for the pescadero figure apply here.
I shall give him 9/10, losing out only because of the disappointment that the prototypes well detailed and silver endo arm didn't make it through production as well as I would have hoped.
My final positive note - I've always wanted an Arnie figure from this particular scene in T2, now I have a pretty damn good one.
My thoughts on Man or Machine:
Again, faced with the sheer awesomeness of finally having such cool and faithful-to-the-film T2 figures my previous niggles seem even nigglier. My issues with it based on pics were thus - paint apps on the face looked ''Hasbroish'' I do believe I said. I also lamented the simplification of the endo arm sculpt and the excess of painted blood
....well, I think I got lucky with my 2 MoM figures. The paint is fine on both. Maybe it is the case that figures of this scale just don't photograph well. Maybe it had been so long since I eagerly anticipated and bought a 7" figure that I forgot what kind of reduction in quality during mass production to expect, and ultimately just where the bar really is at for paint on figures this size. It definitely is higher than Hasbro and no worse than McFarlane. Any errors are minute. If I were to say I still had a problem it might be the choice of colour for the lips..I'm in artificial light right now so i'm not seeing what I thought I saw during the day, I thought the colour stood out too much. Aaannd maybe theres the barest excess of eyeliner on the upper eyelids. I could be wrong about that though, perhaps if this eyeliner wasn't there his eyes would disappear. Nevertheless, the sculpt has not been ruined. I rejoice.
On to the sculpt niggles - not something I'm bothered about but I think theres too many ''concentration'' lines around MoM's mouth/chin area. It kind of looks like the face Arnie would make with his lips while firing a gun which is fine for the Pescadero figure but in this case he's not supposed to be firing a gun. I dunno, i think his face should be a tiny bit more neutral than it appears to be. I will fully accept the label of ''anal'' on this one and it by no means ruins the figure for me. The last niggle I have is the endo arm. The sculpt of it is good, just not as good as the prototype shown on the box-insert. The insert clearly shows sculpted muscle entrails still attached to the metal - these are absent and in their place is just a heck of a lot of blood, so much that it almost completely drowns out the silver of the 'metal' arm. And thats not good, nor film accurate. Complaining done.
This figure uses the same legs and torso as the Pescadero and why shouldn't it, its perfect. The T-shirt and belt are now appropriately coloured for the second half of the film. Unique to the figure are those sleeveless muscle arms which are beautifully done. I have much man-love for those. They've given him more articulation than he probably even needed for the scene he represents and its hidden very well. Any other praise I have for the figure would be repeating myself from my earlier post about the Pescadero so if it seems like I did more complaining about MoM than giving it its deserved applause all the positives I said for the pescadero figure apply here.
I shall give him 9/10, losing out only because of the disappointment that the prototypes well detailed and silver endo arm didn't make it through production as well as I would have hoped.
My final positive note - I've always wanted an Arnie figure from this particular scene in T2, now I have a pretty damn good one.
Re: NECA T2 in store pics
...and endoskeleton:
this is where NECA fall down. I dunno, maybe I'm just getting bored of all the endoskeleton figures - theres been so many now that the novelty is gone - whereas it was great to get T-800 Arnie figures with the likeness intact at last - but the endos are just old news.
I like the paint, its as shiny as it could probably be without being actual chrome. I also like the sculpt from the neck down. Its got some features that McFarlane's MMV didn't have - like movable shoulder blades - and overall its more accurate in proportions and detail. McFarlane's one had that really long waist section and the chest piece was shaped wrong, not to mention the complete and utter lack of a neck. Actually on that last point, NECA's really doesn't have much of a neck either. Certainly if I were to envision a flesh covering on this figure his head would be squashed into his torso. I just don't remember the endos in the films being like this, yet this is at least 2 companies who've portrayed them this way. Wierd.
