Official NECA Terminator Thread

[Johnny Utah]

Re: NECA Terminator 2 figures

Kyle,can you please post any pics of these heads in progress,as well as the fully damaged headsculpt when you have it painted?

Also,will the Cyberdyne T-800 have the ammo bag with the figure?

 

[a-dev]

Re: NECA Terminator 2 figures

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Well ok then...but still, 3 T-1000s is more then enough.

Not for me. 4 at least. With Wolf it was all just paint redos, masked/unmasked, or the same figure moulded in clear plastic. The T-1000 demands more variety. At least 2 distinct outfits that people would like to see in undamaged form plus all that unique battle damage - from shotgun hits to split open heads, donut heads to entire torso cut almost in half. All this stuff demands new pieces of sculpting unlike Wolf which, far as I could tell as far as sculpting went, just had mask or no mask. The T-1000 would take at least 4 figures to achieve near to all the possibilities from the film - and using a bit of technical savy to make them cross compatible - torsos removeable from legs, swappable arms etc.

 

[CelticPredator]

Re: NECA Terminator 2 figures

I respectivly disagree. If you over saturate the market...things go bad.

 

[Warrior Alien]

Re: NECA Terminator 2 figures

Pretty cool...

"Now listen to me very carefully..."

 

[MaulFan]

Re: NECA Terminator 2 figures

I respectivly disagree. If you over saturate the market...things go bad.

Depends on a number of factors though.

Quality of the piece
How different it is from the others
What the price is

If there's enough of a T2 fanbase willing to buy the NECA line, I think you can do a number of representations of the characters. NECA's basically the highest end collectible small scale figure you can get, that I've seen, in that statuesque kind of figure, not really poseable. T2, while having a lot out there, doesn't have a great deal of quality replications like the NECA lines shaping up. At their prices, nicely done, significantly different T-1000s will likely sell, even at 4 or 5 of them. It just depends on the committment of the collectors, are the people who'll buy these of the mindset of wanting every representation or do they just want a favorite 1 or 2. If they're in for variants, any number should sell.

 

[Shai]

Re: NECA Terminator 2 figures

dIDNT kNOW THAT THE tANKMAN WAS A MEMBER HERE...

 

[a-dev]

Re: NECA Terminator 2 figures

I respectivly disagree. If you over saturate the market...things go bad.

I grant you I'm speaking with major bias - I'm a huge Terminator fan and I'd buy anything.

The thing is if they're just going to make 2 figures you'll just have people like me still waiting for more T2 figures in 10 years time from the next company that takes up the license, hoping against hope that the next company makes a version of the T-1000 that the previous 2 companies didn't make. I'd rather have them all now...at last.

 

[Matt S]

Re: NECA Terminator 2 figures

Well, this line will get my full support! Neca is a great company. Now, I hate it when they go nuts and reuse the same body parts over and over, as they are doing on the GOW line; now, I understand the reason: with this economy it is necessary to cut costs, but its a fine line....

So far, they do a pretty good job with that, IMO. It gets a bit frustrating when you want a cool new alien and you get the 14th variant of Marcus... And if not for NECA, we would not have gotten lots of great stuff.

Whatever did happen to the Mcfarlane compay? I haven't seen anything cool from them for years....

 

[MaulFan]

Re: NECA Terminator 2 figures

That's what hurt the AVPR line from NECA, way too many hardly different variants of Wolf. Nice figures, but a bit of a turn off when you have to buy a number of nearly identical figures just to get certain looks and weapons. I wouldn't mind buying 4 figures for all the looks if each one was a new pose and all.

 

[a-dev]

Re: NECA Terminator 2 figures

It just depends on the committment of the collectors, are the people who'll buy these of the mindset of wanting every representation or do they just want a favorite 1 or 2. If they're in for variants, any number should sell.

I think a license as popular and iconic as T2 will definitely do well for NECA. For every person who only wants one or two favourites there'll be someone else like me whose obsessive enough to buy multiples of each, either for customs/part swaps or just because.

 

[MaulFan]

Re: NECA Terminator 2 figures

I'm pretty much game for almost every figure, unless the pose or something just isn't my cup of tea, so far all 4 Arnie's have won me over. I love T2, one of my favorite movies and my absolute favorite Terminator movie, so to have such nice representations and so affordable and easy on space is exciting.

 

[CelticPredator]

Re: NECA Terminator 2 figures

But you're in the extreme minority. Which is why a lot of figures dont sell. NECA is led to believe that "X will sell" because the fans demand it, when in actuallity, the "fans" are just a handful of people on a message board, and the figures dont sell. Its happened before. And I dont want it to happen again.

Arnold will sell...but the T-1000? I dont know. Maybe one classic version, but most people dont care about the other characters.