Articulation is another funny area. What it beats McFarlane at it loses at others. The legs can be splayed and can move slighly backwards but they can't step forward at all. The big thick pistons in the thighs prevent it. McFarlanes meanwhile could move forwards and slightly backwards but not side to side. NECA's figure also lacks the turning motions of the lower arms and legs - these are fixed with only the hands and feet capable of movement. Conversely the hands and feet of the McFarlane endo were fixed with no movement. But I presume all this was already known to anyone with the Cult Classics Endoskeleton. I never found that one and so missed out on that nice base which is sadly absent in this package. So the articulation is disappointing, the one iconic T2 pose from the skull crushing endo in the film can't really be replicated to a satisfying degree on either this or the McFarlane one. I don't really care though because I have the Hot Toys ones for that!
Where this NECA endo really boggles the mind though is that headsculpt. It seems to me they were going for the ''evil'' stare of the endoskull in the T2 opening credits but it fails miserably. The major reason for this is that furrowed brow - he looks like hes frowning. The eye sockets are sculpted as though they function like muscle, capable of movement when of course it should be completely solid, no moving parts there at all. It should have a more ''neutral'' straight-across eyesocket rim with the perceived ''evil'' look entirely dependant on the upturned eyes. As we have it it looks ridiculous and not like any T-800 endo face we ever saw in the films.
I'd give it a 6/10 at most. I consider it background diorama stuff, custom fodder, and/or a good neutral-posed 'assembly line' endoskeleton.
...and endoskeleton:
this is where NECA fall down. I dunno, maybe I'm just getting bored of all the endoskeleton figures - theres been so many now that the novelty is gone - whereas it was great to get T-800 Arnie figures with the likeness intact at last - but the endos are just old news.
I like the paint, its as shiny as it could probably be without being actual chrome. I also like the sculpt from the neck down. Its got some features that McFarlane's MMV didn't have - like movable shoulder blades - and overall its more accurate in proportions and detail. McFarlane's one had that really long waist section and the chest piece was shaped wrong, not to mention the complete and utter lack of a neck. Actually on that last point, NECA's really doesn't have much of a neck either. Certainly if I were to envision a flesh covering on this figure his head would be squashed into his torso. I just don't remember the endos in the films being like this, yet this is at least 2 companies who've portrayed them this way. Wierd.
Articulation is another funny area. What it beats McFarlane at it loses at others. The legs can be splayed and can move slighly backwards but they can't step forward at all. The big thick pistons in the thighs prevent it. McFarlanes meanwhile could move forwards and slightly backwards but not side to side. NECA's figure also lacks the turning motions of the lower arms and legs - these are fixed with only the hands and feet capable of movement. Conversely the hands and feet of the McFarlane endo were fixed with no movement. But I presume all this was already known to anyone with the Cult Classics Endoskeleton. I never found that one and so missed out on that nice base which is sadly absent in this package. So the articulation is disappointing, the one iconic T2 pose from the skull crushing endo in the film can't really be replicated to a satisfying degree on either this or the McFarlane one. I don't really care though because I have the Hot Toys ones for that!
Where this NECA endo really boggles the mind though is that headsculpt. It seems to me they were going for the ''evil'' stare of the endoskull in the T2 opening credits but it fails miserably. The major reason for this is that furrowed brow - he looks like hes frowning. The eye sockets are sculpted as though they function like muscle, capable of movement when of course it should be completely solid, no moving parts there at all. It should have a more ''neutral'' straight-across eyesocket rim with the perceived ''evil'' look entirely dependant on the upturned eyes. As we have it it looks ridiculous and not like any T-800 endo face we ever saw in the films.
I'd give it a 6/10 at most. I consider it background diorama stuff, custom fodder, and/or a good neutral-posed 'assembly line' endoskeleton.
Re: NECA T2 in store pics
That we don't know. I have a feeling it'll be exactly the same and that its purpose will just be as filler - another chance to build an endo army. Maybe series 2 will have a different colour theme in the packaging (like Steel mill colours) and the endoskeleton will simply be rereleased in that packaging too like what Hasbro does all the time.
That we don't know. I have a feeling it'll be exactly the same and that its purpose will just be as filler - another chance to build an endo army. Maybe series 2 will have a different colour theme in the packaging (like Steel mill colours) and the endoskeleton will simply be rereleased in that packaging too like what Hasbro does all the time.
Re: NECA T2 in store pics
Good job on this and it really isn't good the way China made the eye sockets on this one. They messed the jaw up too. Not good.
Good job on this and it really isn't good the way China made the eye sockets on this one. They messed the jaw up too. Not good.
Re: NECA T2 in store pics
Thanks for these Arnie figures man. Been wanting figures like this since the Kenner days with their strange refusal to make anything that bore any resemblance to the film characters!
Also something I forgot to mention in my reviews is I'm pleased with the cross compatability - the heads are easily swappable and the scale&sculpting mean you can also transfer them onto the MM4 McFarlane figure with the aid of a bit of bluetack and they look perfectly fine. If you had any hand in making these things possible well done and thanks.
Thanks for these Arnie figures man. Been wanting figures like this since the Kenner days with their strange refusal to make anything that bore any resemblance to the film characters!
Also something I forgot to mention in my reviews is I'm pleased with the cross compatability - the heads are easily swappable and the scale&sculpting mean you can also transfer them onto the MM4 McFarlane figure with the aid of a bit of bluetack and they look perfectly fine. If you had any hand in making these things possible well done and thanks.
Re: NECA T2 in store pics
Has anywhere other than CSC given indication about the 12" Final Battle figure does anyone know? Really hoping that one comes to pass.
Also I'm thinking of adding to my tally of 2 pescaderos/2 MoMs - enjoying these figures so much I'm worried about breaking them with all the reposing and head switching. So I might just buy a couple of more to represent particular poses&head/body combos on a permanent basis.
Has anywhere other than CSC given indication about the 12" Final Battle figure does anyone know? Really hoping that one comes to pass.
Also I'm thinking of adding to my tally of 2 pescaderos/2 MoMs - enjoying these figures so much I'm worried about breaking them with all the reposing and head switching. So I might just buy a couple of more to represent particular poses&head/body combos on a permanent basis.
Re: NECA T2 in store pics
I'd buy 12"ers of each of the figures. The Man or Machine figure would benefit from a larger scale for that endo arm.
I'd buy 12"ers of each of the figures. The Man or Machine figure would benefit from a larger scale for that endo arm.
Re: NECA T2 in store pics
I think we drive Tankman away with all our questions most of which he's probably not allowed to answer.
But if he happens to pop back into the thread heres one I don't think there'd be a problem with -
Is the Cyberdyne assault figure able to be stripped down to the basic figure with no accessories or is, for example, the grenade bandolier part of the sculpt? And does he have the bag to carry the ammo for the mini-gun?
I think we drive Tankman away with all our questions most of which he's probably not allowed to answer.
But if he happens to pop back into the thread heres one I don't think there'd be a problem with -
Is the Cyberdyne assault figure able to be stripped down to the basic figure with no accessories or is, for example, the grenade bandolier part of the sculpt? And does he have the bag to carry the ammo for the mini-gun?
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Re: NECA T2 in store pics
Just ordered not one, not two but THREE Pescadero escape figures
Also bought an Alex Mercer (from Prototype) because he's just badass and I really want to start a videogame collection.
Also waiting for Minigun Arnie and 12'' Arnie! Can't have too many Arnies right
Just ordered not one, not two but THREE Pescadero escape figures
Also bought an Alex Mercer (from Prototype) because he's just badass and I really want to start a videogame collection.Also waiting for Minigun Arnie and 12'' Arnie! Can't have too many Arnies right
Re: NECA T2 in store pics
The Pescadero Escape figure is one of the best I've seen in the hobby, beyond the sun glass rims, but I have easily touched them up.
It's really a perfect representation and ideal model for all movie based action figures, great stance, presence, bold clean paint job. I cannot wait to see the second line.
It's a shame I've yet to find an endo in stores yet with a head that's decent.
The Pescadero Escape figure is one of the best I've seen in the hobby, beyond the sun glass rims, but I have easily touched them up.
It's really a perfect representation and ideal model for all movie based action figures, great stance, presence, bold clean paint job. I cannot wait to see the second line.
It's a shame I've yet to find an endo in stores yet with a head that's decent.
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