 

[MaulFan]

Re: NECA Terminator 2 figures

The only times I've seen NECA struggles on the pegs has been POTC where they made some characters that who'd really care about, and they weren't that good looking anyway, and the AVPR stuff with all the rehashes. Any of their fresh stuff has seemed to do just fine. As long as they treat T-1000 like T-800 with full blown variants, I think it'd do fine. I'm glad NECA bases choices off the fans, at least we get what we want, even if there's excess because there's only so many of us.

 

[Sachiel]

Re: NECA Terminator 2 figures

That's what hurt the AVPR line from NECA, way too many hardly different variants of Wolf. Nice figures, but a bit of a turn off when you have to buy a number of nearly identical figures just to get certain looks and weapons. I wouldn't mind buying 4 figures for all the looks if each one was a new pose and all.

Even though the Wolf had some nice articulation he was just too limited by the way he was sculpted. He need a bit more articulation and a more neutral pose.

The bloodied versions were going to far. It was nice they had the facehugger and chestburster, but they probably should have put them with a re-release or bloodied Alien warrior.

But I have no idea why they decided on what they did. Besides that the Predator was more expensive to make.

 

[CelticPredator]

Re: NECA Terminator 2 figures

The only times I've seen NECA struggles on the pegs has been POTC where they made some characters that who'd really care about, and they weren't that good looking anyway, and the AVPR stuff with all the rehashes. Any of their fresh stuff has seemed to do just fine. As long as they treat T-1000 like T-800 with full blown variants, I think it'd do fine. I'm glad NECA bases choices off the fans, at least we get what we want, even if there's excess because there's only so many of us.

Ever heard of the Candyman crisis?

The people on the Spawn.com boards requested that every time a new MM series was coming out...and they made it. And he became the biggest pegwamer known to man.

Fans are not always right....unfortantly. I just dont want to see anything bad happen to a company because of the fans.

See SOTA for a better example.

 

[Platty]

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I know i'll be definitely be getting two of the arnie figs, sunglasses and shotgun, and mini gun.

Maybe the battle damaged one. The one with no jacket and half a hand missing doesn't really do much for me...doubt I will get that one.

 

[a-dev]

Re: NECA Terminator 2 figures

But you're in the extreme minority. Which is why a lot of figures dont sell. NECA is led to believe that "X will sell" because the fans demand it, when in actuallity, the "fans" are just a handful of people on a message board, and the figures dont sell. Its happened before. And I dont want it to happen again.

Arnold will sell...but the T-1000? I dont know. Maybe one classic version, but most people dont care about the other characters.

Terminator is a big license. Its not a passing fad like so many other licenses - theres a current tv show, a new film in the summer and 2 films that are regarded by many to be classic. If action figures based on terminator can't sell then no other line should dare to be optimistic. If any license can capture interest from people outside of the norm who buy action figures its a highly recogniseable license such as Terminator.

I agree with Maulfan (predictably) - make them unique enough and 4 different T-1000s could sell in equal amounts - and there is a lot of scope for uniqueness with that character.

Ever heard of the Candyman crisis?

The people on the Spawn.com boards requested that every time a new MM series was coming out...and they made it. And he became the biggest pegwamer known to man.

There - Candyman - that hardly crossed into the mainstream like the Terminator franchise did. Its a prime example to support your argument but I don't think Terminator and Candyman are in the same league in terms of popularity.

 

[MaulFan]

Re: NECA Terminator 2 figures

Again, it comes down to how you handle things. That Candyman example, I don't follow that so I know nothing about it, but some of the figures might have been poor choices for posing, etc. Even a damanded figure if not done well can fail.

Same with T-1000 and even T-800, it takes the right representation to sell it. I'm excited for all 4 T-800s because each one is a great representation of him from the respective moments. If one of them was a pose I didn't like or I wasn't happy about the execution, I wouldn't care. Fortunately, the sculpt work in the T2 line seems to be in the hands of uber fans and that should ensure the representations really speak to the characters and moments and capture them appropriately, as the first 4 figures have, and steps like making the fully beat up T-800 have multiple heads so you get more value out of the one figure is a great touch.

 

[Shai]

Re: NECA Terminator 2 figures

Does Neca has a fan forum?

 

[Sachiel]

Re: NECA Terminator 2 figures

I think NECA should start using colored plastic (the plastic they use is actually black (I found out the hard way) with painted details (like hair, eye brows, eyes, etc.) instead of having them fully painted. It is a VERY big part of why the figures come out looking like ^^^^ sometimes. The flesh has a very dry look to it and things get muddy.

The first Harry Potter series used color plastic and turned out great. Even though that was an accident (supposedly China was trying to rip them off) it worked reallywell.

Plus, wouldn't it be cheaper?